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[JasonPogo]

So since this game is takeing its name from a truley horrible and truly barbaric event in real history I hope that is show in game.  Like just as an actual inquisitor in Spanish history I hope we get to torture and belittle other characters until they accept the Maker as their saviors then we can give them a quick death.
But seriously I feel this name is a poor choice.  There was nothing good about the Inquisition...

[DPSSOC]

To be fair the title merely references an Inquisition not the Inquisition.

[AppealToReason]

The feeling I got at the panel last month was that you're out to myth hunt old ass lore stuff in long lost dungeons and whatnot.

So you're "Inquisiting" into the world.

[JasonPogo]

DPSSOC wrote...

To be fair the title merely references an Inquisition not the Inquisition.

Obviously, but ANY Inquasition is a negative thing.  The Definition if Inquasition I have is

:an investigation conducted wtth little regard for individual rights

[sylvanaerie]

AppealToReason wrote...

The feeling I got at the panel last month was that you're out to myth hunt old ass lore stuff in long lost dungeons and whatnot.

So you're "Inquisiting" into the world.

Actually...that sounds pretty cool.

[Sol Downer]

in·qui·si·tion
[ ìnkwə zísh'n ]

1.period of intense questioning: a succession of detailed and relentless questions
2.harsh investigation: an inquiry or investigation that is harsh or unfair

...This doesn't sound very evil to me.

[deuce985]

Where do you get being in the Inquisition is "evil"? I also wonder how Bioware feels that so many on these forums want to do so much harm to their precious characters.

But anyways, I doubt you'll be able to play a pure "evil" character unless it absolutely pertains to the story. Even doing "evil" actions in DAO/DA2 can be argued for the better good. Even an action like sticking the Murder Knife in poor Father Genitivis skull. You give him options to stop but he doesn't, so you have no choice but to kill him. He's only looking at the Sacred Ashes being a "good" thing for Fereldan. Yet, someone who wants to exploit power could easily manipulate those ashes for their own selfish utopia. I couldn't make him see it this way, so I had to kill him. It's cold, but I felt it was the best thing for the people. Some things need to stay hidden from the world. Why risk exposing the world to that kind of power even if it's such a divine artifact for pilgrims?

You could argue many actions like that in Bioware games. Bioware almost always gives a different perspective and it's never a clear "evil" thing to do. It always relates to the story.

Modifié par deuce985, 17 novembre 2012 - 05:12 .

[AppealToReason]

sylvanaerie wrote...

AppealToReason wrote...

The feeling I got at the panel last month was that you're out to myth hunt old ass lore stuff in long lost dungeons and whatnot.

So you're "Inquisiting" into the world.

Actually...that sounds pretty cool.

Which is why I want to slap everyone who is all "DERP Y WEE HAV 2 KILL ALL DA MAYGES?!"

[Fredward]

Why on earth does the real world connotations have to have any bearing on the organization in game?

Heck maybe the protag's surname will be Torquemada while we're at it.

[Fredward]

Filament wrote...
Somehow I doubt they used names like "inquisition" and "tranquil solution" just entirely coincidentally like they didn't expect or encourage players to make these kinds of connections.

Maybe? Or they just chose them because they were conveniently similar and they were too lazy to think up new names. xp

And the Tranquil Solution was only ever a plan, very unlike Hitler's Final Solution so why does Inquisition have to have anything in common with the Spanish Inquisition other than the name?

[Quill74Pen]

Ultimashade wrote...

in·qui·si·tion
[ ìnkwə zísh'n ]

1.period of intense questioning: a succession of detailed and relentless questions
2.harsh investigation: an inquiry or investigation that is harsh or unfair

...This doesn't sound very evil to me.

Well, it probably isn't until they break out the rack. Then things get interesting ... and painful. 

[Ausstig]

JasonPogo wrote...

DPSSOC wrote...

To be fair the title merely references an Inquisition not the Inquisition.

Obviously, but ANY Inquasition is a negative thing.  The Definition if Inquasition I have is

:an investigation conducted wtth little regard for individual rights

:lol::lol:, you do know that the Spainish Inquistion banned witch trials? Said that witch craft did not exist and created the idea of 'Burdne of Proof', ie innocent until proven guilt. 

now a few facts from TV Tropes; 'Fair for it's day' http://tvtropes.org/...n/FairForItsDay It's under real life.

