The Yagh kills the populations, the Salarians moves in as the Yagh leaves the planets for their next wave of assaults..
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Posté 20 novembre 2012 - 08:40
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You spend the game fighting the Yagh, the evently you learn that it was all orchestrated and directed by the Salarian Dalatrass..... She wanted more planets for her millions of kids!(hatchlings)
The Yagh kills the populations, the Salarians moves in as the Yagh leaves the planets for their next wave of assaults..
The Yagh kills the populations, the Salarians moves in as the Yagh leaves the planets for their next wave of assaults..
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Posté 20 novembre 2012 - 08:42
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The Salarians claims the planets in the name of galactic peace and security...
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Posté 20 novembre 2012 - 08:45
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it could work shodiswe if done right
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Posté 20 novembre 2012 - 08:48
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they could make a game abouth gillian anderson and follow mass effect ascension, retribution and deception saves them from having to rewirte the last novel and the complete story spans most of the mass effect series the bad thing is that certain key events like what happens to paul grayson are allready known but with the multiple choise you can still get a what if scenario. Further on It gives some further insight into Aria's personal life (she has a daughter) and kahlee sanders and many others without them ever crossing Shepards path.
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Posté 24 novembre 2012 - 09:03
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I think the best way would be who ever you had a romance with in ME3 your child should continue the legacy.. so Tali, Liara, Ashley... gives you a chance to play three races. Unless you have a same sex relationship, then it would be a reverted back to ME2 romaces.
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Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 06:23
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sounds impractical perhaps as a cameo
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Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 07:09
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As long as Mass Effect 4 (please call it something else) does not include Shepard as part of the story, or only uses him/her as a reference only, I will be fine. The Mass Effect trilogy should be left alone the way it is. The new trilogy needs to be completely fresh and allow the player to choose a different race/voice. This is the time to go above and beyond to keep the Mass Effect franchise a unique one, not to reflect and reuse what needs to be stand alone.
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Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 07:20
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I don't know, I have to disagree with this one. I think a Prequel would Make the most sense. (period)
Its possible and too easy to mess up the story with a sequel. Start with a prequel, giving Bioware more time to come up with a "great" Sequel.
A Prequel would already be good because It would lead up to the events of Mass Effect. My Opinion is to Use David Anderson' Back story (from the books) as a Prequel. THAT would be epic. Or maybe even the Illusive mans early days. (Awesomness) OR go all the way back to just before humanity found the Prothean Artifacts on mars that led to the discovery of the Mass Relays... Again...(Awesomness)
There's no need or reason to jump to a Sequel so soon.
quite frankly i dont want to see a prequel, mainly because i want to see the universe after the war not prior to it. because we already knew what it was like before and i for one want to see what its like after.
yeah it may make more sense from what view point, but does it have to? i mean people liked the ending to mass effect 3 even though it didnt make any sense didnt they? lol (well some, not me though) but i think it would be way more fun this way lol because atleast people can look forward while playing the game and think "oh i wonder what will happen next :D" instead of "what will happen next? OH............YEAH
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Posté 12 février 2013 - 10:47
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Some relevant notes first, beware of spoilers...
- The Leviathans are the "blueprint" for the Reapers in shape, size and indoctrination ability
- The Leviathans created the "god-child" VI that thought assimilation (the Harvest) was the "best" solution for
chaos thus rebelling against its creators
- The Leviathans joined the Galaxy against the Reapers (depending on conversational choices)
- The Crucible changed the nature of the "god-child" creating new choices and thus new paradigms of existence
- Regardless of choice (and for the sake of creating a continuing story) the galaxy has become a joined community, at least as far as the "Power Players" i.e. the species interacted with most during the story.
- Destruction choice: no synthetics for sometime (including the destruction of EDI and the Geth)
- Control choice: "empty" synthetics, no AI or VI (including EDI and the Geth) [This is a bit of supposition as the
god-Shepard inhabits all synthetics]
- Synthesis choice: There is no difference between synthetic and organic life as DNA has been rewritten, regardless of technical achievement or evolutionary progression. [We are shown circuit patterns even in leaves.]
