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[MegaSovereign]

10/10

Would bang.

[Maxster_]

KingZayd wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

0/10
You stated that it is not real - prove that.
You already lost that debate, when you stated that you cut out whatever you don't like.

0/10
You stated that is is real - prove that.
You already lost the debate.

KingZayd wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

Yesmar wrote...

But of course if you really want me to say what will disprove IT, a definitive epilogue will disprove IT as a theory.
Mass effect 4 will also be capable of disproving IT.

But you already knew that.

Ok, fine.
1st already happen with EC.
2nd means that ME3 have no ending, and sold deliberately without ending.

So, IT is disproven.

To be fair, there's no proof the EC epilogue is real.

...

So, you failed to prove your baseless assertion, that started this meaningless debate, and now you are telling me that i lost debate, because you can't prove your point.
Riight.
Your credibility is zero

Modifié par Maxster_, 20 novembre 2012 - 02:50 .

[KingZayd]

Maxster_ wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

0/10
You stated that it is not real - prove that.
You already lost that debate, when you stated that you cut out whatever you don't like.

0/10
You stated that is is real - prove that.
You already lost the debate.

KingZayd wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

Yesmar wrote...

But of course if you really want me to say what will disprove IT, a definitive epilogue will disprove IT as a theory.
Mass effect 4 will also be capable of disproving IT.

But you already knew that.

Ok, fine.
1st already happen with EC.
2nd means that ME3 have no ending, and sold deliberately without ending.

So, IT is disproven.

To be fair, there's no proof the EC epilogue is real.

...

So, you failed to prove your baseless assertion, that stated this meaningless debate, and now you are telling me that i lost debate, because you can't prove your point.
Your credibility is zero

I said there is no proof the EC epilogue is real. I don't think that's a baseless assumption.

You haven't been able to prove it's real.

So I repeat:
0/10
You stated that is is real - prove that.
You already lost the debate

[Maxster_]

KingZayd wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

0/10
You stated that it is not real - prove that.
You already lost that debate, when you stated that you cut out whatever you don't like.

0/10
You stated that is is real - prove that.
You already lost the debate.

KingZayd wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

Yesmar wrote...

But of course if you really want me to say what will disprove IT, a definitive epilogue will disprove IT as a theory.
Mass effect 4 will also be capable of disproving IT.

But you already knew that.

Ok, fine.
1st already happen with EC.
2nd means that ME3 have no ending, and sold deliberately without ending.

So, IT is disproven.

To be fair, there's no proof the EC epilogue is real.

...

So, you failed to prove your baseless assertion, that stated this meaningless debate, and now you are telling me that i lost debate, because you can't prove your point.
Your credibility is zero

I said there is no proof the EC epilogue is real. I don't think that's a baseless assumption.

You haven't been able to prove it's real.

So I repeat:
0/10
You stated that is is real - prove that.
You already lost the debate

Bwahahaha.
You are so pathetic.
You can't prove your assertion, so i lost the debate. Suure.

Modifié par Maxster_, 20 novembre 2012 - 02:53 .

[KingZayd]

Maxster_ wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

0/10
You stated that it is not real - prove that.
You already lost that debate, when you stated that you cut out whatever you don't like.

0/10
You stated that is is real - prove that.
You already lost the debate.

KingZayd wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

Yesmar wrote...

But of course if you really want me to say what will disprove IT, a definitive epilogue will disprove IT as a theory.
Mass effect 4 will also be capable of disproving IT.

But you already knew that.

Ok, fine.
1st already happen with EC.
2nd means that ME3 have no ending, and sold deliberately without ending.

So, IT is disproven.

To be fair, there's no proof the EC epilogue is real.

...

So, you failed to prove your baseless assertion, that stated this meaningless debate, and now you are telling me that i lost debate, because you can't prove your point.
Your credibility is zero

I said there is no proof the EC epilogue is real. I don't think that's a baseless assumption.

You haven't been able to prove it's real.

So I repeat:
0/10
You stated that is is real - prove that.
You already lost the debate

Bwahahaha.
You are so pathetic.
You can't prove your assertion, so i lost the debate. Suure.

