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#51
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Dr_Extrem wrote...

arial wrote...

people here always say the endings are the worst thing in gaming hsitory, and although I highly disagree (I can think of a few games from the mid-late 90s that were worse), it could have been way worse.

Example of a worse ending for ME3:

After fireing the Crucible big Letters appear on the screen saying "Simulation Completed", you then see Shepard exit a cryo pod, Anderson comes over and says "You did good son, welcome to N7".

This would have been much worse.


So just be thankful the ending was not as bad as that.


that would actually be a nice ending.


No. No-no-no. That is NOT a nice ending. All of your decisions? Your romances? Your connection to Garrus? That would have all have been fake. Garrus isn't the Dark Knight of Omega. You didn't fall in love with Liara. Your mind did not have the images of the Protheans fall burnt into it.

All of your trials and tribulations, your triumphs and defeats would have been a simulation for N7? I may have actually punched the screen. That just blows my mind. I really dislike the current endings, but no. Never that. I would take the Extended Cut endings over that any day of the week.

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arial wrote...

 people here always say the endings are the worst thing in gaming hsitory,  although I highly disagree (I can think of a few games from the mid-late 90s that were worse), it could have been way worse.

Example of a worse ending for ME3:

After fireing the Crucible big Letters appear on the screen saying "Simulation Completed", you then see Shepard exit a cryo pod, Anderson comes over and says "You did good son, welcome to N7".

This would have been much worse.


So just be thankful the ending was not as bad as that.

(P.S. I think the worst ending goes to "Outlaws")

At least that ending would make sense.

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No, if ME3 was a stand alone game shooter, I personnaly don't care about the ending : playing once, find it mediocre at best and move to another better game...

But we're talking about the last part of a trinity rpg games (at least the first was one), with a pile of lies given to us before the release... (the most amusing : 16 endings, and I got one in 3 colors...)

This game has (IMO) the worst ending I ever seen in 32 years of gaming...

JPR out!

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JPR1964 wrote...

No, if ME3 was a stand alone game shooter, I personnaly don't care about the ending : playing once, find it mediocre at best and move to another better game...

But we're talking about the last part of a trinity rpg games (at least the first was one), with a pile of lies given to us before the release... (the most amusing : 16 endings, and I got one in 3 colors...)

This game has (IMO) the worst ending I ever seen in 32 years of gaming...

JPR out!


I respectfully disagree. I simply can't play as a default Shepard in ME3. I don't understand how anyone can.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

JPR1964 wrote...

No, if ME3 was a stand alone game shooter, I personnaly don't care about the ending : playing once, find it mediocre at best and move to another better game...

But we're talking about the last part of a trinity rpg games (at least the first was one), with a pile of lies given to us before the release... (the most amusing : 16 endings, and I got one in 3 colors...)

This game has (IMO) the worst ending I ever seen in 32 years of gaming...

JPR out!


I respectfully disagree. I simply can't play as a default Shepard in ME3. I don't understand how anyone can.


default shepard is a strange guy. i could not even play as default shep in me2.

but .. if it would be a stand alone game, we would not have any comparisons. default shep would just be the random soldier with a violent past.

as a stand alone game, mass effect would not have had the ending problem.

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arial wrote...

 people here always say the endings are the worst thing in gaming hsitory,  although I highly disagree (I can think of a few games from the mid-late 90s that were worse), it could have been way worse.

Example of a worse ending for ME3:

After fireing the Crucible big Letters appear on the screen saying "Simulation Completed", you then see Shepard exit a cryo pod, Anderson comes over and says "You did good son, welcome to N7".

This would have been much worse.


So just be thankful the ending was not as bad as that.

(P.S. I think the worst ending goes to "Outlaws")



Yes but this is not the 90's

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MegaSovereign wrote...

JPR1964 wrote...

No, if ME3 was a stand alone game shooter, I personnaly don't care about the ending : playing once, find it mediocre at best and move to another better game...

