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[Random Geth]

No, because it's not an ending. It's clever and it makes more sense than the stupidity we got, but it's an explanation with no conclusion. It'd be smarter, but it'd be even more of a face-first trip into a brick wall than what we have now.

[Zakuspec089]

What about those that played Paragon or in between and didn't chose The Desstroy ending do they get screwed? I know I played both but I'm a Paragonist.

[Snypy]

Zakuspec089 wrote...
What about those that played Paragon or in between and didn't chose The Desstroy ending do they get screwed? I know I played both but I'm a Paragonist.

I don't think that playing as a Paragon has anything to do with not choosing the Destroy ending. I play as a paragon and I choose Destroy every time.

[KotorEffect3]

I am not interested in some fan fiction.

[Redbelle]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

Say that Bioware follows up on wanting to allow fans to interpret the endings that way (as they supposedly took special care not to debunk indoctrination in the extended cut). 

Would fans be interested in Indoctrination Theory DLC that ends the main story with that in mind (at 800-1200msp)?  An extended campaign where Shepard awakens and 'finishes the fight?'

What say ye?

While I would support a DLC centred around indoctrination, I could no longer support the IT version of this.

The reason isn't because IT isn't any good. It was a brilliant theory and still has alot of valid points to it's merit.

The problem is BW have done little to nothing in referencing Shepard being indoctrinated and went instead for their artistic vision.

That said, a DLC where Shepard goes on a mission where he becomes aware that he is being indoctrinated would be an opportunity to tell a story where the writers can mess around with the player through Shepard. Start hearing voices of old friends who were dead/indoctrinated? Find that the pistol fires 4 shots when you hit the mouse button 6 times? Start hallucinating that an oily shadow is stalking Shepard and only by looking at it does it not move?

This is an opportunity for the Writers to develop a horrer aspect to the circumstances Shepard finds himself in.

The operative goal however would be to overcome indoctrination. To survive it with his faculities intact and not controlled in any way.

However, the writer who attempts this should do so with care as any DLC that delves into the process of indoctrination and brings it to life has to work the story into the fan's understanding of it as it has been presented over three games.

I don't think it's impossible. But there are obvious pitfalls to avoid.

[ckolsen]

magnetite wrote...

Don't need a DLC that confirms IT or a post-breath scene so to speak. I'm happy with it being open to interpretation.

Agreed. 

[thehomeworld]

You mean would I be interested in a DLC that invalidates ME2 - ME3? No I wouldn't.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

I am not interested in some fan fiction.

It's only fan fiction if Bioware doesn't make it (and make it official).  They have been on record though acknowledging IT and not wanting to debunk it with their endings.

In any case, I have no opinion on this.  Just thought it would be an interesting question to ask.  Given the myriad of responses, I wasn't wrong.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

thehomeworld wrote...

You mean would I be interested in a DLC that invalidates ME2 - ME3? No I wouldn't.

IT invalidates ME2 and ME3?  How-so?  Shepard being indoctrinated is not far-fetched at all (considering the Arrival DLC's "struggle if you wish, your mind will be mine" line and arguably having more exposure to Reaper technology than anyone)

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 18 novembre 2012 - 09:50 .

[The Heretic of Time]

No, I would hate IT DLC.


I would like to see a DLC that explores the idea of Shepard getting indoctrinated, but the DLC shouldn't have anything to do with the silly and stupid Indoctrination Theory, nor should it have anything to do with the ending of the game.

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 19 novembre 2012 - 12:37 .

[Reofeir]

I swear I hate it when this topic arises. I am OK with the "New ending" or a "successful refuse + heavy casualties", but not IT. Never IT. Can we please forget IT already?

[CptBomBom00]

IT, IT, IT?????????????? I ****ing T, DLC?????? well at first it was nice theory, but then it grew and well, now we got the mother of theories.

[Malanek]

Random Geth wrote...

No, because it's not an ending. It's clever and it makes more sense than the stupidity we got, but it's an explanation with no conclusion. It'd be smarter, but it'd be even more of a face-first trip into a brick wall than what we have now.

The DLC would presumably be the ending, with the "real" way of defeating the reapers contained.

If the EC had of been the indoctrination theory, it would have been really clever and memorable. But they have already said it never happened. And if they change their mind it becomes a lot less clever because it wasn't what they really intended and that is important to me for that type of storytelling.

So no. I wanted it, but now I know it wasn't intended, I don't want it.

[Auintus]

No. IT was cooked up by some folks who couldn't accept the real ending. Supporting it would "debunk" the real endings, which I would not appreciate.

[Han Shot First]

No.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

A big thanks to everyone for their answers.

For those of you that feel IT would invalidate the current endings, you do know that the story of ME3... was just a story right? (those who have beaten the game should know what I mean)

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 19 novembre 2012 - 07:20 .

[Seival]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

A big thanks to everyone for their answers.

For those of you that feel IT would invalidate the current endings, you do know that the story of ME3... was just a story right? (those who have beaten the game should know what I mean)

Maybe for you it's "just a story". But not for me. I don't want ME Trilogy ending to become primitive and boring because of IT or conventional victory. And I'm glad that devs have the same opinion.

[Made in USSR]

Yeah. Who love red-green-blue ending, have Extended cut. IT dlc for other fans.

[dsl08002]

Yes i would be

[Ironhandjustice]

Please, yes.

XD

Still a better ending. You raise up at sunrise, lurk to the ray, enter at the control ray (metal gear 4 scene) and fire the crucible up.

BURN, YOU CTHULHU-LIKE JELLYFISHES!!!

[Ironhandjustice]

Seival wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

A big thanks to everyone for their answers.

For those of you that feel IT would invalidate the current endings, you do know that the story of ME3... was just a story right? (those who have beaten the game should know what I mean)

Maybe for you it's "just a story". But not for me. I don't want ME Trilogy ending to become primitive and boring because of IT or conventional victory. And I'm glad that devs have the same opinion.

Ah yes, you support having the same endings that the asimov's books and deus ex games have...

I understand.<_<

[GreenFlag]

maybe better, if ME4 starts with IT.

[Matchy Pointy]

Should they do DLC for every other fan-fic out there too?

[The Heretic of Time]

People really need to learn to let the IT go. Just get over it and accept that the endings of ME3 aren't as genius as you hoped they would be. The other 90% of ME3's plot, which is just as shallow and crappy as the ending, should make it clear that the writers at BioWare aren't the geniuses you think they are. They're mediocre writers, capable of writing a cliche blockbuster action story at best.

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 19 novembre 2012 - 05:17 .

[Kroitz]

Sure. I still think it would have been an awesome and memorable twist with great opportunities for a great priority-earth mission.

But fans are more eager to say anything that would earn them a digital pat on the back instead of embracing fresh ideas.