- Regardless of gender or romatic choice, Liara T'Soni offers a gift to Shepard which is a "glowy, bonding type thing" that I believe is Liara impregnating herself with Shepard. (as per the wiki: It allows the asari to explore her partner's genetic heritage and pass desirable traits on to any offspring) [NOTE: I know this is debatable, however, it is a wonderful thread for a good writer to grab and run with as it allows for another tale about "The Shepard" without having to have Shepard involved, which Bioware has already stated, "No more Shepard." This can tie the original triology together with the new storyline and since the offspring will be Asari that gives the writer the ability to tie the story in anywhere within the thousand year lifespan of an Asari.]
- [as stated else where] Shepard has had a plethora of romantic liaisons that, theoretically, could have produced offspring as well. Check wiki for complete list.
- Cloning exists within Mass Effect. The Salarians have the capability as they clone a kakliosaur for the Krogan to ride on toxic worlds. Theoretically that means other races have the ability and it is likely that Cerberus used some cloning to "rebuild" Shepard.
Here's my pitch (finally):
The new threat comes from outside the galaxy, it is a big universe out there.
- We don't know where the Reapers were before they invaded our galaxy. Maybe they move between galaxies to impose order and it takes them 50000 years to "make they're rounds."
- Not all the Mass Relays have been mapped: "Many mass relays are currently dormant for unknown reasons, though they can be easily reactivated" as per the wiki. These Relays (and even current ones) could lead to other galaxies all together. Again this a loose thread that could be used to introduce a new threat to galaxy. Using this idea, the new stories could use the chosen endings as the beginnings for the new storyline, thus:
- Destruction ending: a race from another galaxy sees the controlling races of this galaxy as vulnerable and attack. These could be Reaper constructs, but I'm hoping for a new villain.
- Control ending: a race exploring from another galaxy wanders through the Charon Relay and sees the Reapers hanging nearby in space, the "god-Shepard" who is "protecting and sustaining for the many" responds to this threat causing another "First Contact War." Now this could be a race who were warned of the Reapers much as the Prothean attempted to do or a race who evolved greater tech after the Reapers went through their galaxy; in either case they fear the Reapers and see those that work with the Reapers or control them as a threat.
- Synthesis ending: A race of "organic purists" come through a Mass Relay and see our whole galaxy as an abomination, having fallen victim to synthetics or, worst yet, joining them of free will. In any case, this could be the same race - inherently warlike - tracking the Reapers to destroy them before their return to their galaxy not realizing or caring that we have already defeated them in some way. We are the new threat either by gaining knowledge from the Reaper wreckage, controlling the Reapers themselves, or blending ourselves with the Reapers.
This is where our new protagonist comes in. This could simply be another Alliance male or female schmo bound for a greater destiny, the Asari offspring of "The Shepard," or any other "Shepard-spawn." My preferred is the Asari offspring as it comes from any ending and romantic involvement, has the biotic tie-in and has the potential to do something really shattering like be the first Asari male ever [still lending to gender choice]. Plus this lets the writer get to do something other than just redress the Shepard archetype. Of course, if we really get spoiled, we could choose a species, then a class for the story, or they could tie it in to the romantic liaison in order to get to you
replay through the first three just to change that for the new game series (or in my case, simply load one of the multiple romantic endings).
Then just plug into the existing formula: A story driven plot with characters you form bonds with by making them three dimensional through conversation and camaraderie. A chance at romance(s). Exploration of the galaxy and maybe beyond. Intrigue, unraveling secrets, plots and other clandestine events. Have the ability to become a warrior saint or a devious bad-ass. And action sequences in between - guns, guns,guns.
Please no prequels, they are all tarnished in the sci-fi universe, I need not name examples.
There are easy ways for you to move forward, Bioware. This series of games, ney stories, are as epic as anything else science fiction that I am a fan of, in fact, it is beyond those because I...we are part of the stories, we shape them and lend our emotions to them. You have seen our passion for this series. Continue to do justice to your creation. Please.
