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[GuardianJosh]

Harrier 1 burns through ammo too fast, I'm waiting for it to level up. 100 rounds isn't enough. I'd rather not hug ammo crates all the time. Talon's also a shotgun essentially and I prefer ARs, pistols and SMGs.

Modifié par GuardianJosh, 20 novembre 2012 - 04:23 .

[PingPangDaPanda]

Liefglinde wrote...

I am now inspired to go spec out of Bloodlust on my Vorcha, Stim pack on my Turians, Charge on my Vanguards, and Cloak on my Infiltrators.

Yeah not really.

I'm ready to make a HM-less Geth Infiltrator, Non Arc Grenade Quarian Male, and a Destroyer with no Devastator Mode.

[dbushik]

ToLazy4Name wrote...

No offense man, but honestly, anything works on difficulties below Gold.

Not saying you're bad or that you shouldn't play her like that, but that's my assessment.

Agreed.

[RGFrog]

Rock on OP. I usually spec out of fitness... I think.

Man, I need to dust off the furry.

[Liefglinde]

PingPangDaPanda wrote...

Liefglinde wrote...

I am now inspired to go spec out of Bloodlust on my Vorcha, Stim pack on my Turians, Charge on my Vanguards, and Cloak on my Infiltrators.

Yeah not really.

I'm ready to make a HM-less Geth Infiltrator, Non Arc Grenade Quarian Male, and a Destroyer with no Devastator Mode.

HM-less Geth can be viable at least, as shown by those who spec out of it because they don't like the brightness.

[Star fury]

And what is the difference between asari adept and AF-less fury? You took away your main offensive&defensive weapon.

[N7 ElusiveOne]

Liefglinde wrote...

I am now inspired to go spec out of Bloodlust on my Vorcha, Stim pack on my Turians, Charge on my Vanguards, and Cloak on my Infiltrators.

Yeah not really.

You should spec out of throw and keep AF.

[UnRestrikted]

Im a Fury expert. I would never play with a non-AF build on Gold/Platinum, but if it works for you then so be it.

AF is a must for me (I only play Gold and Platinum) as Im often in CQC with a hit-and-run technique. Dark Channel is used as a debuff for bosses so they cant regenerate shields/barriers. On regular mooks, it stuns them so I can shoot 'em up.

Then again, my Fury is equipped with an Indra and a few people would hate on that too. My point is that it's your character/build, play however you want (just as long as you're not a liability on the battlefield).

[PingPangDaPanda]

Liefglinde wrote...

PingPangDaPanda wrote...

Liefglinde wrote...

I am now inspired to go spec out of Bloodlust on my Vorcha, Stim pack on my Turians, Charge on my Vanguards, and Cloak on my Infiltrators.

Yeah not really.

I'm ready to make a HM-less Geth Infiltrator, Non Arc Grenade Quarian Male, and a Destroyer with no Devastator Mode.

HM-less Geth can be viable at least, as shown by those who spec out of it because they don't like the brightness.

I guess, but I personally don't mind it at all.

[Liefglinde]

Pylon-less Demolisher go.

[DJ Airsurfer]

GuardianJosh wrote...
Elitist much? Some us like Silver, jackass. And the Argus is great.

Saying that everything works on Bronze/Silver and that not everything works on Gold/Platinum is not being elitist, it's the truth. 

[Learn To Love Yourself]

OP, play how you want to play. It is good that you are experimenting with builds outside of the status quo. I would personally never spec out of AF, but that of course shouldn't stop you from doing so.

People used to laugh at my Reaveless Drell Adept, Smashless Phoenix Adept, Overloadless Geth Engineer, Devastator Modeless Destroyer, and my Shield Boostless Volus. Even my closest friends joined in the laughter. But then it happened...

I got 3rd place on Bronze. It hasn't happened since because the 4th place guy kind of disappeared, in a sense. It was tragic because he had such a bright future. He was an only child, too. I kind of feel bad for teabagging him on extraction wave the last game we played together, that very game I got 3rd on.

I'm sure he's smiling at your build from Heaven.

[DJ Airsurfer]

Jack Crapper wrote...
I got 3rd place on Bronze.

Not sure if making the point that the build is bad, or if you consider third place on bronze to be good.

[GuardianJosh]

Star fury wrote...

And what is the difference between asari adept and AF-less fury? You took away your main offensive&defensive weapon.

Teleport dodge, DC. I like phasing through things. DC is similar to Warp, sure, but Warp doesn't transfer.

[krknight]

dbushik wrote...

ToLazy4Name wrote...

No offense man, but honestly, anything works on difficulties below Gold.

Not saying you're bad or that you shouldn't play her like that, but that's my assessment.

Agreed.

eh, what's the difference when you're using mods and consumables for gold?  

although i'd never spec out of AF personally, i could easily take OP's build into gold and do all right.  just add mods and consumables like everyone else.  now if you're all talking about "gold-viable" without mods and consumables, that's different.

[neilthecellist]

Max AF
Max Dark Channel
Max Throw
Max N7 Training
Zero Fitness

Gold/Platinum only:
Use acolyte, cast dark channel, then fire one acolyte shot to strip shields. Cast dark channel. Fire one more acolyte shot to stun enemy and take more health away from enemy. Detonate Dark Channel with Throw. Fire acolyte shot at enemy that DC transferred to (to strip shields). Fire another throw to detonate the second DC.