But we're talking about the last part of a trinity rpg games (at least the first was one), with a pile of lies given to us before the release... (the most amusing : 16 endings, and I got one in 3 colors...)

This game has (IMO) the worst ending I ever seen in 32 years of gaming...

JPR out!


I respectfully disagree. I simply can't play as a default Shepard in ME3. I don't understand how anyone can.

why? I Like his ears!!!!! :o:lol:

JPR out!

Modifié par JPR1964, 18 novembre 2012 - 09:39 .


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ld1449 wrote...

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

Either they honestly believe that something, which is the equivalent of not playing the entire series, is better

Or

They're lying.

Chances are they're lying, and that should always set off alarm bells when someone has to lie to try and make a point, or make someone else look bad.


Nope.

Not lying.

Just that bad of an ending where even one that tries to fail fails at doing it worse.


Seeing as though you just admited you don't care about the trilogy:

Why do you care about the end of it?

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JPR1964 wrote...

No, if ME3 was a stand alone game shooter, I personnaly don't care about the ending : playing once, find it mediocre at best and move to another better game...

But we're talking about the last part of a trinity rpg games (at least the first was one), with a pile of lies given to us before the release... (the most amusing : 16 endings, and I got one in 3 colors...)

This game has (IMO) the worst ending I ever seen in 32 years of gaming...

JPR out!

that was never actually stated by any Bioware employee, it was a rumor started by IGN, thus this arguement is pointless.

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arial wrote...

JPR1964 wrote...

No, if ME3 was a stand alone game shooter, I personnaly don't care about the ending : playing once, find it mediocre at best and move to another better game...

But we're talking about the last part of a trinity rpg games (at least the first was one), with a pile of lies given to us before the release... (the most amusing : 16 endings, and I got one in 3 colors...)

This game has (IMO) the worst ending I ever seen in 32 years of gaming...

JPR out!

that was never actually stated by any Bioware employee, it was a rumor started by IGN, thus this arguement is pointless.


IGN was not the first who wrote it. Prima wrote it. And Here on BWN men ME1 come.

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@arial

thanks, that give me the reason to repost this link : 16 was not EXACTLY mentionned by Bioware, but...

http://social.biowar...6886/1#10056886

Have fun... :devil:

JPR out!

Modifié par JPR1964, 18 novembre 2012 - 09:52 .


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JPR1964 wrote...

@arial

thanks, that give me the reason to repost this link : 16 was not EXACTLY mentionned by Bioware, but...

http://social.biowar...6886/1#10056886

Have fun... :devil:

JPR out!


critical hit.

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JPR1964 wrote...

@arial

thanks, that give me the reason to repost this link : 16 was not EXACTLY mentionned by Bioware, but...

http://social.biowar...6886/1#10056886

Have fun... :devil:

JPR out!


If you read the post you'll see how even the OP is unsure what's accurate.

People quote that post without actually reading it, or doing their own research, and the very first and only one I went and checked out for myself turned out to be wrong, yet it was quoted in the OP like fact.

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arial wrote...

 people here always say the endings are the worst thing in gaming hsitory,  although I highly disagree (I can think of a few games from the mid-late 90s that were worse), it could have been way worse.

Example of a worse ending for ME3:

After fireing the Crucible big Letters appear on the screen saying "Simulation Completed", you then see Shepard exit a cryo pod, Anderson comes over and says "You did good son, welcome to N7".

This would have been much worse.


So just be thankful the ending was not as bad as that.

(P.S. I think the worst ending goes to "Outlaws")



That ending you descibed is so good, 

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Is it bad that I liked the ME3 endings? Is it worse that I thought the original was better than the EC? People saying, "it could be worse" is a bad argument are right, but I'd argue the endings are quite good and perfectly in line with the themes, tone, and lore of the series.

