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What would the Grey Wardens do once all the Blights are defeated?


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They'll do what any specialized fighting force does: Demonize something entirely different so that they don't lose their jobs.


I could see that happening as well.

Assuming there are more wars in the north with the Qunari (likely, considering the expansionist ideology of the Qunari) the Grey Wardens could end up evolving into a crusading order, devoting themselves to defending Thedas from Qunari expansion.


Surely that would be intefering in politics which Grey Wardens avoid. Plus, you don't need a Grey Warden to kill the Arishok, or any Qunari for that matter, and this could just as easily be done by Thedas' armies. I imagine once the Blights are done with and the darkspawn are no longer a threat, the Grey Wardens will cease to exist as they are now it's cruel to inflict the joining for the sake of tradition.


That isn't exactly true.

While officially the Grey Wardens are supposed to remain detached from local politics, in practice that isn't always the case. There are examples in the game where we see Grey Wardens breaking this rule.

The first is the Anderfels, where we are told that the monarchy is weak and that the locals look to the Grey Wardens for leadership. Riordan notes that the Ander Wardens are a different breed, and seem to enjoy the political power and influence they have there.

The second is Ferelden, where after the darkspawn are defeated it potentially has a Grey Warden crowned as king and another Warden as the kingdon's Chancellor, and a fiefdom within the kingdom (Aramanthine) that is ruled over by the Grey Wardens. Delving back into Ferelden's history, Sophia Dryden's rebellion against the monarchy is another example of Wardens getting entangled in local politics.

Assuming all the darkspawn were annihilated I just can't see the Wardens turning their swords into plowshares. While some Wardens of noble birth could simply return to their nations of origin and live in comfort, what of those of common birth, who presumably make up the majority of the rank and file? Not to mention commoners who make up some of the high leadership, as the Grey Wardens are a meritocracy. Those commoners would have the most to lose. I just can't see the Grey Wardens with common origins, both high and low ranking and many of whom have known little else but soldiering for years, deciding to pack in their gear and return to the simple life of a common peasant. Human nature just doesn't work that way, IMO. There might be some people in the ranks in the mold of a Cincinnatus, who are willing to give up soldiering once the fight is over. But I don't think that would be the case for most of them.

And I can't see the Ander Wardens, both of high and low birth, walking away from their positions of power and prestige (and presumably wealth) that they enjoy in the Anderfels.

Far more likely in my opinion is that the Grey Wardens would continue to exist, but would evolve to meet the changing times. Short of local kings or warlords stamping out the order in their territorities, the Grey Wardens would probably either swear fealty to local kings and fight in their armies, evolve into a mercenary band that fights for whatever king pays them most, or convert themselves into an order dedicated exlusively to fighting some other enemy. (i.e. the Qunari) Or maybe all of the above, varying from region to region.


Also the Grand Enchanter Fiona used to be a Grey Warden, she vacilitated the official separation of mages from the Chantry. So lets see, we had Sophia Dryden who meddled in politics, if you played a certain way you could have a king AND queen Grey Warden in Ferelden and quite regardless of that Amaranthine is completely under Warden control, the Anderfels is basically under Warden control and a former Grey Warden sparked the Mage-Templar war which is gonna have an astronomical body count in the end.

The Wardens might as well rewrite their rules and say "If the political position offers you the ability to mess with stuff on a global scale you need to get on that ****!" XD

Modifié par Foopydoopydoo, 17 novembre 2012 - 06:26 .


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They have parties. Big elaborate parties with Orlesian cheese and various meats from the Anderfells.

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They would become a monastic order and turn their attention inward to master their taint.

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They would become a monastic order and turn their attention inward to master their taint.


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Uh Huh Huh Huh! Huh huh huh! You said taint!

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They created new Blight...

How?

because of there is no more Darkspawn, they become Darkspawn themselves, and female Warden becoming Broodmothers....they only need to corrupt a dragon...

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Foopydoopydoo wrote...

Also the Grand Enchanter Fiona used to be a Grey Warden, she vacilitated the official separation of mages from the Chantry. So lets see, we had Sophia Dryden who meddled in politics, if you played a certain way you could have a king AND queen Grey Warden in Ferelden and quite regardless of that Amaranthine is completely under Warden control, the Anderfels is basically under Warden control and a former Grey Warden sparked the Mage-Templar war which is gonna have an astronomical body count in the end.

The Wardens might as well rewrite their rules and say "If the political position offers you the ability to mess with stuff on a global scale you need to get on that ****!" XD



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Very good point. I had forgotten about Fiona and Anders meddling in politics as well.

I kind of see the rule about not getting involved in political intrigue as being a romantic ideal much like the chivalrous code of behavior medieval kings and knights were supposed to engage in, but often didn't when it suited them. Human nature unfortunately is what it is, and we can be greedy, power hungry, and brutal as often as we are just, virtuous or noble.

