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[Heimdall]

There's no reason for us to go down the path of coming up with contrived means to have the OGB exist in non-DR versions of Thedas.

Consider the possibility that the OGB has a role in whatever plan Morrigan and Flemeth are working on. Perhaps that role can be filled by a new character created or recruited by Morrigan for that purpose, some sort of unique abomination perhaps. Thus we'd be able to have a modified version of the OGB plot occur in all versions of the game and avoid disregarding people's choices regarding the DR.

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

The child, whether it is OGB or an ordinary baby (yes that is also possible) can also not exist at all depending upon choices made in DA:O. What I think should be explored in future titles is the plane of existence which lies beyond the Eluvian. The OGB should never be more than a side-plot that supports a plot which answers the question of what Morrigan found through the looking glass.

[Metalunatic]

Here's hoping.

[Sol Downer]

I'll say this only once more.

Not everybody has Alistar in their game. Not everybody has Loghain. Not everybody has Anora. Not everybody has Leliana. Not everybody has Wynne, or Oghren, or even Morrigan! Not everybody's playthrough is similar in the least so "canon" does NOT matter! If it did that means the game would just be a set story! That also means that NOBODY would have anything in their game because "nothing was canon"...understood? On topic, I'd preferred to see the kid.

Modifié par Ultimashade, 24 novembre 2012 - 06:30 .

[samgrave]

There are murmurrs of Morrigan being in DA III. Now, I feel it would be a cop out if they completely left out the part about OGB and pretended like nothing happened if they are to include Morrigan.

[TJPags]

samgrave wrote...

There are murmurrs of Morrigan being in DA III. Now, I feel it would be a cop out if they completely left out the part about OGB and pretended like nothing happened if they are to include Morrigan.

Except the OGB is an optional occurrence, so I guess you only want them to pretend nothing happened in some of the games?

[Angrywolves]

I hope not. Try to resolve it in DA4, if there is one.

[SongstressKitsune]

I'd rather wait; the Mage-Templar conflict and the Chantry falling apart is big enough for DA3. We'll be witnessing a change in the social order of Thedas, no matter how the war goes. Also, the OGB will be like...ten?

I feel like if the OGB becomes significant, the writers will find a way to substitute someone else for him in those playthroughs where he doesn't exist. Or perhaps there will be some kind of consequence for his nonexistence; that would certainly be interesting!

Modifié par SongstressKitsune, 24 mars 2013 - 01:54 .

[dragondreamer]

The Wolf Man wrote...

Someone jog my memory - if you choose not to do the ritual with Morrigan, what does her epilogue say? She's still pregnant, isn't she? I can't recall. If the pregnancy happens regardless of the Warden's decision, then it must be important right? Hopefully important enough for the third game to reveal quite a lot about what became of the child.

If Morrigan has sex with the male Warden at any point in the game, she's pregnant with his normal child at the end if she doesn't do the dark ritual.  If the player does the ritual, she's pregnant with the OGB.  If she doesn't have sex with the Warden or doesn't do the ritual, then she's not pregnant in the epilogue.  

[dragondreamer]

 Yeah...  I really want Morrigan's child to be significant, I'd especially love for it to be a PC.  But I can see the big problems in making it important to the story if it may not exist.  

I'm hoping it isn't entirely swept under the rug though.  My Warden wasn't in a romance with Morrigan, but he did the ritual, and the fate of the child is a big unfinished business for him.

[9TailsFox]

I hope Bioware don't touch Morrigan. She and Warden traveled through the mirror and liven happily ever. Good completed ending for me.

[Solmanian]

Unless Morrigan is behind the mage-templar war (unlikely), I don't any reason why it could or should be part of the game...

[Solmanian]

9TailsFox wrote...

I hope Bioware don't touch Morrigan. She and Warden traveled through the mirror and liven happily ever. Good completed ending for me.

Unless the warden stabbed her. And than it's one of THOSE stories.

[AstraDrakkar]

My guess is no.

[Absafraginlootly]

I supposed it depends on what you mean by resolved, and on how important you think the OGB needs to be. 
I took the DR in my first playthrough but I didn't feel any lack of resolve to the game, I never expected to see Morrigan or the child again, I wasn't bothered by the fact and was quite surprised when the Witch Hunt DLC came out. Mind you, I wasn't thinking of Dragon Age as a series then, just as a single game.