The Inquisition is usually portrayed as a sinister and oppressive organization. However, The Papal Inquisition was the first European secret police more than anything else. The Inquisition was also revolutionary lenient for its time, as it limited the use of torture (which was very common in secular courts), allowed the defendants legal representation, and issued death sentences much less often than in municipal proceedings where petty thieves usually were sent to swing. However all this pales compared to the fact that the Inquisition rose above its contemporary courts in placing the burden of evidence on the prosecutor.And the Spanish Inquisition ended witch trials in Spain a full century before the rest of Europe because it required scientific proof of witchcraft — not just eyewitness accounts.In the late 16th Century the Spanish Inquisition ruled that there was no such thing as witchcraft and declared all those who claimed to be witches lunatics. This did not, however, stop magistrates courts and municipal authorities hanging hundreds, possibly thousands, of people as 'witches' regardless. Also, the great share of the Protestant-burning done in the Netherlands was done by the Dutch Inquisition.It's also worth noting that the Inquisition went through phases in its history. Initially, it was completely a church-controlled organizaiton. At that point, the secular governments routinely complained that it was way too lenient with heretics and such, just educating them as to their theological errors and sending them on their way. It was when the Inquisition was broken up into national, government-controlled organizations (like the Spanish Inquisition) that it became much harsher.[/list]

[DreGregoire]

You could always play an evil character in any game, if you want, as long as you accomplish what is necessary. Personally I refuse to look at things in a good vs. evil light. It's all about motivation of the individual. You can do something that others may consider less than good, but have done it for what you consider good reasons. Or you could do something others consider good but you did it for purely selfish reasons. I think, depending on the role we actually get to play in DAIII, there will be plenty of room for corruption and self satisfaction.

Modifié par DreGregoire, 17 novembre 2012 - 08:39 .

[esper]

DreGregoire wrote...

You could always play an evil character in any game, if you want, as long as you accomplish what is necessary. Personally I refuse to look at things in a good vs. evil light. It's all about motivation of the individual. You can do something that others may consider less than good, but have done it for what you consider good reasons. Or you could do something others consider good but you did it for purely selfish reasons. I think, depending on the role we actually get to play in DAIII, there will be plenty of room for corruption and self satisfaction.

Hear, heard.

My warden saved Amerinthine solely becaused it annoyed her that she had walked all the way up to the city simply to burn it down an walk away. She came to fight dammit.

All those human life that did not get burned. Well good for them, but it was about her own pride. If she had had to crucify them to salvage her pride at that point she would have done that.

[JWvonGoethe]

A true chaotic evil character wouldn't be something I'd like to see, but a character who has his or her own system of morality that is often completely at odds with that of most reasonable people - to the extent that such a character could be seen as evil - would be most welcome.

Modifié par JWvonGoethe, 17 novembre 2012 - 02:16 .

[sunnydxmen]

i hope they antiva sence it is spanish.

[ledod]

Hope we get to waterboard some sinful ruins. Maybe rough 'em up with some righteous chains?

[sunnydxmen]

i would love to be evil and torture heroes haha.

[Kail Ashton]

oddly enough i'm not really a fan of playing a douchebag character style; strange given what a douchebag i am on these forums; but still can't say i'd care for being lord of nefarious darkness in DA3, maybe just keep it too "i didn't have my coffee yet so ****** off" grumpy personality like in DA2

[Chaos Lord Malek]

I want a personal torturer(NPC). Or maybe even as companion. And Love interest too, to tie in with 50 shades of Grey popularity

[Little Princess Peach]

DPSSOC wrote...

To be fair the title merely references an Inquisition not the Inquisition.

Thats right has it even been conferm'd by Bioware that we will be the Inquisitors?

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

Regardless of the name of the game and whatever the Player Character's allegiances end up being, I would love to be able to play a ruthless, evil, slimy, back-stabbing bastard (or b***h). I don't have to be an inquisitor to want to do bad, bad things.

I had tremendous fun playing a mean-spirited, manipulative, selfish, cruel mage in DA:O. They still called me the Hero of Fereldan despite the fact that I damned my own people with the Rite of Annulment, betrayed the Dalish, and murdered a small boy to foil a demon's plot, and yet made deals with demons at every opportunity. He felt about as evil as a heroic figure could be!