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[Zeroth Angel]

EntropicAngel wrote...

bmwcrazy wrote...

Sex.

Lesbian sex.

Two chicks at a time.

You know, whenever I see a post by you, with your BMW name and your GT-R sig, I have this feeling that you only come here to rub elbows with the great unwashed and laugh at us and try to troll us.

Anyway.

1. Worlds. Bioware makes Milieu stories miles, miles better than any other developer.

2. Characters. Bioware also makes very very good characters who feel alive, to the point that we have disturbing numbers of people wanting to sleep with them.

3. Dialog heavy games. Very good point of Bioware.

Isn't that the point of most romances though?

[Sebby]

Wimbini wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

bmwcrazy wrote...

Sex.

Lesbian sex.

Two chicks at a time.

You know, whenever I see a post by you, with your BMW name and your GT-R sig, I have this feeling that you only come here to rub elbows with the great unwashed and laugh at us and try to troll us.

Anyway.

1. Worlds. Bioware makes Milieu stories miles, miles better than any other developer.

2. Characters. Bioware also makes very very good characters who feel alive, to the point that we have disturbing numbers of people wanting to sleep with them.

3. Dialog heavy games. Very good point of Bioware.

Isn't that the point of most romances though?

Yeah in Bioware games, it's certainly not for narrative,thematic or gameplay purposes but juvenile wish fulfillment.

[MichaelStuart]

I like their stories, characters, and sense of humor.

Modifié par MichaelStuart, 19 novembre 2012 - 08:32 .

[iOnlySignIn]

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[Persephone]

Characters like Loghain, Anora, Varric, Thane, Garrus....

Strong female characters that aren't just sidekicks ala Triss Merigold

Humor. Yes. I dig it. Esp. in banters.

Bonus mention: Their games invite trolls into every single thread. Positive or negative. Broken records are such fun!

[Fast Jimmy]

AntiChri5 wrote...

Is this really a good thing if quality suffers? So far BioWare's sequels scream "needed more time".

I think it's worth it.

So far, the only BioWare sequel i would say has objective quality issues is DA2, and i still prefer DA2 to Origins.

Making the sequels different is extremely important to me, few things disgust me more then a company pumping out the same game and putting a different number at the end. Whatever people think of the direction BioWare games take, they have to admit the sequel is different to it's predecessor.

Even if they "admit" it by shouting "They changed it now it sucks!"

I only mind a sequel being incredibly similar if it is a game which I play only for the gameplay. Examples include sports games, shooters, racing sims, turn-based sims, etc. Games that are enjoyable primarily for the game.

for games that are about story, however, this doesn't bother me, especially if the mechanics are already good to begin with. 

If I am reading a book, I don't want the writer to experiment with the narrative style, to redesign their charcters or to decide they want to write a non-fiction novel instead of a fantasy one. I'm here for the story. I'm not against using different writing techniques... but for God's sake, don't deviate so strongly that it begins to feel like it is not the same story being told.

Being focused on story, choice and characters in your games is innovative enough already. Don't sacrifice that wonderful, unique section of your game to 'innovate' features that can be found and done better in other series. It's a losing battle for everyone.  

[Volus Warlord]

Skanky female characters with daddy issues and STDs that constantly remind you why you have next to no respect for them

Relentless promotion of stupid, bland, and meaningless characters

A marketing and PR team that makes you want to give kittens a bath in boiling sulfuric acid

[Sebby]

Three other things I like about Bioware,

More linearity than Gears of War

Less meaningful choices than Gears of War

Worse continuity than Gears of War

[The Heretic of Time]

3 things I like about BioWare:


1. Their awesome fanbase, eespecially the IT crew, those guys are hilarious, it's always fun to read their thread.

2. Their fantasy-orientated games, especially ME3, that's the best fantasy game they've made so far.

3. Their awesome choice-and-consequences mechanics in most of their games. There are so many romance options to choose from. And with all the characters being bisexual, there is plenty of choice for both male and female player characters! Isn't that's awesome!?!?!? YES IT IS!

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 19 novembre 2012 - 11:19 .

[Andarthiel_Demigod]

1. Interesting characters and deep character stories
2.Excellent storytelling and engorssing plot
3.Their forum staff are great

[Orian Tabris]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Skanky female characters with daddy issues and STDs that constantly remind you why you have next to no respect for them

Relentless promotion of stupid, bland, and meaningless characters

A marketing and PR team that makes you want to give kittens a bath in boiling sulfuric acid

Volus, this is simply not true. Except for that last sentence, that is completely true.

[Il Divo]

J. Reezy wrote...

I'm getting the impression that this isn't a "3 things to like about BioWare" thread anymore.

