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[Ironhandjustice]

Thorein wrote...

I got my HK-51 droid!!

Woops! Wrong Forum!

The EC was just a very elaborate dream. The slideshow is a fallacy of Shepard's mind!

Statement: There is a 98% possibilities that OP is just trolling again.
Interpolation: The other 2% possibility is that OP wants a blaster ration or being killed on a very displeasant way. I think this is a wise wish, master!

(Of course, this is a joke regarding KOTOR)

[ElSuperGecko]

ghost9191 wrote...
wait wait wait . like this may have been said . i didn't read the whole thread. but aren't you ( as in the op ) talking about IT also?

i just mean you tell others to shut up about it . but you make a thread about it to do so ?

Yes, common sense is sorely lacking in the OP's post.

On many levels.

[Ieldra]

Yate wrote...

Scam_poo wrote...

Uh... no. Play the new endings again. Then tell me how it has been "confirmed" that the IT is, in fact, not a viable way to interpret the ending anymore.

uh maybe the fact that the final decision actually changes the freakin galaxy

and BW has had the chance to make IT come true with the EC and they didn't do it

grow up and quit living in denial because you didn't get your ULTIMATE PARAGON NO SACRIFICE ending

Oh, you're forgetting about the power of denial. The good outcomes are, of course, all a delusion in Shepard's mind.
/sarcasm

[Applepie_Svk]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Yate wrote...

Scam_poo wrote...

Uh... no. Play the new endings again. Then tell me how it has been "confirmed" that the IT is, in fact, not a viable way to interpret the ending anymore.

uh maybe the fact that the final decision actually changes the freakin galaxy

and BW has had the chance to make IT come true with the EC and they didn't do it

grow up and quit living in denial because you didn't get your ULTIMATE PARAGON NO SACRIFICE ending

Oh, you're forgetting about the power of denial. The good outcomes are, of course, all a delusion in Shepard's mind.
/sarcasm

I am not forgetting also about bad literal version full of nonsense, contradictions and fallacies... with such a mess only IT makes it, you know rational...

[ninjawannabe]

WARNING: this post contains small spoilers of the Leviathan DLC for those that haven't played it!
There's an easter egg in the Leviathan DLC when you return to Bryson's office around the 2nd or 3rd time and interact with the dinosaur skeleton, shepard and EDI have a small conversation (here) that is somewhat how the IT is to the ME universe in a metaphorical sense.  Imagine shepard as the IT fans and EDI as what the developers are likely thinking as far as implementing it in the story

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Chris Priestly has said several times that IT is a valid interpretation. Get over it.

[jtav]

It's fine as your headcanon. What's enraging is treating it as objective fact, saying the other endings are invalid and spinning the behavior of real world people (devs, etc) to justify it. If you want to argue the endings are a mess, I agree. The whole game is a mess. But IT offers no ending, nor will the devs be providing such.

[Little Princess Peach]

Yate wrote...

Scam_poo wrote...

Uh... no. Play the new endings again. Then tell me how it has been "confirmed" that the IT is, in fact, not a viable way to interpret the ending anymore.

uh maybe the fact that the final decision actually changes the freakin galaxy

and BW has had the chance to make IT come true with the EC and they didn't do it

grow up and quit living in denial because you didn't get your ULTIMATE PARAGON NO SACRIFICE ending

I hate the IT idea my self but you are being rather rude to the IT supporters, they have the right to pour in there hope into something other then what they see before them.
so agree to disagree and be nice

[BatmanTurian]

jtav wrote...

It's fine as your headcanon. What's enraging is treating it as objective fact, saying the other endings are invalid and spinning the behavior of real world people (devs, etc) to justify it. If you want to argue the endings are a mess, I agree. The whole game is a mess. But IT offers no ending, nor will the devs be providing such.

Our interpretation is as much fact as your interpretation. As the OP illustrates, the literal interpretation is just as often purported to be fact. Get over your victim mentality and grow a thicker skin.

[Sonashi]

What is this OP? Dictatorship? So now people can't even have their own interpretation of the endings? You're really selfish person. Even if IT is false, at least they have more imagination and passion than you.

BTW, people still talk about characters, endings so should I tell them to shut up? I mean really?
I'll tell you something. If mods move IT thread to the Fan Creations section then this theory will be dismissed.

Until then.....silence please.

[clennon8]

Either some variant of IT is true, or Hudson and Walters ruined their story with the most mind-numblingly, stupefyingly awful ending possible, while littering their game with red herrings that hint at IT. I guess some of us are more optimistic than others.

[ioannisdenton]

IT...sigh
The EC clearly denies that.
What you see is what you get?
How come there are people who headcanon IT?
What are the arguments this time??
The Halucination thread mark 3 is growing and growing.. i am amazed!

[Applepie_Svk]

ioannisdenton wrote...

The EC clearly denies that.

Am I the only one who remember the matriarch Benezia talking about something  like - He said that there will be always light...

[clennon8]

Man, you people are dense. EC does not disprove IT.

[BatmanTurian]

ioannisdenton wrote...

