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[Leland Gaunt]

Lord_Sirian wrote...
Well using a grenade class on xbox is about as low as you can go when attempting to outscore someone.

"Bowing to the PC-master race that uses easier control schemes"

It seems like you're really not satisfied with the outcome of the game. Why would that be?

[Feneckus]

Parallax Demon wrote...

main problem is the autoaim when you're using sniperrifles. You want to shoot a Brute across the map but when you scope, you're all of a sudden aiming at a Swarmer half way the map.

Does anyone have any video of that ? I keep hearing about it but I've never seen any proof. In the few xbox vids I've watched I didn't really notice anything, except how awkward moving around was. Much smoother on PC.

[Ziegrif]

Those last 2 comments by sirian and feneckus give me this weird vibe of Deja Vu, like we've been over this in some other thread by the same people posting... weird.

[genomandril]

Ziegrif wrote...

Those last 2 comments by sirian and feneckus give me this weird vibe of Deja Vu, like we've been over this in some other thread by the same people posting... weird.

BSN is a permanent déjà-vu.

[Ronnie Blastoff]

There is no auto-aim on xbox, its auto centering. Auto aim would be simular to "ability targeting" in that you can click from target to target and just start shooting. What the game does is "auto-center" on w/e target is closest to you and your reticle. (hence the aiming at swarmers instead of ravagers) And believe it or not, sniper rifles SUFFER from it more often than benefit. Trying to pop a particular enemy in a crowd at distance is near impossible with "pop shot" sniping. You literally have to drag while scoped from enemy to enemy.

[Ziegrif]

genomandril wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

Those last 2 comments by sirian and feneckus give me this weird vibe of Deja Vu, like we've been over this in some other thread by the same people posting... weird.

BSN is a permanent déjà-vu.

Oh no...

[Ronnie Blastoff]

Ziegrif wrote...

genomandril wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

Those last 2 comments by sirian and feneckus give me this weird vibe of Deja Vu, like we've been over this in some other thread by the same people posting... weird.

BSN is a permanent déjà-vu.

Oh no...

Oh no?



........... OH YEAH!!!

[GallowsPole]

It's called auto assist on Xbox. Not auto-death, auto- headshot, auto-bakemeacake. You quickly pull the trigger and it picks the closest target, not specific targets and auto locks on. At best , you hit the correct target with a damage reduced hip shot.

As far as video proof, all you'll see is a target lit up. Which target is the problem and you still gotta aim for headshots. No comparison with the ability to mouse over targets.

Modifié par GallowsPole, 24 novembre 2012 - 01:10 .

[Gornok]

Anytime my comrade Cory [Fallen] gives the call... I am there for support. I have been listening to his advice even before his N7 number hit the 10,000k mark. Dude shown a commitment and passion for fun in this game and really don't care what you want to play.

There is also Devil as well, the original beast of a player, but haven't played with him in months.

I also have a comrade which stopped promoting at 240, but dude's skill is superior to most which I play with... even took the appropriate name for himself... Steeltorrent.

[TattyUD]

Feneckus wrote...

Parallax Demon wrote...

main problem is the autoaim when you're using sniperrifles. You want to shoot a Brute across the map but when you scope, you're all of a sudden aiming at a Swarmer half way the map.

Does anyone have any video of that ? I keep hearing about it but I've never seen any proof. In the few xbox vids I've watched I didn't really notice anything, except how awkward moving around was. Much smoother on PC.

The biggest problem is the camera speed, its terrible even compared to other console games.  Its a million times worse when you're scoped in.  

I don't have any video footage right now but here's a specific example from a game last night.  I was playing my Javelin GI and I could see a mob in cover against a wall with my hunter vision, I aimed directly on it and zoomed in.  Because he was out of sight the game wouldn't 'target' him so the zoom took me to a visible enemy that had been right at the edge of my screen.  

The most common annoyance for me is that when you scope in without a 'reticule lock', the game often can't seem to work out where you were trying to aim and puts you halfway between two mobs with no chance of adjusting as you're aimed too far away from either.  

As Sirian said the autoaim can be helpful without a scope, I can hard aim and know I'll get reliable hits.  However it can't compare with the fine adjustments and total camera freedom that you get on PC with the mouse.  I played a lot with my GI and GPS yesterday on PC, when I switched back to xbox I decided I'd run the same setup to see how it compared and it was like swimming through treacle. 

Modifié par TattyUD, 24 novembre 2012 - 01:26 .

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

TattyUD wrote...

... it was like swimming through treacle.

Awesome!

Wait what..