And if you want my help I will send you writing samples, a resume and I am will to move -anywhere, now - I love this series and would do justice to it. Nojoke.<3
- The Leviathans are the "blueprint" for the Reapers in shape, size and indoctrination ability
- The Leviathans created the "god-child" VI that thought assimilation (the Harvest) was the "best" solution for
chaos thus rebelling against its creators
- The Leviathans joined the Galaxy against the Reapers (depending on conversational choices)
- The Crucible changed the nature of the "god-child" creating new choices and thus new paradigms of existence
- Regardless of choice (and for the sake of creating a continuing story) the galaxy has become a joined community, at least as far as the "Power Players" i.e. the species interacted with most during the story.
- Destruction choice: no synthetics for sometime (including the destruction of EDI and the Geth)
- Control choice: "empty" synthetics, no AI or VI (including EDI and the Geth) [This is a bit of supposition as the
god-Shepard inhabits all synthetics]
- Synthesis choice: There is no difference between synthetic and organic life as DNA has been rewritten, regardless of technical achievement or evolutionary progression. [We are shown circuit patterns even in leaves.]
- Regardless of gender or romatic choice, Liara T'Soni offers a gift to Shepard which is a "glowy, bonding type thing" that I believe is Liara impregnating herself with Shepard. (as per the wiki: It allows the asari to explore her partner's genetic heritage and pass desirable traits on to any offspring) [NOTE: I know this is debatable, however, it is a wonderful thread for a good writer to grab and run with as it allows for another tale about "The Shepard" without having to have Shepard involved, which Bioware has already stated, "No more Shepard." This can tie the original triology together with the new storyline and since the offspring will be Asari that gives the writer the ability to tie the story in anywhere within the thousand year lifespan of an Asari.]
- [as stated else where] Shepard has had a plethora of romantic liaisons that, theoretically, could have produced offspring as well. Check wiki for complete list.
- Cloning exists within Mass Effect. The Salarians have the capability as they clone a kakliosaur for the Krogan to ride on toxic worlds. Theoretically that means other races have the ability and it is likely that Cerberus used some cloning to "rebuild" Shepard.
Here's my pitch (finally):
The new threat comes from outside the galaxy, it is a big universe out there.
- We don't know where the Reapers were before they invaded our galaxy. Maybe they move between galaxies to impose order and it takes them 50000 years to "make they're rounds."
- Not all the Mass Relays have been mapped: "Many mass relays are currently dormant for unknown reasons, though they can be easily reactivated" as per the wiki. These Relays (and even current ones) could lead to other galaxies all together. Again this a loose thread that could be used to introduce a new threat to galaxy. Using this idea, the new stories could use the chosen endings as the beginnings for the new storyline, thus:
- Destruction ending: a race from another galaxy sees the controlling races of this galaxy as vulnerable and attack. These could be Reaper constructs, but I'm hoping for a new villain.
- Control ending: a race exploring from another galaxy wanders through the Charon Relay and sees the Reapers hanging nearby in space, the "god-Shepard" who is "protecting and sustaining for the many" responds to this threat causing another "First Contact War." Now this could be a race who were warned of the Reapers much as the Prothean attempted to do or a race who evolved greater tech after the Reapers went through their galaxy; in either case they fear the Reapers and see those that work with the Reapers or control them as a threat.
- Synthesis ending: A race of "organic purists" come through a Mass Relay and see our whole galaxy as an abomination, having fallen victim to synthetics or, worst yet, joining them of free will. In any case, this could be the same race - inherently warlike - tracking the Reapers to destroy them before their return to their galaxy not realizing or caring that we have already defeated them in some way. We are the new threat either by gaining knowledge from the Reaper wreckage, controlling the Reapers themselves, or blending ourselves with the Reapers.
This is where our new protagonist comes in. This could simply be another Alliance male or female schmo bound for a greater destiny, the Asari offspring of "The Shepard," or any other "Shepard-spawn." My preferred is the Asari offspring as it comes from any ending and romantic involvement, has the biotic tie-in and has the potential to do something really shattering like be the first Asari male ever [still lending to gender choice]. Plus this lets the writer get to do something other than just redress the Shepard archetype. Of course, if we really get spoiled, we could choose a species, then a class for the story, or they could tie it in to the romantic liaison in order to get to you
replay through the first three just to change that for the new game series (or in my case, simply load one of the multiple romantic endings).