IT...sigh
The EC clearly denies that.
What you see is what you get?
How come there are people who headcanon IT?
What are the arguments this time??
The Halucination thread mark 3 is growing and growing.. i am amazed!

It's viable. Our interpretation is not hurting yours unless our case is actually making you doubt your interpretation and making you mad, in which case, this would just go on to show that you are not confident about your interpretation and would rather have silence than something that might be a differing opinion on an ending Bioware themselves said was open to interpretation in many ways..

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

The EC clearly is IT by denying it.

The reason IT keeps going and going is that it is the only thing that makes sense. Why? Look at the story. Look at the symbolism. Look at the ending. Listen to Starboy. Watch the EC. Now if you believe them you've been indoctrinated. If you listen and think critically you will see all the flaws and the logic falls apart and IT prevails. It's a conspiracy I tell you.

[UrgentArchengel]

...confirmed Garrus's scaly butt. When Bioware openly states that it is not true then it's confirmed. Besides, Leviathan added "1" new piece of evidence. They only did that because of IT. It's not that it's false, but rather they are intentionally being kept alive by Bioware.

Modifié par UrgentArchengel, 16 novembre 2012 - 06:57 .

[chidingewe8036]

Whateva.........the best financial decision for Bioware to make is to wake Shepard up, reunite his team one last time (his WHOLE team, some way some how), fight harbinger, make conventional victory possible with the last of the Leviathans' help, add a Harbinger epic boss battle, make a happy ending, role credits (suicide mission theme and m4 faunts), THE FREAKIN END.

sign, sealed, and delivered to Bioware

/end ALL threads

[jtav]

Applepie_Svk wrote...

ioannisdenton wrote...

The EC clearly denies that.

Am I the only one who remember the matriarch Benezia talking about something  like - He said that there will be always light...

"They always said there would be a light" The common belief of seeing light on death.

The EC epilogues do debunk IT. They're third-person omniscient, for lack of a better term, addressed to the player. So you would have to believe BW would spend precious resources in order to fool the fanbase at a time when they were desperately trying to recapture fan goodwill. And then release the real ending at a point when 90% of players no longer care.Simple bad writing is far more likeky given how terrible the writing in the game is generally.

[Humakt83]

chidingewe8036 wrote...

Whateva.........the best financial decision for Bioware to make is to wake Shepard up, reunite his team one last time (his WHOLE team, some way some how), fight harbinger, make conventional victory possible with the last of the Leviathans' help, add a Harbinger epic boss battle, make a happy ending, role credits (suicide mission theme and m4 faunts), THE FREAKIN END.

sign, sealed, and delivered to Bioware

/end ALL threads

No, no. There should be couple casualties, like Allers, robo dog, Kaidan/Jacob and Cortez (if he's still alive).

Modifié par Humakt83, 16 novembre 2012 - 07:05 .

[KingZayd]

jtav wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

ioannisdenton wrote...

The EC clearly denies that.

Am I the only one who remember the matriarch Benezia talking about something  like - He said that there will be always light...

"They always said there would be a light" The common belief of seeing light on death.

The EC epilogues do debunk IT. They're third-person omniscient, for lack of a better term, addressed to the player. So you would have to believe BW would spend precious resources in order to fool the fanbase at a time when they were desperately trying to recapture fan goodwill. And then release the real ending at a point when 90% of players no longer care.Simple bad writing is far more likeky given how terrible the writing in the game is generally.

There is no proof of that. For all we know, they all take place in Shepard's mind.

Modifié par KingZayd, 16 novembre 2012 - 07:05 .

[BatmanTurian]

jtav wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

ioannisdenton wrote...

The EC clearly denies that.

Am I the only one who remember the matriarch Benezia talking about something  like - He said that there will be always light...

"They always said there would be a light" The common belief of seeing light on death.

The EC epilogues do debunk IT. They're third-person omniscient, for lack of a better term, addressed to the player. So you would have to believe BW would spend precious resources in order to fool the fanbase at a time when they were desperately trying to recapture fan goodwill. And then release the real ending at a point when 90% of players no longer care.Simple bad writing is far more likeky given how terrible the writing in the game is generally.

That is an opinion and not a fact. You see how your side of the aisle likes to push their interpretation as fact? You're doing it right now.

[Seifer006]

Yate wrote...

sure it was a cool idea at the time, but it's been confirmed false and the endings were fixed

shut up about it now

good question. I think the IT thread is Mark'd 3 now.................wtf???<_<

*sigh*

watever

[BatmanTurian]

Seifer006 wrote...

Yate wrote...

sure it was a cool idea at the time, but it's been confirmed false and the endings were fixed

shut up about it now

good question. I think the IT thread is Mark'd 3 now.................wtf???<_<

*sigh*

watever

I know. Heaven forbid people discuss things you disagree with. It's awful. <_<

[Seifer006]

BatmanTurian wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

Yate wrote...

sure it was a cool idea at the time, but it's been confirmed false and the endings were fixed

shut up about it now

good question. I think the IT thread is Mark'd 3 now.................wtf???<_<

*sigh*

watever

I know. Heaven forbid people discuss things you disagree with. It's awful. <_<

right