I could say the same about your assertion. So yes.

[ld1449]

Are we still at this?

And I thought I couldn't let the bone go sometimes.

[MegaSovereign]

ld1449 wrote...

Are we still at this?

And I thought I couldn't let the bone go sometimes.

The ME3 endings....they are endless.

[Maxster_]

MegaSovereign wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Are we still at this?

And I thought I couldn't let the bone go sometimes.

The ME3 endings....they are endless.

Endless endings.. This concept have weight.

Modifié par Maxster_, 20 novembre 2012 - 03:09 .

[MegaSovereign]

Maxster_ wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Are we still at this?

And I thought I couldn't let the bone go sometimes.

The ME3 endings....they are endless.

Endless endings.. This concept have weight.

Yea it was a joke. Spare me the wall o' texts please lol.

[Maxster_]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Are we still at this?

And I thought I couldn't let the bone go sometimes.

The ME3 endings....they are endless.

Endless endings.. This concept have weight.

Yea it was a joke. Spare me the wall o' texts please lol.

No! You must suffer!

*wall of text*

Modifié par Maxster_, 20 novembre 2012 - 03:17 .

[Varus Praetor]

arial wrote...

 people here always say the endings are the worst thing in gaming hsitory,  although I highly disagree (I can think of a few games from the mid-late 90s that were worse), it could have been way worse.

Example of a worse ending for ME3:

After fireing the Crucible big Letters appear on the screen saying "Simulation Completed", you then see Shepard exit a cryo pod, Anderson comes over and says "You did good son, welcome to N7".

This would have been much worse.


So just be thankful the ending was not as bad as that.

(P.S. I think the worst ending goes to "Outlaws")

Still better than the real endings.

[SpamBot2000]

How many other endings you know that ruined something as great as the Mass Effect series?

[Yesmar]

Maxster_ wrote....

Yesmar wrote...

It's because it is part of the theory, generally I think you have a hard time telling the difference.
It's understandable, but I think you should read more Fan fiction to get an idea of how they're very different.

You are already stated, that your "theory" is not falsifiable, and thus not a theory.

No where was it ever mentioned by me that IT can not be disproven.
I said again and again that it can be disproven and even told you how it can be disproven.
Nothing provided so far is strong enough to render IT as no longer a valid theory on what happened.

Maxster_ wrote...
ITers, for unknown(well known actually) reasons, decided that "breath scene" is real, and Catalyst scene and epilogues are not.

Let's end it once and for all.
I'm not an ITer, I don't believe in it and don't think it will happen(as I already said to you previously).The scene's have a meaning as in Shepard on the citadel and the conversation with the Tim and the Catalyst represent the battle within his mind.The breath scene represents Shepard fighting off Indoctrination, it's all part of the theory.Personally I think you're uneducated on IT and what a theory is as a whole.


Seen as you keep bringing on the same points that have already been answered to death.
IT can be disproven, here I said it.
IT can be disproven.

Again, personally I think you're trolling and intentionally playing dumb.
Or maybe you're just ignorantly hating on something you don't like, ignoring logic.
I know people despise IT but at least use your brain when arguing against it, come up with good points.
You can't say IT is not a theory as that makes no sense, it sounds like you're trying to annoy ITers by saying they're making up fan fiction.
Which is another problem of yours, I'm not sure you know the difference.
Instead you should make good points as to why IT is not true and why it is not likely.

I'm surprised this is even an issue with some people.

Modifié par Yesmar, 20 novembre 2012 - 05:36 .

[Grubas]

One does not simply disprove IT.

[Maxster_]

Yesmar wrote...

Maxster_ wrote....

Yesmar wrote...

It's because it is part of the theory, generally I think you have a hard time telling the difference.
It's understandable, but I think you should read more Fan fiction to get an idea of how they're very different.

You are already stated, that your "theory" is not falsifiable, and thus not a theory.

No where was it ever mentioned by me that IT can not be disproven.
I said again and again that it can be disproven and even told you how it can be disproven.
Nothing provided so far is strong enough to render IT as no longer a valid theory on what happened.

