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Of course Loghain told Howe to kill the Couslands


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#101
KnightofPhoenix

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IIRC, Gaider said Loghain's alliance with Howe was prior to what he did with the Couslands, but circumstances forced him to continue the alliance even if he was disgusted by his actions. But I might be misremembering.

And as much as I like Anora, I actually do not think she is a match for Eamon. At best, they are equal. It is my belief that Eamon is amassing power all the while not explicitly antagonizing the throne (esp in Alistair's case). Establishing himself as a powerful force whose consent is needed to keep stability and there is very little Anora can do about that, esp after the whole civil war mess. I don't think either Eamon or Anora want another civil war, so they co-exist, and thus create a cold war of sorts. Arcturus however would have destroyed him of course :P

In any case, this is extreme speculation and something I very much doubt bioware has even thought about, so it's all pointless.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

In any case, this is extreme speculation and something I very much doubt bioware has even thought about, so it's all pointless.


Still fun all the same though, seeing as how we can think up better things then Bioware could.

And if I ever get a job making my VG, I'm running to you for some political consulting lol. Just so I can make sure it's not too.... DAII-esque.

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

But I might be misremembering.


I think you might be, as this is all I can find on the Loghain-Howe relationship:

DG wrote...

There is also the matter of his association with Arl Howe, someone Loghain evidences great distaste for -- but politics makes for strange bedfellows, as they say. In my mind, Loghain always thought that Howe was an ally completely under his control and was probably never able to admit even to himself how much Howe was able to manipulate him. Howe acted on a great number of things without Loghain's involvement or approval, but by then the two were already in bed together -- Loghain was committed, as it were, and after Ostagar doubly so. For all his faults, Loghain is not a man to waver once a decision is made -- good or bad. The only reason he gives up, in the end, is because he sees that there is someone else beside himself who can save Ferelden, someone who hasn't made the mistakes he has. The burden does not rest entirely on his shoulders -- which, yes, is how he feels.


That speaks more to him going to Howe after the Cousland massacre and Howe doing a lot of distasteful things Loghain wouldn't have authorized while Loghain was out in the field, IMO.

Arcturus however would have destroyed him of course :P


As would Damaeus and Xanthos =P

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 25 décembre 2012 - 06:02 .


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Him being 'doubly committed' to his alliance to Howe after Ostagar suggestes they were allied beforehand.

And yea for sure I'll be happy to provide advice.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...


As I haven't played DAO in some time, my memory on certain dialogue segments may be fuzzy but... did Isolde know about Loghain sending Jowan to her? Before Jowan was caught in the act?


I do not believe so no. But Isolde is clueless.


I believe she implies in the main hall that she got Jowan directly from Loghain.

"And you had no idea the mage you hired was an assassin?"
"None. I trusted Loghain. Why wouldn't I?"

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 25 décembre 2012 - 03:07 .