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Females with the taint to not automatically become broodmothers, There is more to it than just being tainted- though it is never directly said what that is. So female wardens wouldn't automatically become broodmothers just because they are tainted.

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If all the darkspawn are extinct and they are as noble as the stories suggest? They will record all they know of the Darkspawn then one and all fall on their swords so that the Taint ends with them.

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Females with the taint to not automatically become broodmothers, There is more to it than just being tainted- though it is never directly said what that is. So female wardens wouldn't automatically become broodmothers just because they are tainted.


Who knows...?

When there is no Darkspwn anymore in the world, the one who have Darkspawn tainted blood are the Wardens...so these Wardens out of boring, forcing female Wardens drinking their blood and rape them, making Broodmothers

Modifié par Nizaris1, 17 novembre 2012 - 06:47 .


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Without the darkspawn I don't think the Joining Ritual would survive. Or at least it wouldn't in its current form.

The Joining Ritual, besides binding the recruit to the organization, also makes him or her capable of slaying an archdemon. It is however a death sentence, and as such is only a necessary evil to combat Blights. Remove the potential for Blights and you also remove the need for the Joining as it is currently.

So I'd bet on the Joining Ritual living on, but like the Wardens, evolving. Future Wardens might go through some right of passage when joining the Wardens but it would be symbolic, and not involve getting tainted.

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Nizaris1 wrote...

Females with the taint to not automatically become broodmothers, There is more to it than just being tainted- though it is never directly said what that is. So female wardens wouldn't automatically become broodmothers just because they are tainted.


Who knows...?

When there is no Darkspwn anymore in the world, the one who have Darkspawn tainted blood are the Wardens...so these Wardens out of boring, forcing female Wardens drinking their blood, making Broodmothers


But that makes no sense.  If the Wardens exist to stop the blight then why would they start a new one?  Also, if my FWarden is anything to go by then it would be really hard to "force" the female wardens to drink blood- or anything else they don't want to do.  Also, there's no evidence that anyone (who is not a darkspawn) knows the process to make a broodmother.  And tainted people are not actually darkspawn, they are ghouls.

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what if they become an order like the greybeards from skyrim and decide to hole up in some mountain? waiting until the darkspawn come back if they come back. We also need to look at why the darkspawn were created.... because the magisters sinned against the maker. If we destroyed all the darkspawn do you think the maker simply wouldnt create more?

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Depends on what the darkspawn do when there's no archdemon calling to them. But say there's no darkspawn too then the wardens would die out within one generation, there's no way to make more neither is there a reason to.

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I think that the grey wardens would split into different factions. One that takes the more traditional stance and still decides to undergo the joining incase the darkspawn ever rise up again and the other group takes a more modern approach simply adopting the wardens values and not undergoing the joining but rather doing a symbolic joining. Imagine if the darkspawn came back tho! it'd make for an interesting game since the whole universe wouldve written of the grey wardens and there being so few true grey wardens left

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Head to the beach?
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Orlais will arrest, inquisition and execute all the leaders in a surprise sweep and the surviving members will mostly disband or disappear from relevancy while one sect retreats to an obscure corner of the Anderfels, helps a community of farmer hillfolk fight and gain independence and then create a grand banking system that will become a lasting hallmark of the world. All the savvy nobels will keep their wealth there to avoid their kingdom's taxes.

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They will finally get around to their true goal: trying to have children with darkspawn.

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Turn the Anderfels into the Prussia of Thedas.


Isnt Nevarra alredy the Prussia of Thedas?

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Die from darkspawn taint.

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Turn the Anderfels into the Prussia of Thedas.

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Aolbain wrote...
Isnt Nevarra alredy the Prussia of Thedas?

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Modifié par Kingroxas, 18 novembre 2012 - 12:30 .


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...what everybody else said.

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Foopydoopydoo wrote...

Also the Grand Enchanter Fiona used to be a Grey Warden, she vacilitated the official separation of mages from the Chantry. So lets see, we had Sophia Dryden who meddled in politics, if you played a certain way you could have a king AND queen Grey Warden in Ferelden and quite regardless of that Amaranthine is completely under Warden control, the Anderfels is basically under Warden control and a former Grey Warden sparked the Mage-Templar war which is gonna have an astronomical body count in the end.

The Wardens might as well rewrite their rules and say "If the political position offers you the ability to mess with stuff on a global scale you need to get on that ****!" XD



They could basically unite the entire Thedas under a huge Warden Empire, if it wasn't for their short lifespan. 

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What did the dream version of Duncan say in Origins?

"The Grey Wardens shall be keepers of history. We shall tell tales and sing songs of a more tumultous time that others may rejoice in knowing that time is spent."

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slowly die out.

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"The grey Wardens shall be keepers of history. We shall tell tales and sing songs of a more tumultuous time, that others may rejoice in knowing that that time is past."
Besides that... I don't know, probably occupy time with drinking games at Weisshaupt for a while.