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[samgrave]

I always throught that the story concerning Morrigan's possible child was left unresolved in DA:Origin, and the matter was not even touched upon in DA II do my great dismay. Is there any chance we will finally get to see the resolution to this loose end in DA III? If not in the main plot, then at the very least in a passing reference made by other charachters, or in a lore book found somewhere along one's adventures.

[UrgentArchengel]

That's a good question. It's my warden's kid too. I just like to know if my cheating on my beloved Leliana was worth it besides being the only Grey Warden to survive killing an archdemon, and fighting side by side with King Alistair.

[Robhuzz]

We got the Witch Hunt DLC. That was probably all we're going to get. Because the existence of the child is not canon (and so far BioWare has denied it being made canon) there's no way to make the child an important part of a future DA game since not everyone will have it in their game.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 18 novembre 2012 - 03:56 .

[VanDraegon]

Highly unlikely.

The Mage/Templar war has to play out to a resolution first. The Old God Child story. if they ever address it, is going to be down the road a ways first. That is a story line for a complete game. Personally i wouldnt expect to see it resolved until another DA addresses a Blight. If even then. Seems pretty unlikely.

Modifié par VanDraegon, 18 novembre 2012 - 03:59 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

It would depend on whether Morrigan herself appears (this is why, I believe, this choice wasn't in DA2). Since Morrigan is most likely going to be in DA3 in some form, then yes, I'm guessing the Dark Ritual subplot is going to come to some form of resolution. (Though it's worth noting that it was an optional decision, so it can't be all that significant in terms of how it affects DA3.)

[Bfler]

The OGB could also be a possible solution in the war between mages and templars. Those who did the ritual would have one more alternative to resolve the conflict.

[Potato Cat]

Maybe not resolved, but I think they said Morrigan's story will be continued and the OGB will definitely not exist if her offer for the DR was refused.

[samgrave]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

It would depend on whether Morrigan herself appears (this is why, I believe, this choice wasn't in DA2). Since Morrigan is most likely going to be in DA3 in some form, then yes, I'm guessing the Dark Ritual subplot is going to come to some form of resolution. (Though it's worth noting that it was an optional decision, so it can't be all that significant in terms of how it affects DA3.)

True, but as we learned from ME, choices don't always matter, things have a way of happening no matter how hard to try to fight against them. The identity of the father would not necessarily be delved into to any greater extent, just the fact that Morrigan has a child and whatplans she has for the Old God child. Hypothetically, she could always have seduced Riordan or (in secret) Alistair/Loghairn in case the warden rejected her "offer". Or she might have found another warden somewhere else after the final battle and had a child that way.


Still, I think the plot was haning to much in the air for it to be considered resolved by any stretch of the imagination, even with the Witch Hunt DLC, which in my opinion did the opposite of resolvning the matter, but rather added more loose ends.  

[esper]

The child is maximum a teenager, if not only 10 years old (depending how long da:i spans). What does people want Morrigan's son to do exactly? Ask to bring him school books so she can teach him his letter. Have him kidnapping other childs to play with (if it has to be evil).

I think we should at least give the kid a chance to grow the bloody hell up.

[jmadsen]

I do hope so, would be awesome.

[Androme]

 Well, BioWare did say some plot threads will be closed in DA3, hopefully Morrigan/Flemeth/Warden(?) is one of them.

[AntiChri5]

It is too big to be handled as a minor subplot, but too optional to be a big deal on which a game is focused.

Don't expect much on it ever again.

[Bfler]

esper wrote...

The child is maximum a teenager, if not only 10 years old (depending how long da:i spans). What does people want Morrigan's son to do exactly? Ask to bring him school books so she can teach him his letter. Have him kidnapping other childs to play with (if it has to be evil).

I think we should at least give the kid a chance to grow the bloody hell up.

It is not a pure human child. In fantasy stories such extraordinary beings often do some kind of metamorphosis.

Modifié par Bfler, 18 novembre 2012 - 04:57 .

[esper]

Bfler wrote...

esper wrote...

The child is maximum a teenager, if not only 10 years old (depending how long da:i spans). What does people want Morrigan's son to do exactly? Ask to bring him school books so she can teach him his letter. Have him kidnapping other childs to play with (if it has to be evil).

I think we should at least give the kid a chance to grow the bloody hell up.

It is not a pure human child. In fantasy stories such extraordinary beeings often do some kind of metamorphosis.

Well, Morrigan still had to give birth to it, so it had to be some human at some kind for that to be possible. The body is still human, I am not buying that it should grow up physcially/mentally so must faster. (Perhaps mentally do to the soul, but...)
Or and how do we know that the child wouldn't just turn into another Flemeth shapeshifter?

[VanDraegon]

Androme wrote...

 Well, BioWare did say some plot threads will be closed in DA3, hopefully Morrigan/Flemeth/Warden(?) is one of them.

I think there would be a small chance of any Marrigan plotline being closed. Just too much story there, imo. Flemeth i think is power that shapes and influences the world and will be around the DA universe as long as it is around.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

OGB can be possibly:

Human Warden's Child
Elf Warden's Child
Dwarf Warden's Child
Loghain's Child
Alistair's Child

Unless his 100% morrigan clone but male, it'll raise many questions of why he looks a certain way.

Modifié par DarkKnightHolmes, 18 novembre 2012 - 05:03 .

[Bfler]

esper wrote...

Well, Morrigan still had to give birth to it, so it had to be some human at some kind for that to be possible. The body is still human, I am not buying that it should grow up physcially/mentally so must faster. (Perhaps mentally do to the soul, but...)

