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#101
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Zjarcal wrote...

Kenadian wrote...

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There's a reason why I prefer Collectors on Platinum instead of Gold... less Collectors.

That probably says something. :?


You get Platinum Geth instead while playing Plat Collectors. Out of the pan into the fire.


I still prefer it to gold collectors. :mellow:


Heh. I'd rather deal with possessed Scions than the festering BS that is Geth stun.

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Other than that though, I think that Collectors are about even with Cerberus, both of which are harder than Reapers.

and the Geth are just a bunch of cheaters.


I would agree, but I would add that I think they should be brought down to the level of Reapers.

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Seekers are tough and take your powers for 5 seconds. That's a long time. And sometimes they bug out and do 2x "damage" That means 10 seconds with NO powers. 


They also reduce accuracy by a considerable amount(60% if I remember right), and have a hitbox that appears to be smaller than their actual model is.

Other than that though, I think that Collectors are about even with Cerberus, both of which are harder than Reapers.

and the Geth are just a bunch of cheaters.


Yeah, but a gun class can still shoot, while the power class has NO powers AND reduced accuracy. 

And yes, taking half of Harrier extended clip to die is too much. 

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I dont personally have any major issues against the collectors as I feel their units work well in conjunction with each other. They are aggressive, as they should be and have units to both push you into and pull you out of cover. (Praetorians and scions). They can be a challenge, but all of their units are easily trivialized with proper counter-measures.

Also, the easiest enemy to headshot in the game should have more health. It is so easy to take them down with consistent heashots. Should be even easier on PC.

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Collectors Gold on the hazard version of glacier is worse than any platinum of other factions on almost any other regular map. There's just way too much going on when you factor the close quarters and that extra deadly swarm of persistent bees into the equation.

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Blind2Society wrote...

I would agree, but I would add that I think they should be brought down to the level of Reapers.


I think that the Reapers should be brought up to the level of the other factions rather than everyone else brought down, personally.

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Yeah, but a gun class can still shoot, while the power class has NO powers AND reduced accuracy. 

And yes, taking half of Harrier extended clip to die is too much. 


Well I did say that I think that they should be nerfed, though I don't think it needs a reduction in both the penalty for being hit as well as how durable they are. One or the other should be fine.

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Cyonan wrote...

Blind2Society wrote...

I would agree, but I would add that I think they should be brought down to the level of Reapers.


I think that the Reapers should be brought up to the level of the other factions rather than everyone else brought down, personally.

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Yeah, but a gun class can still shoot, while the power class has NO powers AND reduced accuracy. 

And yes, taking half of Harrier extended clip to die is too much. 


Well I did say that I think that they should be nerfed, though I don't think it needs a reduction in both the penalty for being hit as well as how durable they are. One or the other should be fine.


I think enemies were already buffed too much. And plain damage, durability, speed buffs are boring and cheap. 

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Zjarcal wrote...

Kenadian wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

There's a reason why I prefer Collectors on Platinum instead of Gold... less Collectors.

That probably says something. :?


You get Platinum Geth instead while playing Plat Collectors. Out of the pan into the fire.


I still prefer it to gold collectors. :mellow:


iirc Geth are the last to spawn on Collector Platinum

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I think enemies were already buffed too much. And plain damage, durability, speed buffs are boring and cheap. 


Don't forget that we have been significantly buffed ourselves. Moreso than the enemy has been.

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I love the Collectors. Yes, the Scions are ridiculous, but they aren't very difficult to kill. The trouble they give you is more with avoiding their own attacks.

Easily my favorite faction (though that may be because the Collectors are the only faction that don't feel identical to the others).

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Zjarcal wrote...

Kenadian wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

There's a reason why I prefer Collectors on Platinum instead of Gold... less Collectors.

That probably says something. :?


You get Platinum Geth instead while playing Plat Collectors. Out of the pan into the fire.


I still prefer it to gold collectors. :mellow:


Not sure if you're just desparate or if you've been driven to insanity.:(

#112
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 Agreed with just about all of that.


I'm also not a fan of the Possessed Abomination nuclear explosion. Give it seeker plague damage if you must, but the AoE damage of that thing right now is just too much.

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I think enemies were already buffed too much. And plain damage, durability, speed buffs are boring and cheap. 


Don't forget that we have been significantly buffed ourselves. Moreso than the enemy has been.