[d_nought]

As another PC and xbox player, I can say that aim assist is helpful about 95% of the time, you just need to know when to scope in. The trick with consoles is to do quick aiming with the right thumbstick and then fine aim by strafing. If I'm using a decently accurate weapon like the brophoon, saber or harrier, then I have no problems getting 20 headshots in a fairly timely manner. Obviously not as fast as on PC, but still good enough. I've also managed it with the Revenant Turian Soldier spec'd for max ROF marksman and no stability bonuses besides the passive, so it's not like consoles are THAT bad.

The much more annoying issues are the slow camera speed, which is a fairly huge hit to situational awareness, lesser sound awareness from TV speakers than from a headset, dodgy sprint/camera mechanics and lack of reliable reload cancelling, though the Infiltrators, non-dodge classes and Human Soldier barely have to worry about that.

Also, the aiming mechanic is a bit weird, it feels like your aim floats off a bit when you let go of the stick. On PC, when you stop, aim stops. It's an annoying thing in Halo as well. Bash CoD all you want, I know I do sometimes, but it does have a really good console control scheme.

Modifié par chipsandwich, 24 novembre 2012 - 04:14 .

[CNevarezN]

The Auto Aim assist could be a pain in the ass sometimes, but hardly notice it since I only use shotguns. I always feel sorry for the sniper classes though. Lmao!

[Rip The Reaper]

Worship? Gtfo

[golden24ersa]

For my gods Lord_Sirian, Jay_Hoxtatron, Red-John, and the other greats feneckus, Starduck welcome Have to get back into art mode almost there, but will draw me3 last super:P Until than I'll be back in the kitchen boys:) hehehehe How does everyone want their sandwiches:) This thread was very funny:) TY guys is was a nice break in my studying:)

[HolyAvenger]

Feneckus wrote...

Parallax Demon wrote...

main problem is the autoaim when you're using sniperrifles. You want to shoot a Brute across the map but when you scope, you're all of a sudden aiming at a Swarmer half way the map.

Does anyone have any video of that ? I keep hearing about it but I've never seen any proof. In the few xbox vids I've watched I didn't really notice anything, except how awkward moving around was. Much smoother on PC.

Here's a video I saw of it from ME2 www.youtube.com/watch

Seems pretty damn annoying. Any ME3 Xboxers want to post a vid of what its like currently?

[Feneckus]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Any ME3 Xboxers want to post a vid of what its like currently?

The correct term is "console peasants".

"Console scrubs" is a viable alternative.

Thanks for the video though. That looks annoying. Is it really that bad ?

[iloveexplosives]

The God Emperor of Mankind

Modifié par iloveexplosives, 24 novembre 2012 - 05:53 .

[Tipsyfresh]

Feneckus wrote...

Parallax Demon wrote...

main problem is the autoaim when you're using sniperrifles. You want to shoot a Brute across the map but when you scope, you're all of a sudden aiming at a Swarmer half way the map.

Does anyone have any video of that ? I keep hearing about it but I've never seen any proof. In the few xbox vids I've watched I didn't really notice anything, except how awkward moving around was. Much smoother on PC.

happens on ps3 as well.  It's really annoying on maps that give you little time to get that shot off.

[megabeast37215]

Feneckus wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

Any ME3 Xboxers want to post a vid of what its like currently?

The correct term is "console peasants".

"Console scrubs" is a viable alternative.

Thanks for the video though. That looks annoying. Is it really that bad ?

It can be from time to time... games with Swarmers on the field are worse than others.

Crowded hack circles can also be quite problematic.

Also... FU PC DB race... get a better connection and use the Kishock.

Modifié par megabeast37215, 24 novembre 2012 - 06:04 .

[Feneckus]

megabeast37215 wrote...

It can be from time to time... games with Swarmers on the field are worse than others. 

What about vs geth/cerberus/collectors ?

[WizeMan305]

I just wanted to share how I worship Ashen:

First off my first born is named Ashen middle name Earth.

Second when basking in his presence I only speak when spoken to and never out of context.

Third I stand by my faith in Ashen that he shall never be outscored by ANYBODY!!! Not even that liar and a cheat MEGABEAST!

[Black Phantom]

WizeMan305 wrote...

I just wanted to share how I worship Ashen:

First off my first born is named Ashen middle name Earth.

Second when basking in his presence I only speak when spoken to and never out of context.

Third I stand by my faith in Ashen that he shall never be outscored by ANYBODY!!! Not even that liar and a cheat MEGABEAST!

WHY DID YOU NECRO THIS