This is actually fun. So, you say that nothing ever mentioned by you that IT can not be disproven.
And THEN saying it can not be disproved by everything what was provided. Like EAWare saying there will be no post-ending DLC, low quality of EAWare writing(z-movie grade) with ME3, actual nonsense of such business strategy(destroying their fanbase and damaging their reputation, to release "real" ending after year).

It seems to me, that you just contradicting yourself.

Maxster_ wrote...
ITers, for unknown(well known actually) reasons, decided that "breath scene" is real, and Catalyst scene and epilogues are not.

Let's end it once and for all.
I'm not an ITer, I don't believe in it and don't think it will happen(as I already said to you previously).The scene's have a meaning as in Shepard on the citadel and the conversation with the Tim and the Catalyst represent the battle within his mind.The breath scene represents Shepard fighting off Indoctrination, it's all part of the theory.Personally I think you're uneducated on IT and what a theory is as a whole.

And why should i waste time on nonsensical theories, that change to adapt for every real fact in that way, so they can not be disproven? 
Any shred of credibility(and actually almost none even at that time) which IT had - was already downed to absolute zero with EC.
It is fully like creationists or conspiracy theories.

That battle is nonsense, because reapers already won.

Seen as you keep bringing on the same points that have already been answered to death.
IT can be disproven, here I said it.
IT can be disproven.

Again, personally I think you're trolling and intentionally playing dumb.
Or maybe you're just ignorantly hating on something you don't like, ignoring logic.
I know people despise IT but at least use your brain when arguing against it, come up with good points.
You can't say IT is not a theory as that makes no sense, it sounds like you're trying to annoy ITers by saying they're making up fan fiction.
Which is another problem of yours, I'm not sure you know the difference.
Instead you should make good points as to why IT is not true and why it is not likely.

I'm surprised this is even an issue with some people.

IT is not a theory. Any fact that disproves the IT, is immediately disregarded by fanatics.
Seeing ME3(and ME2) garbage writing, why would anyone thought that EAWare is capable of such level of writing? It is clear that they are not, and they never were.

I asked you a question - what would disprove the IT? You answered that it is epilogue, and ME3 have an epilogue.
You just don't like epilogue, so it is false.
And that is perfect example, that nothing can disprove the IT for fanatics. Facts are just discarded, because they don't fit the IT.

[KingZayd]

Why are you still trying Maxster? You already lost

Modifié par KingZayd, 20 novembre 2012 - 06:55 .

[Grubas]

Maxster_ wrote...

IT is not a theory. Any fact that disproves the IT, is immediately disregarded by fanatics.

It's not disregarded by fanatics, it's infact disproved by the theory itself. You just havent paid attention. 

[Maxster_]

Grubas wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

IT is not a theory. Any fact that disproves the IT, is immediately disregarded by fanatics.

It's not disregarded by fanatics, it's infact disproved by the theory itself. You just havent paid attention. 

Good one

[Kunari801]

Neizd wrote...

Now:

If only Tali, one of three most loved characters (according to fanbase) didn't recieve a cheap, badly photoshoped 5 minut work instead of a in game model...

If all ME2 squadmates didn't recieve a short end of a stick...

If the fetch quest were more like ME2 where you land and explore/fight/interact with something...

If...a lot of ifs.

Like harbringer says: This is what we face - ME3 was not what a lot of people wanted it to be.

Well said! 

[Yesmar]

Maxster_ wrote...

Yesmar wrote...

Maxster_ wrote....

Yesmar wrote...

It's because it is part of the theory, generally I think you have a hard time telling the difference.
It's understandable, but I think you should read more Fan fiction to get an idea of how they're very different.

You are already stated, that your "theory" is not falsifiable, and thus not a theory.

No where was it ever mentioned by me that IT can not be disproven.
I said again and again that it can be disproven and even told you how it can be disproven.
Nothing provided so far is strong enough to render IT as no longer a valid theory on what happened.