Most of the weapon and powers were buffed to bring them on-par because they were very weak (and some of them still are)

Also I don't consider extra medigel, rockets, survival packs or thermal clips a buff to the player. Better have less of these, but more fun and fair gameplay. 

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 There is one thing that makes Collectors just as manageable as any other faction.

T.E.A.M.W.O.R.K. (Together Everyone Achieves More Work On Rear-End Kicking)

Unfortunately, the typical PUG is not willing to follow this.

Modifié par Mendelevosa, 18 novembre 2012 - 03:14 .


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Air Quotes wrote...
Most of the weapon and powers were buffed to bring them on-par because they were very weak (and some of them still are)

Also I don't consider extra medigel, rockets, survival packs or thermal clips a buff to the player. Better have less of these, but more fun and fair gameplay. 


They have still been buffed, and things like the Harrier blows away every weapon we had at launch(even the Hurricane hadn't been buffed that high, yet).

The introduction of gear was a massive buff to us, especially grenade users.

We've also gotten new more powerful characters and buffs to old characters to help them match the new ones. The Asari Adept which is pretty average by today's standards was once argued as the most OP character in the game.

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Cyonan wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...
Most of the weapon and powers were buffed to bring them on-par because they were very weak (and some of them still are)

Also I don't consider extra medigel, rockets, survival packs or thermal clips a buff to the player. Better have less of these, but more fun and fair gameplay. 


They have still been buffed, and things like the Harrier blows away every weapon we had at launch(even the Hurricane hadn't been buffed that high, yet).

The introduction of gear was a massive buff to us, especially grenade users.

We've also gotten new more powerful characters and buffs to old characters to help them match the new ones. The Asari Adept which is pretty average by today's standards was once argued as the most OP character in the game.


Hello, power creep. Changes in AI behavior almost demanded some of the buffs to the player arsenal, though.

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A few things bother me about the collectors:
1) They don't make sounds so a Praetorian can easily creep up on you while say a Banshee or an Atlas can't
2) Praetorian's LOLZ IM IMMUNE TO ALL POWERS BRO bubble is just plain annoying. Phantoms and Banshees have the bubble too but they don't have the bubble on and haul ass at you at full speed
3) Everything explodes

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I don't see the problem with the scions - right, they launch grenades, but if you can actually, you know, AIM at their heads, they go down rather fast.

In general, the faction needs more sounds, especially the Praetorians, who need to have their speed toned down a little. Collectors are farking strong, but not exactly cheap, Id' say.

edit: exploding Abominations are lulzy. 11/10 for that to Bioware.

Modifié par Heldarion, 18 novembre 2012 - 03:41 .


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I noticed that flamer absolutely owns collectors. That's just my opinion though.

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The only problem I come across with Collectors are the swarm spam and Possessed Scion grenade spam which is even worse when 2 get possessed.

I like the challenge the Collectors present, i just hate those swarms the most.

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The health on seeker swarms is too damn high!

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Dat Tac Scan wrote...

A few things bother me about the collectors:
1) They don't make sounds so a Praetorian can easily creep up on you while say a Banshee or an Atlas can't
2) Praetorian's LOLZ IM IMMUNE TO ALL POWERS BRO bubble is just plain annoying. Phantoms and Banshees have the bubble too but they don't have the bubble on and haul ass at you at full speed
3) Everything explodes

I think banshees can charge with their protective bubble up, can't they?

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robarcool wrote...

Dat Tac Scan wrote...

A few things bother me about the collectors:
1) They don't make sounds so a Praetorian can easily creep up on you while say a Banshee or an Atlas can't
2) Praetorian's LOLZ IM IMMUNE TO ALL POWERS BRO bubble is just plain annoying. Phantoms and Banshees have the bubble too but they don't have the bubble on and haul ass at you at full speed
3) Everything explodes

I think banshees can charge with their protective bubble up, can't they?


If they can, I've never seen it.  It could be a lag-induced effect.

Modifié par ISHYGDDT, 18 novembre 2012 - 03:54 .


#124
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I never call for balance, but, XP is too low. An u/u/g match can yield 500000 XP. Unless its collectors. Then its more like 333000. Bullcrap! They're tougher than the others yet worth less?

#125
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Scoins is the one I have issues with, I can generally flank them however their cannon has gross power and it doesn't seem to matter what level, they never miss and I wonder sometimes how they know where I am.