Watch some movies with the fact I mentioned. There we have an human looking baby at first, which then has rapid growth or transforms/ascends into something else.

But it is only a speculation on my side. Could also be a normal human/elf/dwarf lifeform.
If you would have asked me after Origins, before Bioware's artisitc visions started, I would have assumed it is the next evil foe, maybe the dragon overlord, and we have to slay him.

Modifié par Bfler, 18 novembre 2012 - 05:20 .

[Heimdall]

The only way the child could serve a significant role is if there is some alternative being to take his place should the Warden have chosen not to take the Dark Ritual. If that were true, and the difference between the OGB and the alternative was much more than a skin swap, it would be quite nice to have resolution.

[esper]

Bfler wrote...

esper wrote...

Well, Morrigan still had to give birth to it, so it had to be some human at some kind for that to be possible. The body is still human, I am not buying that it should grow up physcially/mentally so must faster. (Perhaps mentally do to the soul, but...)

Look some movies with the fact I mentioned. There we have an human looking baby at first, which then has rapid growth or transforms/ascends into something else.

But it is only a speculation on my side. Could also be a normal human/elf/dwarf lifeform.
If you would have asked me after Origins, before Bioware's artisitc visions started, I would have assumed it will become an evil foe, maybe the dragon overlord and we will have to slay him.

I have never liked, believed that kind of movies and thought their plot silly. If the body is human, it will keep being human. This child is not a half dragonbreed, the max half it physically is are half dwarf which develops into, I don't know what, Sandal? (Half elf is human). I guess it is just one area where I won't/can't suspend my belief.

I have always believed him to become something like Flemeth from the end of da:o or foreward. I don't see what would be attracting by fighting the same dragon soul, again.

[Ash Wind]

While I would not expect any type of definitive 'resolution' I would expect there to be an aspect of the upcoming game to include Morrigan. The Devs have repeatedly said her story isn't over, and she will only appear in Games.

As far as the OGB goes, it probably won't (and shouldn't be) as big or important as some people want it to be, because there were other ways to end the blight that didn't include doing the Dark Ritual.

[Heimdall]

Ash Wind wrote...

While I would not expect any type of definitive 'resolution' I would expect there to be an aspect of the upcoming game to include Morrigan. The Devs have repeatedly said her story isn't over, and she will only appear in Games.

As far as the OGB goes, it probably won't (and shouldn't be) as big or important as some people want it to be, because there were other ways to end the blight that didn't include doing the Dark Ritual.

What if there were an alternative to fill a similar but sufficiently differentiated role?

[BouncyFrag]

I remember thinking how amazing it would be when we finally find out what happened with the OGB after finishing DA:O. I naively thought that such a big in-game decision would lead to palpable consequences in DA2. We didn't get any of that in the sequel and I doubt we ever will. Mass Effect also had big choices in it such as the fate of the Rachni queen, but in ME3 your ME decision only really effected your war assets and story wise was only slightly different.

In creating a large rpg I understand how having big decisions effecting other games can be taxing on the game developers, but that was when I thought Bioware games where the pinnacle of choice and consequence. I'll be pleasantly surprised if I am proven wrong, but other than 'pie in the sky' wishes for DA3, I don't want to set myself up for another disappointment. Again, I understand the challenge of implementing big consequences for 'our' choices. I just had higher expectations but those are now gone.

Modifié par BouncyFrag, 18 novembre 2012 - 05:55 .

[Ash Wind]

Lord Aesir wrote...

Ash Wind wrote...

While I would not expect any type of definitive 'resolution' I would expect there to be an aspect of the upcoming game to include Morrigan. The Devs have repeatedly said her story isn't over, and she will only appear in Games.

As far as the OGB goes, it probably won't (and shouldn't be) as big or important as some people want it to be, because there were other ways to end the blight that didn't include doing the Dark Ritual.

What if there were an alternative to fill a similar but sufficiently differentiated role?

Personally I would almost guarantee that whatever relevance the OBG turns out to have, there will be an alternate route available for those who didn't do the Dark Ritual.

I'm not saying it will be meaningless or unimportant, I fully expect an interesting storyline, I'm a big Morrigan fan and  have an interest in seeing it play out. I just think some have blown its potential out of proportion, like those who wanted the next PC to be the OBG.

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

Robhuzz wrote...

We got the Witch Hunt DLC. That was probably all we're going to get. Because the existence of the child is not canon (and so far BioWare has denied it being made canon) there's no way to make the child an important part of a future DA game since not everyone will have it in their game.

Why not make it a side-quest, available to all the good boys and girls who bought and played the DLC?

Even if they never properly resolve the Morrigan child story, I'm curious to know what the dimension the Aluvian links to is? Is it the Black City? Is it something even more mysterious?

Let's assume that the child is not important, e.g. I have Warden who romanced Morrigan but rejected the Dark Ritual and had Alistair die instead. The child is mentioned in Witch Hunt, but I assume he is just an ordinary baby boy, in this case with two human parents.

To me, god-child, ordinary child, or no child at all, the important thing is Morrigan's discovery of the Aluvian and her journeying into whatever lies beyond it, whether she entered that realm injured or unscathed, with or without the Warden.

It would be nice to know what, if anything, BioWare has planned for what Witch Hunt was teasing. Is it now an aborted story-arc? Even if it somehow figures into DA III, nobody at BioWare's going to share that sort of info at this point in the game's development.

[gw2005]

Yes if DA series is a trilogy, which it isn't, which makes that unlikely, when DA4, 5, 6 might still be coming.