I don't think we'll see the OGB in DA:I, we may see Morrigan, and her dialogue may be different depending on whether the Dark Ritual happened or not (perhaps we'll find out what she named him?), but I don't think we'll see the OGB. Mostly I think this because he's what? 10? So if he does show up he probably won't do much.

I expect he'll show up eventually, though probably not as part of the main plot of a game, which I'm okay with. They could have him in a secondary or side quest with his role being done by someone else if he doesn't exsist (like Morrigan either sending her son to do something, or taking a "if you want something done right" approach), or something similar but in an Awakening type expansion.

I don't think he should ever be the main antagonist like Meredith, Loghain or the Archdemon. Their role is too importent to give it to someone who has to be replaced in some saves. But of course I don't mind if he's just a mage with some unique abilities and an intersting perspective, anyone who expects him to be some amazingly powerful (as if mages aren't amazingly powerful enough) thingamajig with god powers whos plans are the center of an entire game is probably going to be dissapointed.

I also don't think he'll ever be the PC but that doesn't mean he has to be against the PC. He could be a companion character kinda like Bethany/Carver was. If your imported warden didn't do the ritual then you get an alternate mage character but if your warden did then you get the OGB, possibly after he kills the altenate character thus explaining why you don't get both. Talking to him would certainly be very interesting.

Those are my thoughts on it anyway.

[fchopin]

I did not see a Morrigan child in my game so there is nothing to be resolved.

[Pheonix57]

To all those saying that it can't be significant in DA3, let me remind you of something optional in ME2 that greatly affected ME3:

*spoiler* *spoiler* *spoiler*

In ME2 you have the option of saving the Geth heretics, or destroying them, and if you don't destroy them, then you can't make peace between the Quarians and Geth in ME3. That moment is a huge plot point, which can even affect dialogue in the ending. So let's not say that optional choices don't ever change anything.

[Newschmoo]

If you import a game with the OGB as part of your original save, then I would like to see something mentioned or at least have it impact on your gameplay in someway.

I'm sure that Flemeth will show up in DA3, so I like to hope that she would have something to say.

[LPPrince]

Pheonix57 wrote...

To all those saying that it can't be significant in DA3, let me remind you of something optional in ME2 that greatly affected ME3:

*spoiler* *spoiler* *spoiler*

In ME2 you have the option of saving the Geth heretics, or destroying them, and if you don't destroy them, then you can't make peace between the Quarians and Geth in ME3. That moment is a huge plot point, which can even affect dialogue in the ending. So let's not say that optional choices don't ever change anything.

Umm, actually...

I saved the Geth Heretics and was still able to make peace. So look for another example?

[Sejborg]

I don't know.

[LPPrince]

As for the OGB, what would he look like anyway? We know he's male, that much is certain.

But The Warden could've been a human, elf, or dwarf in DAO.

Humans and elves having kids with a human will always result in kids that look human, but what about dwarves?

Can they just make the kid look human in that case? I imagine so, but I'm not thinking too hard about this right now.

[Harle Cerulean]

LPPrince wrote...

Pheonix57 wrote...

To all those saying that it can't be significant in DA3, let me remind you of something optional in ME2 that greatly affected ME3:

*spoiler* *spoiler* *spoiler*

In ME2 you have the option of saving the Geth heretics, or destroying them, and if you don't destroy them, then you can't make peace between the Quarians and Geth in ME3. That moment is a huge plot point, which can even affect dialogue in the ending. So let's not say that optional choices don't ever change anything.

Umm, actually...

I saved the Geth Heretics and was still able to make peace. So look for another example?

Yeah the difference between saving and destroying the geth heretics is in how many War Assets the geth and quarian forces are worth.  If you rewrote them, the geth forces are worth more and the quarian forces are worth less; if you destroyed them, the geth forces are worth less and the quarian forces are worth more.  (The logic being that the rewritten geth create more casualties in the quarian fleet, whereas if the geth's numbers aren't bolstered by the heretics, the quarians inflict more damage to them and take less themselves.)

[Newschmoo]

Not sure if this is a good example re ME - I found out that saving Wrex in ME1 could have an impact on the ending of Priority Tuchanka in ME3 in terms of a particular character (don't want to give away any spoilers).