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My experience playing Gold with two N7/]10,000+ players, Revisited


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Back Story

   Yesterday I was PUG-ing and landed in a Gold match in progress. I was trying out a drell adept build that I used only once before in a silver match, which I placed number one score on the board with very little difficulty. I'm fairly new to Gold my fourth and fifth Gold level matches being two of my solo's for my Lone Wolfe banner. I'm a N72800 with roughly 5000 points from challenges. That being said, I had only used a Drell one game previously and knew he was squishy. Equipment was Cyclonic III, Shotgun Amp III, Warp Ammo III, and Shield Booster I gear. 

Here is my manifest: http://social.biowar...8&platform=xbox

  Setting was Sur'Kesh Fire Base Jade, Gold, Cerberus. Three other players were already engaging the enemy on the back upper level of the board wave 2. It was a squad consisting of one Human Engineer, one N7 Demolisher, and one N7 Paladin. The Demolisher kept running off to engage the enemy solo, and was unsuccessful in his endeavors as he kept getting knocked down. I revived him a couple of times as did the other two players. I don't believe that he ever used his medi-gel pack to revive a single time. Other than on the objective waves, I stuck with the other two players on the upper level control room, when I wasn't rescuing the demolisher, and defended it with decent proficiency. On the objective waves we moved together to provide support. Despite the Demolisher's inability to stay with the group and stay alive he was dealing damage held the third position on the score card. I climbed to second place with the Engineer not far ahead within a few waves.

   I served as crowd control and armour debuff using Reave and Cluster Grenades while trying to beat back enemy soldiers with my GPS with warp ammo (No Pull Build). The Engineer stayed back and left toward the waterfall side of the control room in cover using an Acolyte and Incenerate to remove shields/ barriers and debuff armour as well. The two of us started to work together as I began to call out troop locations and movements over the mic as they approached or attempted to flank. We both were knocked down a couple of times each and revived which ever one fell then provided support to allow the other to regenerate shields or to take cover. I was the only one using the mic at the time. After a few minutes of this a crackle came over my headset as someone plugged in another mic, it was the Engineer. He introduced himself and I began to follow his lead as it was apparent that he was better suited to the match than I. I was knocked down once or twice (beings I was not used to playing as such a soft character) and bled out once after I tried to rescue our fallen Paladin and failed. Seeing this the Paladin MediGel revived and attempted to resuscitate me but was overwhelmed almost immediately so he was forced to retreat.

   I watched the other two players in spectate mode for the remainder of the wave (about half of the wave remaining,wave 8 I think). The Paladin was an ok player, he was clearly trying to contribute and wasn't doing too awful bad on his own. He was knocked down once and medi-gel revived and fell back to the control room to allow his shields to replenish while the Engineer was still in the same location as before with two Atlas mechs bearing down on his posistion. He took out the first mech, turned to the second just as a Phantom tried to flank. He caught her early and retreated, stripped her shields, and neutralized her at short range. Then he proceeded to finish off the remaining armour on the last Altas after further debuff.

   I was impressed at how the Engineer dispensed of the threats. At the beginning of wave nine the Paladin an I fell back to the Engineer's position while our faithful Demolisher continued on his rambo campaingn once again getting knocked down as he became overwhelmed. Unbelieveable, he bled out again beings all three of us were pinned and he was clear on the other side of the map.

   "This guy is terrible. Wish you would learn to stick with the group mate!" Mumbled the Engineer over the mic. "He keeps messing up the spawns by flying over to the far side of the map like that!"

   "What he doesn't realize, is that he is making things harder on all of us. Not only by going off and getting himself killed and leaving us a player short, but causing the enemy to hit us from all sides and overwhelm us." I replied.

   "Exactly. I hate when PUGs do that." The Engineer agreed. "Blackproject, I'm going to set up a new lobby after this match and invite a few friends in, you are welcome to join if you wish."

   "Count me in. Send me an invite when you get it set up."

   Wave ten was an escort that started in the back left corner of the board, led through the center underneath the LZ and around to the upload site. It went well until three turrets pinned us down at the lower front right landing from LZ at the upload site. There were so many Cerberus Engineers! Once again, we had a revive circle which our Engineer eventually broke after we desperately tried to revive each other, the Paladin and the Demolisher both were stomped by troopers and he managed to revive me. I let loose my entire supply of cluster grenades and we escaped back up to the upper level where we fended off the remaing wave budget. Extraction didn't go too bad beings all four of us worked together as a squad, including the Demolisher, back at our original spot just above LZ. With fifteen seconds remaining we cleared the LZ with cobra's and made a break for it. Resulted in Full extraction.
   Human Engineer placed first in points with a score of 112k. I placed a close second with a score of 101k. Our Demolisher friend placed third with a 78k score with our Paladin bringing in a score of 65k. Once back in the lobby The story became a little more evident. The Human Engineer had an N7 10,000+ almost exactly the same points from challenges. I had never met a player online with anywhere remotely close to that before, I had to look twice! HAHA! The Paladin was an N7280+ but it was clear he was trying so he was cool and I wouldn't mind playing with him in a match again. The Destroyer was N7110 so he was really new to the multiplayer thing, that made more sense.  