Then just plug into the existing formula: A story driven plot with characters you form bonds with by making them three dimensional through conversation and camaraderie. A chance at romance(s). Exploration of the galaxy and maybe beyond. Intrigue, unraveling secrets, plots and other clandestine events. Have the ability to become a warrior saint or a devious bad-ass. And action sequences in between - guns, guns,guns.
Please no prequels, they are all tarnished in the sci-fi universe, I need not name examples.
There are easy ways for you to move forward, Bioware. This series of games, ney stories, are as epic as anything else science fiction that I am a fan of, in fact, it is beyond those because I...we are part of the stories, we shape them and lend our emotions to them. You have seen our passion for this series. Continue to do justice to your creation. Please.
And if you want my help I will send you writing samples, a resume and I am will to move -anywhere, now - I love this series and would do justice to it. Nojoke.<3
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Posté 12 février 2013 - 11:02
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How about this for me4.
You play a lower ranked person, maybe someone in c-sec, or the systems alliance, or some other organization yet to be determined. You get recruited into a top secret initiative task force that is dedicated to stopping an unknown orginization. Your mission? Stop this orginization from provoking intergalactic tensions and sparking a war between the terminus and council spaces.
But how far does this conspiracy for war go? Who is involved? What possible gains could be made? And in a galaxy where under the table credit donations and secret deals are common place, who is it that you can really trust? And who really are the ones looking to start a war?
Nice, localized, not saving the galaxy from extinction story.
You play a lower ranked person, maybe someone in c-sec, or the systems alliance, or some other organization yet to be determined. You get recruited into a top secret initiative task force that is dedicated to stopping an unknown orginization. Your mission? Stop this orginization from provoking intergalactic tensions and sparking a war between the terminus and council spaces.
But how far does this conspiracy for war go? Who is involved? What possible gains could be made? And in a galaxy where under the table credit donations and secret deals are common place, who is it that you can really trust? And who really are the ones looking to start a war?
Nice, localized, not saving the galaxy from extinction story.
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Posté 12 février 2013 - 11:05
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TolaSrrup wrote...
- Regardless of gender or romatic choice, Liara T'Soni offers a gift to Shepard which is a "glowy, bonding type thing" that I believe is Liara impregnating herself with Shepard. (as per the wiki: It allows the asari to explore her partner's genetic heritage and pass desirable traits on to any offspring) [NOTE: I know this is debatable, however, it is a wonderful thread for a good writer to grab and run with as it allows for another tale about "The Shepard" without having to have Shepard involved, which Bioware has already stated, "No more Shepard." This can tie the original triology together with the new storyline and since the offspring will be Asari that gives the writer the ability to tie the story in anywhere within the thousand year lifespan of an Asari.]
This would also probably cause BSN to burn itself to the ground from all the flames and (unintentionally) make Liara look really bad to players who did not romance her.
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Posté 12 février 2013 - 11:05
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Had an idea that the Reapers, or Leviathans put Mass Relays in other galaxies. Maybe some aliens are hostile and wage war on the Milkyway Galaxy. Would like this to be set a long time after the Reaper War and Leviathan should be involved possibly. Would also like more conflict between races such as:
Batarians and Humans (Read an idea somewhere that the Batarians would now be normadic like the Quarians used to be, sounds interesting)
Yahg and every race except Batarian (like the idea of them teaming up with the Batarians, who have mostly gone rogue)
Drell and Hanar (Overpopulation of Drell in the years lead to tension, maybe the Hanar could start taking advantage of Drell for force in the upcoming war)
Asari and Salarians/Turians/Humans (Asari hiding the beacon on Thessia and increase in Ardat-Yakshi could cause problems in the council)
I like the idea of the Quarian and Geth setting up a shared embassy on the Citadel, and maybe both races have some type of conflict with the Virtual Aliens, or at least one race does. I think at least 2 new races (one minor like Volus, one major like Turian) should be introduced, maybe the Quarians gave the Batarians the Migrant Fleet out of guilt, and they turned it into a warship which led to the Humans and Quarians having some type of conflict. Volus should be the next race on the Council as well.
