And just because a mage is an apostate from the Circle does not mean that they have lost all of their contacts in the Circle.
Of course. But I meant that once a Mage becomes an apostate, he's no longer tied to the Circle by his own being. If he still holds contacts in the Circle and is talking with them, that's another thing.
I assumed that the evidence was such a note. Or notes.
There isn't anything implicating the Mage Underground as still having connections in the Circle. By Act 3, the remnants' priority is getting those that are already apostates out of Kirkwall, as they no longer have the leadership or manpower necessary to coordinate efforts into the Gallows to rescue more Mages.
Cut Cullen a break, I don't care for him, but I doubt anyone could walk away from what he experienced and still have his initial attitude towards Mages.
I'm not chastising him. I'm simply saying he does have an extreme view towards Mages during DAII -- which even the game cites as true, as it's the reason Meredith made him Knight-Captain. His views and experiences mirrored her own. Among Kirkwall's Templars, he's a moderate.
Outside, however, he's an extremist.
Hopefully, since he's seen the absolute worst of both sides along with the weight of a couple thousand of Mages' lives -- men, women, and children -- being slaughtered for a crime they had nothing to do with on his conscience, he'll be a more ideal form of a Templar.
Someone who knows what they have to do, but tries to get along with the Mages, help them, and knows where "Vigilance" enters the stages of "Oppression".
Wait, so now we're taking what the journal and codexes say to hold truth?
The journal is explicitly written in a third person omniscient viewpoint, saying "You have been tasked with killing Meredith's deathsquad, consisting of Templar zealots she hand-picked to "purge" Mage-sympathizers".
When it says "You have done X/You're going to do X", that's completely different from it saying "I just did X".
Also, I never talked about the codexes in that post.
Was it? Well, it didn't have Orsino at the head either.
Meredith took control of the Circle in 9:21 Dragon unofficially -- officially, it was in 9:23 Dragon.
We learn that Orsino took the role of First Enchanter as early as 9:26 Dragon -- but possibly earlier, and he may have even been First Enchanter during Guylian's term -- and that when Meredith took charge she immediately began instituting anti-Mage policies.
It's clear that Orsino was never the problem -- more so when one reads the Staff of Violation codex, which paints him in being of a similar viewpoint as the first Mage to hold the First Enchanter title for the Gallows.
He even remarks that the lesson of the staff -- that the Mages and Templars should work together for the betterment of both sides -- is often forgotten and people dwell on its form, to his lament. And based on its introduction, it may have been a note to Quentin given the 'Old Friend' moniker.
So if he's talking about how Casimira had to fight the Templars who were one step away from calling for the RoA/Tranquility on the Mages and how he wishes the lesson of Mages and Templars working together was remembered more then the form of the staff... then Orsino is not the "villain" he's often branded as.
Meredith took control of her rank before Orsino ever did, from what we know, and began causing problems immediately. Kirkwall's Circle was fine before her.
Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 05 décembre 2012 - 04:24 .
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