 

Modifié par blackproject18, 18 avril 2013 - 08:57 .


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Upon returning to the lobby the other two player dropped out and only the Engineer and myself remained. He switched the match to private and sent out some requests. i started to discuss his N7 and challenge points with him and how I was kind of caught off guard about it. he laughed and said wait until his buddy joined up. He requested that I join in his party so I did. There were a few others already in the party when we both joined. They were in-session on matches of their own. Two of them decided to join our lobby once they finished up the matches that they were in at the momment.

So, with some time to kill I threw out the idea of grabbing a beer which the Engineer was entertained by and decided to do the same. One of the players dropped in shortly after, A Krogan Adept N71,700+ followed by another player adourning a N7 Demolisher N718,000+. Neadless to say I was once again had to look twice. Everyone in the lobby had mics so we started to discuss some set ups and what characters we were going to use in the upcoming match. They suggested that it didn't really matter what I used so long as I was confident with the character of choice. So, I went to my jack of all trades Turian Sentinel. To make things easier I'm going to use names for these guys versus descriptions, and with respect to them I'm not going to use their real gamertag or names. The Engineer from the previous match, I'm going to call him Noble (N710,000+) kept his previous set-up. The Krogan Adept, Mule (N7 1,700+), adourned a barrier-less build with what I believe was a Claymore. Lastly the N7 Demolisher, Beetle (N7 18,000+), chose to wield a PPRX.

The match was set on Sur'Kesh Firebash Jade, Unknown enemy, Gold. This was to be the first of several matches based on Sur'Kesh beings that Noble needed a few more gold matches on that board to nearly complete his Nomad Challenge set. I love that board so I was all for this. We broke of into pairs, once again I followed Noble whereas Mule paired with Beetle. Wave one, Geth. Once again I played the crowd control role while taking out shields with overload and debuffing armour with warp. I had my M96 with high velicity barrel and piercing mod so I made quick work of Pyro's and Bombers. Our Strategy was that Noble and I watched over the LZ and the control room and Mule and Beetle watched the back left lower landing. This way we weren't far enough apart that enemies could spawn between us, yet close enough to reliably watch each other's flank. Very effective as it set up choke points in both directions. First objective was a four point, we knocked it out very fast as a team moving as one unit. Second objective was a very short escort from center of board to LZ which was cake using the same stragegy and whatever cover was available. The third objective was another escort which took us from the back left corner to the front right corner near LZ just like the previous match. This time it was a similar issue only this time with bombers versus Cerberus Turrets. I was knocked down first when two bombers flanked us followed next by Mule. We were almost immediately revived by Beetle and Noble. The bombers were priority one targets in thier eyes, so they became Mule and my priority targets as well. Never had another problem after that with bombers only the occasional Pyro that slipped through the net.

The entire match it felt like playing a well organized silver match, nowhere like a Gold match. Enemies were dropping like flies, even primes had a very short life span. I was really surprised. Once the smoke settled and the shuttle arrived, Beetle had top spot on the score card with 121k, close behind was Noble 120k, I ended up in third with 88k, and Mule followed with 78K. What a super clean match it was. We each went down only a few times with the exception of Beetle who was a level 10. He had to be revived several times which Mule, who stayed close by, was happy to assist. Noble also recognized this and made a comment about how smooth everything had gone. That made me feel really good as I was so new to the Gold level. After twon more matches on the same board with similar setups against unknown enemy forces Noble got his achievement for Gold Waves completed on Sur'Kesh. Next three matches were to take place in Rio DeJinero back on Earth. Once that was completed, he would only be one Gold board away from completing the Nomad Challenge. He already had the N7 Mastery Banner, which was Sa-weet by the way. Beetle had the Mass Effect banner for completing all of the challenges which I also want. We sat in the lobby between matches and discussed how they came to be so high of level. These guys were really down to Earth to talk to as well as extrememly helpful. I'm hoping to move onto platinum with these guys soon beings that they were discussing it towards the end of the night in one of our final matches in Rio against Cerberus. If you guys happen to read this, and we don't bump into each other again, thank you for the advice and a great set of matches. Hopefully we can do it again soon.

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I have never seen a bigger wall of text, to read it, it requires... dedication. You should add a synopsis.

Modifié par M A F I A, 16 novembre 2012 - 08:25 .


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We need a much shorter post yo. My attention span tends to slip after a few sentences.

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Did you get your doctorate yet? no way am I reading all that

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I love it when co-op works. It's beautiful. Don't always need mics. You can tell if somebody is good generally by the way they move, choose targets, and understand their situation and position.

