Modifié par Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien, 04 janvier 2010 - 01:16 .
Modifié par Naqey, 04 janvier 2010 - 01:51 .
ReubenLiew wrote...
Don't be silly, Sandal's not a dwarf.
Gods can't be kings.
ReubenLiew wrote...
The God-Emperor is not a king!
HA!
IronVanguard wrote...
ReubenLiew wrote...
Don't be silly, Sandal's not a dwarf.
Gods can't be kings.
The God-Emperor wishes to have a word with you.
On topic, on my Dwarf Noble I did do Harrowmount's and gave the crown to Bhelen to see what would happen.
My Dwarf Noble did love vengence though, so I quickly save scummed and gave it to Harrowmount and cut Bhelen's head off. Take thar. If not for you, I would have been king!
Well, queen on that character, but you get the gist of it.
ashez2ashes wrote...
Harrowmont does a crappy job and dies, but that doesn't mean that someone better than both of them rises up to fill the void.
So true, but Bhelen keeps a good check on his power (To people saying that he becomes a tyrant and so forth, keep in mind that was after several assassination attempts on his life. Why? Because he wanted equality for the casteless. I'd say the ends justified the means in this case.) A slight analysis of both contenders shows that Bhelen is a more firm ruler, one that will take action. I'm somewhat leaning towards Machiavelli's philosophy myself, so my natural choice was Bhelen. I'd rather have a dictator that lets his people prosper over false representation under a king that spent his whole time amongst those false representors themselves.David Falkayn wrote...
ashez2ashes wrote...
Harrowmont does a crappy job and dies, but that doesn't mean that someone better than both of them rises up to fill the void.
Harrowmont saw himself as a caretaker--nothing more, nothing less. The only reason he put in his claim to the throne was to keep Bhelen from getting it, otherwise, he'd have been happy with Trian or the dwarf noble, or almost anyone else. He sees Bhelen as fundamentally corrupt and lacking in honor and integrity--which, let's be honest, he is.
Bhelen is a Machiavellian figure in the truest sense of the term--if he'd ever gotten a chance to read a copy of The Prince, he'd agree wholeheartedly with Machiavelli's philosophy. Bhelen believes that the ends justifies the means--a very dangerous path to follow.
Both individuals are poor choices as rulers--but you've got to work with what you've got...
I thought the same thing until I looked up Harrowmont in the dragon age wiki. Basically it says you're heir to the House Aeducan, not the throne specifically. It's not ruled out, but it's not an automatic transfer either. This ending won't apply if you choose to keep the golems.Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...
I read somewhere that if you are dwarf noble, you can get Harrowmont to ensure you are the heir to the throne when he dies. Did you not get that option?
You can learn his views through investigation of Orzammar. You also learn a lot on the side-quests leading up to the crowning. Bhelen himself does display some of his views through your conversations.Obadiah wrote...
Is any of the "good" stuff about Bhelen evident if you don't know the endings? The first thing you see of Bhelen (non-dwark noble origin) on entering Orzimar is one of his lackeys murdering someone in the street. One shop-keeper says he thinks he'll increase trade with the topsiders, and there are reports that Bhelen wants to marry an castless.
Bhelen never gives any of that as his philosophy though.
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