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[13Dannyboy13]

One thing I wonder, if DA:I takes place right after the events of DA2, the child will only be 10 years old, not sure how much of an impact the kid would have on the actual story. Sure you could include the kid in the story, but I don't see it being much more than a side note unless the kid is some sort of superhuman because of the dragon soul.

[dragondreamer]

13Dannyboy13 wrote...

One thing I wonder, if DA:I takes place right after the events of DA2, the child will only be 10 years old, not sure how much of an impact the kid would have on the actual story. Sure you could include the kid in the story, but I don't see it being much more than a side note unless the kid is some sort of superhuman because of the dragon soul.

Morrigan took the child to another world via the Eluvian.  If time moves differently there, the child may be older than we think.

[King Cousland]

dragondreamer wrote...

13Dannyboy13 wrote...

One thing I wonder, if DA:I takes place right after the events of DA2, the child will only be 10 years old, not sure how much of an impact the kid would have on the actual story. Sure you could include the kid in the story, but I don't see it being much more than a side note unless the kid is some sort of superhuman because of the dragon soul.

Morrigan took the child to another world via the Eluvian.  If time moves differently there, the child may be older than we think.

We have absolutely no indication of where the Eluvian leads to, nor do we have any example of a place in Thedas (or beyond, for that matter) where time moves differently. Also, bear in mind that Morrigan would have been there as well, and she didn't exactly look to me like she'd aged 15+ years in the trailer. 

The Old God soul could of course give the boy abilities beyond his years, but I doubt we'd see physical changes to indicate he ages faster. 

I think it more likely he's just tucked away in the Orlesian court with his mother. 

[dragondreamer]

King Cousland wrote...

We have absolutely no indication of where the Eluvian leads to, nor do we have any example of a place in Thedas (or beyond, for that matter) where time moves differently.

To quote Morrigan when asked where the Eluvian leads:

"To another place, beyond this world and beyond the Fade. But this portal can only be used once more. Achieving even this much was... difficult."

The rest is just speculation, of course.

Also, bear in mind that Morrigan would have been there as well, and she didn't exactly look to me like she'd aged 15+ years in the trailer. 

True, but if she ages as well as her mother, who knows.  

[ladyiolanthe]

rapscallioness wrote...

But then...idk. What would the Wardens' reaction be? Toward the kid, I mean? Would they hunt the kid? If so, what would they do if they found him? I'm not so sure anymore that I trust the Wardens w/that info.

Agreed, rapscallioness! Everyone has their own agenda, including the various orders (Templars, Grey Wardens, etc.)  There were enough problems with the Grey Wardens in game to make my Warden seriously question them by the end of Awakening. For example, all the things we are not told before the Joining - the excuse of "no one would want to become a Grey Warden if they knew what it meant beforehand" becomes pretty flimsy when you learn about the Legion of the Dead while in the Deep Roads.

The Joining ritual itself is about as blood-magicky as anything in the game, so if you're of the opinion that blood magic is bad, well... you're out of luck. You just took part in a blood magic ritual.

Early on, Alistair mentions that there aren't many women in the Grey Wardens (if you play a female character). Later on, in a rather horrific sequence, you find out that Broodmothers are forcibly mutated human, elven, dwarven and qunari women, and also that Grey Wardens wander off into the Deep Roads when their time is up. I really have to wonder how many female Grey Wardens become Broodmothers when they go on their Calling. Female wardens have already begun the process when they survive their Joining. Is that maybe why the Grey Wardens don't take many women in?

Then in Awakening, a thinking Warden has to start questioning things even more, with all the sentient darkspawn plus the world mythology of the invasion of the Golden City, etc. I won't even bring in the stuff from the prequel novel, The Calling. 

Anyway... I don't feel that the Grey Wardens are as wonderfully awesome an organization as newly-met Alistair makes them out to be at the beginning of the game. I also don't think they are totally bad. It's all in the name, really: they're neither black nor white, but some sort of shade of grey, and that means some of the things they do are morally questionable. My 'canon' Warden certainly questions the organization.

I am not convinced that Morrigan's Old God Child is going to be a power for evil, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Wardens would hunt him down if they knew about him. After all, having an Old God wandering about the planet means that someday, there might be an Eighth Blight, and the Grey Wardens cannot allow that.

Modifié par ladyiolanthe, 20 juillet 2013 - 12:25 .

[Foolsfolly]

David Gaider wrote...

samgrave wrote...
Is there any chance we will finally get to see the resolution to this loose end in DA III? If not in the main plot, then at the very least in a passing reference made by other charachters, or in a lore book found somewhere along one's adventures.