This is actually fun. So, you say that nothing ever mentioned by you that IT can not be disproven.
And THEN saying it can not be disproved by everything what was provided. Like EAWare saying there will be no post-ending DLC, low quality of EAWare writing(z-movie grade) with ME3, actual nonsense of such business strategy(destroying their fanbase and damaging their reputation, to release "real" ending after year).

It seems to me, that you just contradicting yourself.

Maxster_ wrote...
ITers, for unknown(well known actually) reasons, decided that "breath scene" is real, and Catalyst scene and epilogues are not.

Let's end it once and for all.
I'm not an ITer, I don't believe in it and don't think it will happen(as I already said to you previously).The scene's have a meaning as in Shepard on the citadel and the conversation with the Tim and the Catalyst represent the battle within his mind.The breath scene represents Shepard fighting off Indoctrination, it's all part of the theory.Personally I think you're uneducated on IT and what a theory is as a whole.

And why should i waste time on nonsensical theories, that change to adapt for every real fact in that way, so they can not be disproven? 
Any shred of credibility(and actually almost none even at that time) which IT had - was already downed to absolute zero with EC.
It is fully like creationists or conspiracy theories.

That battle is nonsense, because reapers already won.

Seen as you keep bringing on the same points that have already been answered to death.
IT can be disproven, here I said it.
IT can be disproven.

Again, personally I think you're trolling and intentionally playing dumb.
Or maybe you're just ignorantly hating on something you don't like, ignoring logic.
I know people despise IT but at least use your brain when arguing against it, come up with good points.
You can't say IT is not a theory as that makes no sense, it sounds like you're trying to annoy ITers by saying they're making up fan fiction.
Which is another problem of yours, I'm not sure you know the difference.
Instead you should make good points as to why IT is not true and why it is not likely.

I'm surprised this is even an issue with some people.

IT is not a theory. Any fact that disproves the IT, is immediately disregarded by fanatics.
Seeing ME3(and ME2) garbage writing, why would anyone thought that EAWare is capable of such level of writing? It is clear that they are not, and they never were.

I asked you a question - what would disprove the IT? You answered that it is epilogue, and ME3 have an epilogue.
You just don't like epilogue, so it is false.
And that is perfect example, that nothing can disprove the IT for fanatics. Facts are just discarded, because they don't fit the IT.

It's pretty straight forward.

1) Nothing disproved IT as a possible outcome yet, it can however be disproven.
     It's that simple, a thick skulled person should understand that.
     I'm not contadicting myself, you're just acting silly and don't understand it.

2) It's sounds like theories make you butthurt for some reason, so you try to hate on them.
    

3) It's not dismissed, it just didn't provide anything to indicate IT as not being a possible explanation for what happened at the end.
If Bioware provides suitable material I will be the first one to slam down on IT, Bioware however did not and so IT is a theory.
Get over your butthurt for IT.

[HiddenInWar]

MegaSovereign wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Are we still at this?

And I thought I couldn't let the bone go sometimes.

The ME3 endings....they are endless.

Cant we all just get along?  I know that's such a cliche question but seriously 

[Captain_Obvious]

SpamBot2000 wrote...

How many other endings you know that ruined something as great as the Mass Effect series?

The Matrix comes to mind. 

[Dr_Extrem]

Captain_Obvious wrote...

SpamBot2000 wrote...

How many other endings you know that ruined something as great as the Mass Effect series?

The Matrix comes to mind. 

indeed. same problem.

[shodiswe]

@ OP
That ending would actualy have explained why it was so bad... budgetcuts in the military simulation... Would have added a bit of humor to it...

Shepard: That story was ****!
Anderson: We had some budgetcuts during development and had to throw in an ending. You still did good, you managed to stick to your mission to the end!

[Maxster_]

Yesmar wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

Yesmar wrote...

Maxster_ wrote....

Yesmar wrote...

It's because it is part of the theory, generally I think you have a hard time telling the difference.
It's understandable, but I think you should read more Fan fiction to get an idea of how they're very different.

You are already stated, that your "theory" is not falsifiable, and thus not a theory.

No where was it ever mentioned by me that IT can not be disproven.
I said again and again that it can be disproven and even told you how it can be disproven.
Nothing provided so far is strong enough to render IT as no longer a valid theory on what happened.