Just a few ideas I've had. Would also like to see genetic engineering be a big part in the next game if it is way into the future like a 1000 years. Maybe they could be engineering perfect soldiers to fight in the war which leads to further conflict/revolts.
Edit: Since it's way into the future, no one really knows how Shepard defeated the Reapers. Depending on an ending choice at the start the codex is slightly different. E.g. if the Geth were destroyed, the Quarians rebuilt them with free will, if the Genophage was sabotaged a team of scientists helped cure it, if Synthesis was chosen the physical effects wore off over time, If Control was chosen Shepard sent the Reapers away, if Destroy was chosen technology was rebuilt and better understanding of Synthetics was gained. If the Quarians were killed on Rannoch other surviving fleets made peace with the Geth and arrived on Rannoch as friendlies.
Batarians and Humans (Read an idea somewhere that the Batarians would now be normadic like the Quarians used to be, sounds interesting)
Yahg and every race except Batarian (like the idea of them teaming up with the Batarians, who have mostly gone rogue)
Drell and Hanar (Overpopulation of Drell in the years lead to tension, maybe the Hanar could start taking advantage of Drell for force in the upcoming war)
Asari and Salarians/Turians/Humans (Asari hiding the beacon on Thessia and increase in Ardat-Yakshi could cause problems in the council)
I like the idea of the Quarian and Geth setting up a shared embassy on the Citadel, and maybe both races have some type of conflict with the Virtual Aliens, or at least one race does. I think at least 2 new races (one minor like Volus, one major like Turian) should be introduced, maybe the Quarians gave the Batarians the Migrant Fleet out of guilt, and they turned it into a warship which led to the Humans and Quarians having some type of conflict. Volus should be the next race on the Council as well.
Just a few ideas I've had. Would also like to see genetic engineering be a big part in the next game if it is way into the future like a 1000 years. Maybe they could be engineering perfect soldiers to fight in the war which leads to further conflict/revolts.
Edit: Since it's way into the future, no one really knows how Shepard defeated the Reapers. Depending on an ending choice at the start the codex is slightly different. E.g. if the Geth were destroyed, the Quarians rebuilt them with free will, if the Genophage was sabotaged a team of scientists helped cure it, if Synthesis was chosen the physical effects wore off over time, If Control was chosen Shepard sent the Reapers away, if Destroy was chosen technology was rebuilt and better understanding of Synthetics was gained. If the Quarians were killed on Rannoch other surviving fleets made peace with the Geth and arrived on Rannoch as friendlies.
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Posté 12 février 2013 - 11:07
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...why is it that all the ideas anyone comes up with are either retconing the reapers as the villians for ME4 or having another galaxy invade?
We have a perfect cold war going into a hot war setting already in the galaxy, why just throw that entire story potential away and pull a new threat out of literally thin air?
We have a perfect cold war going into a hot war setting already in the galaxy, why just throw that entire story potential away and pull a new threat out of literally thin air?
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Darth Brotarian wrote...
...why is it that all the ideas anyone comes up with are either retconing the reapers as the villians for ME4 or having another galaxy invade?
We have a perfect cold war going into a hot war setting already in the galaxy, why just throw that entire story potential away and pull a new threat out of literally thin air?
Apart from the Batarians, most the main races seem to get along with each other during (and after according to Extended Cut) the Reaper War. It would take a long time for more conflicts to come about, I think. I like the idea of seeing how other galaxies are and their culture. Maybe races there could just be naturally agressive like the Yahg.
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Posté 12 février 2013 - 11:34
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ZacTB wrote...
Darth Brotarian wrote...
...why is it that all the ideas anyone comes up with are either retconing the reapers as the villians for ME4 or having another galaxy invade?
We have a perfect cold war going into a hot war setting already in the galaxy, why just throw that entire story potential away and pull a new threat out of literally thin air?
Apart from the Batarians, most the main races seem to get along with each other during (and after according to Extended Cut) the Reaper War. It would take a long time for more conflicts to come about, I think. I like the idea of seeing how other galaxies are and their culture. Maybe races there could just be naturally agressive like the Yahg.