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What if I tell you that I played a PUG Gold this week with 3 total noobs who each died three times in the first wave but then figured out to come to me and we easily made it to extraction?

Doesn't have anyting to do with N7 rating, just with common sense (which, admittedly, many players lack)

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So, basically I posted this for several reasons.

One: I have been a member of BSN for several months now. I research set-ups, learn new strategies, meet new players, and read up on write ups. After reading so many why do i get kicked from gold games, I learned what Gold players look for in squad mates.

Two: to acknowledge these other players strategy and share it so it may help other players improve their game as it had improved me as a ME3MP player as well as a squad member.

Three: I have yet to come across players who have taken the time to indepth show me how to play this game like these guys did. That said, I have just shy of 400 hours of playing time logged! That is saying something.

Four: Not everyone that play's ME3MP is a member here on BSN, or has even heard of BSN. Hopefully, some of you that read this will be inspired like I have been to reach out and help struggling players like these guys have helped me. I grow tired of these "Dear PUG" topics that I read over and over and yet, fail to see anyone do anything about it ingame. That would really be nice to see. Bear in mind I can only vouch for my personal observations and in No Way shape nor form can speak for the community as an entirety. Thank you for reading and sorry for wasting your time, but I just wanted to share my story on this event. I also plan to help other players as my game improves even more.

Edit: btw, this is my very first thread that I have started here on BSN.  My appologies for such a lengthy post but I find that the most helpful posts on here also contain the most detail.

Modifié par blackproject18, 16 novembre 2012 - 09:04 .


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TL:Dr version "Good teamwork and coordination make even difficult match ranks go smoothly?"

edit:

And "High N7 rank does not = skill" ?

Modifié par denarre, 16 novembre 2012 - 08:31 .


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denarre wrote...

TL:Dr version "Good teamwork and coordination make even difficult match ranks go smoothly?"

edit:

And "High N7 rank does not = skill" ?


If you really did read that, you are a hero.

Modifié par CaoSlayer, 16 novembre 2012 - 08:32 .


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sandboxgod wrote...

We need a much shorter post yo. My attention span tends to slip after a few sentences.

That should really make you think and reflect a little, shouldn't it? ^^

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Either you have a photographic memory or you took notes during the matches.

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Geez that was a long read but glad I did it and OP, guess you were lucky enough to eventually have a positive PUG experience. Hope it continues like that.

EDIT: And I don't know why it amazes me all the time, but the sheer fact that the internet is made of so much text, yet people have an incredibly hard time reading it rather than 'just being used to it'. Takes less than five minutes to read that wall.

Modifié par Deathjam, 16 novembre 2012 - 08:37 .


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You guys are lazy. He put it into paragraphs and everything. OP, I'm glad you had fun with these guys!

EDIT: I started reading this when it only had a couple of comments, so this seems a little out of place. Still! l2read already, geez.

Modifié par jordie3000, 16 novembre 2012 - 08:36 .


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After struggling through the first post, I turned to the second post: NOOOOOOOOOO!

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jordie3000 wrote...

You guys are lazy. He put it into paragraphs and everything. OP, I'm glad you had fun with these guys!

EDIT: I started reading this when it only had a couple of comments, so this seems a little out of place. Still! l2read already, geez.


My sentiments exactly.

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So how long did the matches take?

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Cool story

a decent team makes gold feel like bronze, platinum is the real pain in the ass because many kits get the short stick in boss kill mode.

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I'm sorry, I obviously haven't been paying attention. Since when does N7 rating mean anything?

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Thankfully, not everyone has the attention span of a goldfish - great account of your perspective, thanks for posting it!

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denarre wrote...

TL:Dr version "Good teamwork and coordination make even difficult match ranks go smoothly?"

edit:

And "High N7 rank does not = skill" ?


I agree completly; however, with experiece to some degree comes knowledge, which can help improve skill.

Don't get me wrong, these guys had insanely high N7, and just so happened that they were a whole differerent level of player above my skill set. It was their willingness to help and their approach that impressed me the most and how down to earth about everrything they were. None of this "That set up is junk' or "you are doing it all wrong" nothing like that. Kind of rare to find now-a-days.

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dstrawberrygirl wrote...

Thankfully, not everyone has the attention span of a goldfish - great account of your perspective, thanks for posting it!


And thank you for the read! Image IPB

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Oh God, looks like it's time to put on my big boy pants and reading glasses, because I've got a novel to decipher... I'll report back here once I've finished.

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ISHYGDDT wrote...

So how long did the matches take?


Definitely not speed run status, but it was around 25-26 minutes. I have read that 30 minutes is kind of lengthy for a Gold. Sound about right?

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it is always great when a random PUG can come together like this and very rarely you get a gem of a team to play with. I have had the honor of playing with some of these folks and good times ensue.

congrats on the games they sounded fun