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[sylvanaerie]

Vendetta543 wrote...

You mean other than the fact that he's a despicable human being? You also can't forget the fact that he has the FEMALE walking animation. It just gives him an overall creepy vibe.

Nah, not going to hold it against him because of his severe case of spinal/hip malformation.  My 'canon' Hawke was the 'greedy rogue who would have had a heart of gold if she hadn't sold it' type.  Her only motivation was he was offering so little for the sale...

[Vendetta543]

Baron Arlange has the same problem:p Does Bioware just have a thing with making the sissy/creepy villains effeminate?

[hoorayforicecream]

I realize I am late to this discussion, but here's my take.

Isabela captained her own ship. The slaves she was transporting were in her ship. When she decided to free them, she probably just put into port someplace and let them go. The only people who would know would be the freed slaves and her own crew. She'd risk mutiny, but I doubt that her crew would turn on her that easily.

Castillon runs a pretty massive slaving operation - enough for him to absorb the loss of an entire boatload of slaves and still continue business seemingly without trouble. It stands to reason that Castillon employs more than just the men that he brought with him to the fight. If you slay Castillon, his remaining sailors will likely hear about it and simply pull up anchor and leave. If you manage to steal aboard and kill the remaining sailors before they know about it, word of that is also bound to spread, and who'd be willing to join a captain who's last two crews all met gruesome fates?

The ships we're talking about are pretty large - large enough to carry some number of slaves (I believe the number was 200, but I need to verify) in the hold. Further, the desire demon that tempts Isabela in the fade offers a hundred-man brigantine. It just isn't feasible that one would simply attack a ship at the docks and claim it, especially in full view of the port authority and the captain of the guard.

[Thomas Andresen]

I'm thinking "Hayder likes to exaggerate" is the most reasonable explanation. But on the other hand, us players have minimal insight into the slave trade in Thedas.

[Vendetta543]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

I realize I am late to this discussion, but here's my take.

Isabela captained her own ship. The slaves she was transporting were in her ship. When she decided to free them, she probably just put into port someplace and let them go. The only people who would know would be the freed slaves and her own crew. She'd risk mutiny, but I doubt that her crew would turn on her that easily.

Castillon runs a pretty massive slaving operation - enough for him to absorb the loss of an entire boatload of slaves and still continue business seemingly without trouble. It stands to reason that Castillon employs more than just the men that he brought with him to the fight. If you slay Castillon, his remaining sailors will likely hear about it and simply pull up anchor and leave. If you manage to steal aboard and kill the remaining sailors before they know about it, word of that is also bound to spread, and who'd be willing to join a captain who's last two crews all met gruesome fates?

The ships we're talking about are pretty large - large enough to carry some number of slaves (I believe the number was 200, but I need to verify) in the hold. Further, the desire demon that tempts Isabela in the fade offers a hundred-man brigantine. It just isn't feasible that one would simply attack a ship at the docks and claim it, especially in full view of the port authority and the captain of the guard.

I sincerely doubt Isabela's crew turned on her. Based on her comments, her crew seemed reasonably loyat to her all things considered. Also, who would hold it against her? In the crapsack world of Thedas, killing droves of people is the rule, not the exception. Note that she got her first ship after her husband was assassinated, and she still managed to captain the ship despite being both a woman (a hard gender to be in the sea trade), and being the former captain's trophy wife.

[sylvanaerie]

Isabela says she was escorting one of Castillon's ships, got a bad feeling mid-trip and boarded it to find the cargo hold filled with men, women and children fleeing the Blight. Castillon took their money and was going to sell them (presumably in Tevinter). It wasn't her ship they were on, but Castillon's.

I think Hayder is just remarkably stupid or else the writers meant to say "the lot were worth at least 100 sovereigns".   Which would be a considerable (and a lot more believeable sum) than 100 per person.

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 08 décembre 2012 - 10:02 .