This is actually fun. So, you say that nothing ever mentioned by you that IT can not be disproven.
And THEN saying it can not be disproved by everything what was provided. Like EAWare saying there will be no post-ending DLC, low quality of EAWare writing(z-movie grade) with ME3, actual nonsense of such business strategy(destroying their fanbase and damaging their reputation, to release "real" ending after year).

It seems to me, that you just contradicting yourself.

Maxster_ wrote...
ITers, for unknown(well known actually) reasons, decided that "breath scene" is real, and Catalyst scene and epilogues are not.

Let's end it once and for all.
I'm not an ITer, I don't believe in it and don't think it will happen(as I already said to you previously).The scene's have a meaning as in Shepard on the citadel and the conversation with the Tim and the Catalyst represent the battle within his mind.The breath scene represents Shepard fighting off Indoctrination, it's all part of the theory.Personally I think you're uneducated on IT and what a theory is as a whole.

And why should i waste time on nonsensical theories, that change to adapt for every real fact in that way, so they can not be disproven? 
Any shred of credibility(and actually almost none even at that time) which IT had - was already downed to absolute zero with EC.
It is fully like creationists or conspiracy theories.

That battle is nonsense, because reapers already won.

Seen as you keep bringing on the same points that have already been answered to death.
IT can be disproven, here I said it.
IT can be disproven.

Again, personally I think you're trolling and intentionally playing dumb.
Or maybe you're just ignorantly hating on something you don't like, ignoring logic.
I know people despise IT but at least use your brain when arguing against it, come up with good points.
You can't say IT is not a theory as that makes no sense, it sounds like you're trying to annoy ITers by saying they're making up fan fiction.
Which is another problem of yours, I'm not sure you know the difference.
Instead you should make good points as to why IT is not true and why it is not likely.

I'm surprised this is even an issue with some people.

IT is not a theory. Any fact that disproves the IT, is immediately disregarded by fanatics.
Seeing ME3(and ME2) garbage writing, why would anyone thought that EAWare is capable of such level of writing? It is clear that they are not, and they never were.

I asked you a question - what would disprove the IT? You answered that it is epilogue, and ME3 have an epilogue.
You just don't like epilogue, so it is false.
And that is perfect example, that nothing can disprove the IT for fanatics. Facts are just discarded, because they don't fit the IT.

It's pretty straight forward.

1) Nothing disproved IT as a possible outcome yet, it can however be disproven.
     It's that simple, a thick skulled person should understand that.
     I'm not contadicting myself, you're just acting silly and don't understand it.

2) It's sounds like theories make you butthurt for some reason, so you try to hate on them.
    

3) It's not dismissed, it just didn't provide anything to indicate IT as not being a possible explanation for what happened at the end.
If Bioware provides suitable material I will be the first one to slam down on IT, Bioware however did not and so IT is a theory.
Get over your butthurt for IT.

1) How can it be disproven, when only source of such disproval would be acceptance of facts by ITers? Not that they ever accept facts which destroy their favorite delusion.
I stated the facts which disproves the IT, but those facts are easily discarded by you.
Like epilogue, which you said disprove the IT, and when i pointed you on a real epilogue of ME3 - you said that you discard this.

And by that, you basically confrirmed that IT can not be disproven, but you still saying that it can.
Also, you completely ignore indirect evidence, like EAWare ****ty writing. And that IT makes no sense from business perspective.

2) I just don't like people who stating plain lie, like that ME3 writing was brilliant, when it clearly not.

3)

It's not dismissed, it just didn't provide anything to indicate IT as
not being a possible explanation for what happened at the end.

Of course. You just discarding evidence you don't like. As true fanatic.

If Bioware provides suitable material I will be the first one to slam down on IT, Bioware however did not and so IT is a theory.

Sure, EAWare produced the EC, and said that there will be no post-ending dlc.
So, they provided suitable material which completely disproves the IT. Fanactics just discard those facts.

Modifié par Maxster_, 20 novembre 2012 - 08:48 .