Hmm. How can I put this?

The results of the Dark Ritual, if it occurred in DAO, will have more than a passing reference in DAI.

Beyond that, you shall have to wait and see.

Oh, you great big tease.

[ApuoH]

Well, that's great news. According to what David said, OGB could either make some impact to Morrigan's team(something like Sandal enchanting stuff or teaching you some cool skills), or even be possible companion. Yeah-yeah, i know, 10 years old and sh*t, but we really have no idea in what form we'll meet him. They could make him descent companion with some really easy explanation. Like after DA:O who would've thought that we will meet Flemeth such "young and beautifull" in DA2. lol. So age of the OGB isn't really a problem, imo.
I wanted so bad Morrigans(and OGB) story to continue\\finish.. Now we just have to wait bit more then one year.. no big deal.. really..

Modifié par ApuoH, 20 juillet 2013 - 12:43 .

[Urazz]

I think it really depends on when DA:I takes place. We probably won't see the child unless DA:I is like 5 years past DA2's ending at least. Otherwise, I'd at most just expect a cameo from him as a kid and nothing more.

[Giubba]

13Dannyboy13 wrote...

One thing I wonder, if DA:I takes place right after the events of DA2, the child will only be 10 years old, not sure how much of an impact the kid would have on the actual story. Sure you could include the kid in the story, but I don't see it being much more than a side note unless the kid is some sort of superhuman because of the dragon soul.

Cannot find the quote but BW stated that Inquisition take place after a year Cassandra finish Varric interrogation.

[Angrywolves]

The child is in Orlais not in another world.
May see dlc but don't expect to see him in the main game.

[Spedfrom]

David Gaider wrote...

samgrave wrote...
Is there any chance we will finally get to see the resolution to this loose end in DA III? If not in the main plot, then at the very least in a passing reference made by other charachters, or in a lore book found somewhere along one's adventures.

Hmm. How can I put this?

The results of the Dark Ritual, if it occurred in DAO, will have more than a passing reference in DAI.

Beyond that, you shall have to wait and see.

I supposed that at the end of DAI's story, that tangent will have to be resolved similarly to not having done the Dark Ritual, no matter how exciting the "more-than-a-passing-reference" might be, as there will certainly be more games in the series and it's not quite feasible to go forward with a plot that includes the OGB/Dark Ritual result and one that doesnt.

That said, I will then keep my choice of not having done the Dark Ritual and will play DAI as such. Which is to mean, if the import feature is similar to Mass Effect Genesis comics, I will choose the "no DR done" option. If we actually import the save, I'm already all set.

Modifié par Spedfrom, 20 juillet 2013 - 02:11 .

[LPPrince]

It will have been FIVE YEARS since that decision was made(at least for those who bought and played DAO at launch).

Five yeeeears.

Having to ignore DA2(as far as the OGB goes), it will have been a looong time since we've heard anything about the OGB, and now that decision we made all that time way back when is going to pay off or come back to bite us.

Could be a big deal or amount to nothing much, but I'm hoping the Dark Ritual decision leads to a big significant change in the DA:I plot or whatever have you, unlike the Mass Effect franchise where most choices made just ended up being reduced to affecting numbers.

Hope this goes well.

[azarhal]

Spedfrom wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

samgrave wrote...
Is there any chance we will finally get to see the resolution to this loose end in DA III? If not in the main plot, then at the very least in a passing reference made by other charachters, or in a lore book found somewhere along one's adventures.

Hmm. How can I put this?

The results of the Dark Ritual, if it occurred in DAO, will have more than a passing reference in DAI.

Beyond that, you shall have to wait and see.

I supposed that at the end of DAI's story, that tangent will have to be resolved similarly to not having done the Dark Ritual, no matter how exciting the "more-than-a-passing-reference" might be, as there will certainly be more games in the series and it's not quite feasible to go forward with a plot that includes the OGB/Dark Ritual result and one that doesnt.

While Gaider said that the Dark Ritual will have more than a passing reference, it doesn't mean it will be a game changing event...

[Angrywolves]

Probably not in DAI but hopefully in some future game if there are any.

[Kendra Cousland]

David Gaider wrote...
The results of the Dark Ritual, if it occurred in DAO, will have more than a passing reference in DAI.

Great. I was hoping for this. One of the more interesting story archs.

I also hope that the arch(s) from your own books will be at least noted. I am talking about Maric and Fiona.

[WardenWade]

David Gaider wrote...

samgrave wrote...
Is there any chance we will finally get to see the resolution to this loose end in DA III? If not in the main plot, then at the very least in a passing reference made by other charachters, or in a lore book found somewhere along one's adventures.