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The biggest reason that the endings are bad, for me and probably for many others, is because it introduces a super villain in the last 5 minutes of a 100+ hours game trilogy<_<.
It is now no longer the reapers that are the real threat, but a little subplot of synthetic vs. organic life, so the little homicidal AI gives us 3 choices.

Choice 1. Control, You die, and become a synthetic overlord. You are essentially a "God".
Choice 2. Synthesis, You die, and everyone else become synthetic. You are playing "God".
Choice 3. Destroy, You might live, but synthetics will be destroyed. Depending on how you have played, you are committing  genocide.

The original endings were an atrocity, that should never have been released.

The sad part is that BioWare had a perfect emotional high point to end the trilogy, the Shepard- Andersson conversation:pinched:. After the conversation they could have Shepard activate the Crucible, and then let the outcome depend on your EMS and allies.
That would have been a worthy end to the Mass Effect saga :(.

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I don't think it would be "good" or "better" ending that we already got because Shepard already finished N7 program. This reflected on his armor in first game Eden Prime mission, where he's the only one in squad who has N7 on his armor. according to codex. And imo IT is more mindblowing than this.

Modifié par Praidas, 18 novembre 2012 - 11:43 .


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That would be far better than what we got actually.

There might be worse endings out there, but none for any game that I played.

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DPSSOC wrote...

Is it bad that I liked the ME3 endings? Is it worse that I thought the original was better than the EC? People saying, "it could be worse" is a bad argument are right, but I'd argue the endings are quite good and perfectly in line with the themes, tone, and lore of the series.


I agree that the EC made it worse. I hated both though.

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Yesmar wrote...

arial wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

arial wrote...

 people here always say the endings are the worst thing in gaming hsitory, and although I highly disagree (I can think of a few games from the mid-late 90s that were worse), it could have been way worse.

Example of a worse ending for ME3:

After fireing the Crucible big Letters appear on the screen saying "Simulation Completed", you then see Shepard exit a cryo pod, Anderson comes over and says "You did good son, welcome to N7".

This would have been much worse.


So just be thankful the ending was not as bad as that.


that would actually be a nice ending.

No, because it meant nothing ever really happened.and LIs you had, every choice you made, every character you had met. none of it would have actually happened, nobody was real, it was all a big lie.


That fixes all the plot holes.

And opens the door to a new chapter, it can revolve a better antagonist (well at least a new one that isn't ruined by horrible explanation) , thanks for the excellent new ending idea Arial.

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It can always get worse.

That doesn't mean we should be satisfied with what we have.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

Wow, people are saying a simulation would've been better. C'mon guys, you KNOW you would've been pissed if that was the real ending. You KNOW it. That would've literally been a complete waste of 100+
hours of gameplay.


I'm sure Seival would have been ecstatic over an ending like that.



Cthulhu42 wrote...

It can always get worse.

That doesn't mean we should be satisfied with what we have.


true

Modifié par anorling, 18 novembre 2012 - 11:51 .


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people would've gotten mad no matter what the ending was

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Yate wrote...

people would've gotten mad no matter what the ending was

True, they just wouldn't have been as vocal, nor at the scale of RME

It's not so much that people were mad, it's that so many people were unified over what they were mad about, it was a bit of a consumer awakening, sure people would like for producers of goods to have all the power *cough cough* but, as far as I can tell no game has ever had such a unified response at the scale as the ending to ME3.

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

Yate wrote...

people would've gotten mad no matter what the ending was

True, they just wouldn't have been as vocal, nor at the scale of RME

It's not so much that people were mad, it's that so many people were unified over what they were mad about, it was a bit of a consumer awakening, sure people would like for producers of goods to have all the power *cough cough* but, as far as I can tell no game has ever had such a unified response at the scale as the ending to ME3.


True, and I'm glad we got the EC. But that's just because the endings lack that emotional umph needed to close the series. Nowadays people just bash anything related to the Catalyst or Synthesis without question. They're too emotionally immature to get past the disappointment and properly enjoy the series.