Russia and America got along with beating hitler. And that peace lasted less than 3 years.
You really underestimate how powerhungry some goverments can be, and how the ideological differences of the council races and the terminus systems can clash.
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Posté 12 février 2013 - 11:34
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The evil Church of Shepotology(think of Unitology of Dead Space meets V for Vendetta) controlling the galaxy, and you are the last remnants of a rebellion founded by the surviving members of the Normandy, bent on destroying the Church's false teachings and freeing the galaxy of oppression.
Or something like that...
Or something like that...
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Posté 12 février 2013 - 11:54
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I kind of suspect they may want to go as dead space 3 and have the possibility of coop. Taking that into account how about letting us choose species and gender as in me3mp and tell the story of those characters, of the future n7 ops.
Kind of thinking of more of a me2 story if you take away the collectors part. Be part of cerberus, or be alliance...playing solo you may be able to use imported saves.
I know all the problems this could give (different storylines, e.g. Being a future excerberus to being a quarian. Then even more for coop)
But just wanted to throw the idea out there, tbh when they anounced mp i was expecting to have story driven missions with swtor convo system apart from horde mode.
Also hacimg read some posts here i'd rather go with darth brotarian's idea.
Kind of thinking of more of a me2 story if you take away the collectors part. Be part of cerberus, or be alliance...playing solo you may be able to use imported saves.
I know all the problems this could give (different storylines, e.g. Being a future excerberus to being a quarian. Then even more for coop)
But just wanted to throw the idea out there, tbh when they anounced mp i was expecting to have story driven missions with swtor convo system apart from horde mode.
Also hacimg read some posts here i'd rather go with darth brotarian's idea.
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For what it's worth (seeing as ME4 has already been written), here's a few story ideas. All of these are post-ME3 and should incorporate the 3 main endings I think.
1) Deus Ex storyline - The Reapers were supposedly created to stop humanity from creating the means to their own destruction - AI and technology - so with the reapers and mass effect relays gone, the galaxy uses the reaper tech (destroyed, controlledo or synthesized) to rebuild and launches the galaxy into a new golden age by managing to reclaim galaxy-wide travel. A galaxy-wide virtual world is created too like the geth virtual world/matrix. All the races of the galaxy become more and more synthesized with technology and integrated with AIs to help achieve their goals but unknowingly make themselves vulnerable to the evil intentions of some group or maybe a rogue A.I. or some individual bent on achieving transendence like the reapers through technology. A technological plague is unleashed, or people start becoming imprisoned in the matrix, or an evil geth-like race of AI robots creates an army to wipe out the galaxy. You are a human spectre who lives some time after the events of ME3 who uncovers the risk that the technology poses to the galaxy and must finish the job that Shepard started keeping the Galaxy safe - from those that wish to harm them through their technology - and prevent the destruction of all life that the reapers were created to prevent.
2) Time Travel storyline - since I'm honestly just riffing here, I like #1 the best but maybe some time travel could be incorporated somehow. This is a sci-fi genre after all and the possibilities would be endless. Imagine being able to go back in time to influence the past wars (Contact War, Rachni War, etc). Maybe your influence is necessary for them to occur the way they happen in lore. Maybe a reaper can time travel and was sent back to undo what Shepard did. You are a human spectre after the events of ME3. The galaxy has been rebuilt thanks to reaper tech. The council discovers a time machine on a distant planet. Someone evil tries to use it to destroy the galaxy or bring back the reapers. You have to follow them through time to stop them. This one should keep the writers busy.
3) Extra-galactic invaders. What if the reapers, living out there in deep space, were also keeping the galaxy safe from invaders beyond the galaxy inbetween their cyclical reaping? With the reapers gone, what if those extra-galactic invaders well... invade? What if they are equal to if not more advanced then the reapers, and threaten to destroy the galaxy even worse than before? You get the idea.
Well, that's it for my story ideas. Just off the top of my head. It's definitely possible to have some big plots make sense after ME3 with all 3 endings taken into account I think.