That was inevitable from the get-go. It's just the BSN's way.

Modifié par Il Divo, 19 novembre 2012 - 11:51 .

[Dominus]

Their ability to create interesting concepts for stories. They may not be able to continue them very well, but they always knock the original out of the ballpark.

That, by a mile. The sequels were notably different from the original - Mass Effect 2, while drastically different, felt on par with the original and had no quarrel. ME3, while still a fantastic game, is a slight dissapointment. DA2 is, um... yeah.

But yes, the original concepts definitely capture one's imagination. That will likely be greater in agreement.

[Iakus]

1 Baldur's Gate

2 Baldur's Gate 2

3 Dragon Age: Origins

Or to be more specific:

1) Huge epic story
2) interesting npcs and companions with their own agendas and outlooks
3) Be a hero, be an antihero, be a villain who fights other villains.  The choice is yours.

[wolfsite]

1. Great at creating memorable and believable characters

2. Great at creating living worlds to adventure and explore in

3. Great at creating great stories to imerse the player in.

[TheClonesLegacy]

Various things.
Allowing me to have a Bear avatar especially.

[Lotion Soronarr]

SebastianDA wrote...

1. Same-Sex Romance (I wouldn't have even been aware of bioware had I not run into an article praising them for inclusivity. I started purchasing their products for this reason. I have also consciously NOT purchased products for being non-inclusive - such as Witcher 1 for being misogynist and FFXIV for intentionally deciding not to include SS Marriage).

Really?
Romances are the only reason you play games?


Oh well, I personally don't care if a game has romances or not, but to each his own.

[The Heretic of Time]

SebastianDA wrote...

1. Same-Sex Romance (I wouldn't have even been aware of bioware had I not run into an article praising them for inclusivity. I started purchasing their products for this reason. I have also consciously NOT purchased products for being non-inclusive - such as Witcher 1 for being misogynist and FFXIV for intentionally deciding not to include SS Marriage).

Your incredibly shallow and superficial reason for not buying The Witcher really hurts my little gamer heart. The Witcher is AWESOME, but you don't even want to give it a chance just because it's "misogynist", which it totally isn't.  If only you knew what you're talking about, you might not say such inaccurate stuff about The Witcher, and you might have given this amazing series a fair try...

Just for your information, I know plenty of WOMEN gamers who LOVE The Witcher, a lot! So The Witcher can't really be that mysogynistic, can it? Just think about it.

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 20 novembre 2012 - 02:21 .

[LTD]

Button - Awesome
Dragon Age II
Ending of Me3

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Sorry I just had to:(


BW has made sick amount of absolutely awesome games.

[Wolfspawn]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

SebastianDA wrote...

I have also consciously NOT purchased products for being non-inclusive - such as Witcher 1 for being misogynist

Your incredibly shallow and superficial reason for not buying The Witcher really hurts my little gamer heart. The Witcher is AWESOME, but you don't even want to give it a chance just because it's "misogynist", which it totally isn't.  If only you knew what you're talking about, you might not say such inaccurate stuff about The Witcher, and you might have given this amazing series a fair try..

Just for your information, I know plenty of WOMEN gamers who LOVE The Witcher, a lot! So The Witcher can't really be that mysogynistic, can it? Just think about it.

Oh GOD, I agree! Just because the developers (understandably) like looking at pretty girls doesn't make the game misogynistic! Give the game a chance and you'll see it rather heavily DIScourages sexism! So what if it has female nudity? As if you haven't seen that before! So what if the main character sleeps with a lot of women? It's part of his character! You can even choose to NOT sleep with women, if you don't want to. So give the game a try, and don't view it through feminist-colored glasses. You'll be glad you did.

Modifié par bob_20000, 20 novembre 2012 - 02:35 .

[PaulSX]

1. game world settings
2. moral choices
3. epic moments

[London]

RE: Witcher 1...I have to disagree. A "mini game" of bedding women and turning them into nude photos on cards is misogynist to me. I'm not the only one who thinks so:

http://community.fem...alyzing_the_wi/

That said I DID buy Witcher 2, which corrected this problem.  To this day I refuse to buy Witcher 1, but I suppose that's no big loss to them as at this point it's $5.

Romances are also not the only reason I play games - I only own a few games and half of them are fighters with no Romance (Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, etc.) and the Diablo Series, which if it has a Romance I must have missed it aside from the Templar's interest in the Enchantress in D3. 

Being that Romances were lacking in most games I played, they were that drew me to BioWare as it offered something different.

Modifié par SebastianDA, 20 novembre 2012 - 04:55 .