Hmm. How can I put this?

The results of the Dark Ritual, if it occurred in DAO, will have more than a passing reference in DAI.

Beyond that, you shall have to wait and see.

Hero of Ferelden business.  I like that however I can get it 

Modifié par WardenWade, 22 juillet 2013 - 07:47 .

[elvici]

David Gaider wrote...

samgrave wrote...
Is there any chance we will finally get to see the resolution to this loose end in DA III? If not in the main plot, then at the very least in a passing reference made by other charachters, or in a lore book found somewhere along one's adventures.

Hmm. How can I put this?

The results of the Dark Ritual, if it occurred in DAO, will have more than a passing reference in DAI.

Beyond that, you shall have to wait and see.

Tease.  

[LPPrince]

Isolde-"Who iz dis mahn, teasahn!?"

Modifié par LPPrince, 21 juillet 2013 - 05:36 .

[Eternal Phoenix]

David Gaider wrote...

samgrave wrote...
Is there any chance we will finally get to see the resolution to this loose end in DA III? If not in the main plot, then at the very least in a passing reference made by other charachters, or in a lore book found somewhere along one's adventures.

Hmm. How can I put this?

The results of the Dark Ritual, if it occurred in DAO, will have more than a passing reference in DAI.

Beyond that, you shall have to wait and see.

So...

Nope?

Not that it bothers me. Kill Morrigan off and disregard the OGB. I'll be pleased with that.

[ames4u]

OGB isn't canon as i'm sure some people have mentioned so they'll probably allude or skirt the issue entirely....or retcon it. I want to know what the deal is with the OGB and what Morrigan did with him while she was playing Alice through the looking glass with her manwarden in tow.

Modifié par ames4u, 22 juillet 2013 - 12:28 .

[THEFRIGGINDOOMGUY!]

David Gaider wrote...

samgrave wrote...
Is there any chance we will finally get to see the resolution to this loose end in DA III? If not in the main plot, then at the very least in a passing reference made by other charachters, or in a lore book found somewhere along one's adventures.

Hmm. How can I put this?

The results of the Dark Ritual, if it occurred in DAO, will have more than a passing reference in DAI.

Beyond that, you shall have to wait and see.

I hope you are honest about this, people WILL remember what you said. We were also promised that our decisions would matter in Mass Effect 3 and that the ending would not be a simple choice of 3 actions...Ironically, the ending was a glorified version of those choices.

[SeismicGravy]

David Gaider wrote...

samgrave wrote...
Is there any chance we will finally get to see the resolution to this loose end in DA III? If not in the main plot, then at the very least in a passing reference made by other charachters, or in a lore book found somewhere along one's adventures.

Hmm. How can I put this?

The results of the Dark Ritual, if it occurred in DAO, will have more than a passing reference in DAI.

Beyond that, you shall have to wait and see.

Wow.

That's both awesome and depressing at the same time.  Awesome that it means that story arc is going to get fleshed out, and depressing because I have to wait 1.25 years minimum to see it.

This calls for an Aliens reference.

Modifié par SeismicGravy, 22 juillet 2013 - 12:10 .

[Ieldra]

SeismicGravy wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

samgrave wrote...
Is there any chance we will finally get to see the resolution to this loose end in DA III? If not in the main plot, then at the very least in a passing reference made by other charachters, or in a lore book found somewhere along one's adventures.

Hmm. How can I put this?

The results of the Dark Ritual, if it occurred in DAO, will have more than a passing reference in DAI.

Beyond that, you shall have to wait and see.

Wow.

That's both awesome and depressing at the same time.  Awesome that it means that story arc is going to get fleshed out, and depressing because I have to wait 1.25 years minimum to see it.

Indeed it is. I'm looking forward to this and can barely contain my impatience

Morrigan says "some things in this world are worth preserving" when you ask her about her reasons for the ritual. That's probably not nearly the whole story, but I hope the outcome doesn't prove her wrong.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 22 juillet 2013 - 12:33 .

[David Gaider]

Octavian the Emperor wrote...
I hope you are honest about this, people WILL remember what you said. We were also promised that our decisions would matter in Mass Effect 3 and that the ending would not be a simple choice of 3 actions...Ironically, the ending was a glorified version of those choices.

I guess that really depends on what it is you think I'm promising. I take no responsibility for your headcanon.

[ilikesocks]

I'd rather not deal with Morrigan's 'demon baby' as Alistair called it. No matter how old he is in DA:I. If he was raised by Morrigan, that's scary enough. :/