If enemies get too close, fire acolyte, then fire throw to detonate AF.

DO NOT TAKE COVER. The "cover" system is pointless for any class. If you haven't figured it out yet, "hug" walls. Try to have it so that your character's weapon is pointing to the right side of a wall. You are still protected from fire, but aren't getting shot at by taking cover, (having to peak out from cover (which exposes your entire body to weapons fire)). My friends and I use this concept to not take any damage at all. The past few Gold and Platinum games I played, I never had to resurrect anyone because none of us took cover, we just hugged walls.

I have not been anything except 1st or 2nd place with this place style on Gold and Platinum.

Modifié par neilthecellist, 20 novembre 2012 - 04:39 .

[tatski]

I'm all for experimental builds as long as it's somewhat effective on higher difficulties and fun... Sometimes cookiecutter builds can get boring.. But in this case a Fury without AF is no fun at all. A Human Sent/AA/HA can pretty much do the stuff she does if you leave AF behind..

Modifié par tatski, 20 novembre 2012 - 04:42 .

[Mister_Faust]

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[mackfactor]

I think the responses are coming off wrong. Yes, a non-AF Fury is usable. Of course it is. It's obviously not as powerful as a full AF spec, though.

I think the issue is that everyone knows what the non-AF Fury can do, because it's very similar to what a lot of other Adepts do. I think that people are calling the OP out for presenting an "unconventional" build that is really not unconventional at all.

[neilthecellist]

tatski wrote...

I'm all for experimental builds as long as it's somewhat effective on higher difficulties and fun... Sometimes cookiecutter builds can get boring.. But in this case a Fury without AF is no fun at all. A Human Sent/AA/HA can pretty much do the stuff she does if you leave AF behind..

Not necessarily. A Sentinel, AA, or HA can't detonate as many combos as an N7 Fury.

If you are fighting close quarters, and hugging a left side wall (peaking right without taking cover) you can cast dark channel, fire acolyte, insta-kill with biotic explosion, quickly fire another throw to create another biotic explosion, and then quickly fire another throw to create yet ANOTHER biotic explosion if an enemy comes close to you (assuming AF is on), all in under 4 seconds.

Dark Channel alone, used, strategically, allows you to detonate multiple combos up to 5 times (maybe more? I haven't had more) with the same DC cast. 

Acolyte = 200% recharge speed = super fast Throw recharge rate 
Dark Channel = no need to recast it, the power transfers from enemy to enemy after an enemy is killed by DC

You can't do that that fast with any other class.

[NMD68]

Fury on gold with no AF, done loved honestly couldn't rly be bothered with it. Fury is squishy so I'd prefer to keep my distance

[krknight]

mackfactor wrote...

I think the responses are coming off wrong. Yes, a non-AF Fury is usable. Of course it is. It's obviously not as powerful as a full AF spec, though.

I think the issue is that everyone knows what the non-AF Fury can do, because it's very similar to what a lot of other Adepts do. I think that people are calling the OP out for presenting an "unconventional" build that is really not unconventional at all.

this.  it's basically a warp/throw build with one automatic primer instead of two.  she's my favorite character, but she's also a more user-friendly biotic hybrid. 

[etm125]

NMD68 wrote...

Fury on gold with no AF, done loved honestly couldn't rly be bothered with it. Fury is squishy so I'd prefer to keep my distance

I spec my fury as an asari valkyrie. Less squishy. But then again a lotta people here dont like the valk built that way. 

Edit: Didn't mean to come across as dickish, OP. some of the replies are a bit rough. Keep experimenting dude. 

Modifié par etm125, 20 novembre 2012 - 05:05 .

[tatski]

neilthecellist wrote...

tatski wrote...

I'm all for experimental builds as long as it's somewhat effective on higher difficulties and fun... Sometimes cookiecutter builds can get boring.. But in this case a Fury without AF is no fun at all. A Human Sent/AA/HA can pretty much do the stuff she does if you leave AF behind..

Not necessarily. A Sentinel, AA, or HA can't detonate as many combos as an N7 Fury.

If you are fighting close quarters, and hugging a left side wall (peaking right without taking cover) you can cast dark channel, fire acolyte, insta-kill with biotic explosion, quickly fire another throw to create another biotic explosion, and then quickly fire another throw to create yet ANOTHER biotic explosion if an enemy comes close to you (assuming AF is on), all in under 4 seconds.

Dark Channel alone, used, strategically, allows you to detonate multiple combos up to 5 times (maybe more? I haven't had more) with the same DC cast. 

Acolyte = 200% recharge speed = super fast Throw recharge rate 
Dark Channel = no need to recast it, the power transfers from enemy to enemy after an enemy is killed by DC

You can't do that that fast with any other class.

I still think they have similar playstyle...  You overlooked the debuffing properties of warp which is very good against bosses. IMO the difference in detonation speed would be barely noticeable since the other classes can also wield the Acolyte and besides if you're fighting CQC, detonations with AF will drop enemeis faster than DC primed explosions.

[BiowareHeph]

For best results, equip a Javelin and Predator ... and use the Predator the entire match.

Can't get more unorthodox than that!