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[Chaoswind]

DJ Airsurfer wrote...

FeralJester616 wrote...

DJ Airsurfer wrote...

krknight wrote...

does anyone know the statistics of the dot of warp versus that of dark channel? i can't find a specific thread or guide.

Why the flying fuuf does DoT matter? Your entire point that you're trying to make is that DC BEs are better than Warp BEs. To which I say, your arguments are bad and you should feel bad.

Your arguments are even worse than your grammar.

Its not really about the quality, Warp wins every time...
Its about the quantity and for that you'll get alot more Boom for your cooldown with Dark Channel.

Again with the retarded notion that someone is so dumb that they'd try to do the Warp+Throw combo ON A HUSK.

You know what's faster? One Acolyte shot. You don't prime a godforsaken trash mob with Warp unless it has armor. 

Besides, with AF you only need to walk up to a dude and cast Throw, which is better, faster, more efficient and not retarded unlike the DC spamming camping scrub build.

DC can't even take care of mooks in a DC+bioexplosion in gold+

[ZombieGambit]

What?

Annihilation Field + Throw + Dark Channel + Throw etc. Biotic Explosion chaining and shield replenishing (with Drain). That's what the Fury is meant to do. Your build is gimped, especially with that Argus.

Seriously, that's almost as bad as a Cloakless Infiltrator.

[LC-Manalishi]

DJ Airsurfer wrote...

krknight wrote...
because of the automatic primer.  warp has a long cooldown. 

Hey ******, both DC and Warp have a base cooldown of eight seconds.

You're correct that they both have the same cooldown, but it is 3.08 seconds. The base value = 8.

[Boog_89]

ZombieGambit wrote...

What?

Annihilation Field + Throw + Dark Channel + Throw etc. Biotic Explosion chaining and shield replenishing (with Drain). That's what the Fury is meant to do. Your build is gimped, especially with that Argus.

Seriously, that's almost as bad as a Cloakless Infiltrator.

My scores and lack of deaths using the build suggest otherwise, I honestly can't believe how terrible people are pretending not using field is.
I will leave now there is no point in arguing against the masses who laugh at a solid build before trying it. The sight of dead fury users with their fields active will continue to make me laugh.

[vivanto]

ZombieGambit wrote...
Seriously, that's almost as bad as a Cloakless Infiltrator.

The Huntress is a pretty good candidate for that actually, well, at least for a low-cloak build.

LC-Manalishi wrote...
You're correct that they both have the same cooldown, but it is 3.08 seconds. The base value = 8.

eight = 8
base = base
learn2read.

Modifié par vivanto, 20 novembre 2012 - 11:26 .

[krknight]

DJ Airsurfer wrote...



Again with the retarded notion that someone is so dumb that they'd try to do the Warp+Throw combo ON A HUSK.

You know what's faster? One Acolyte shot. You don't prime a godforsaken trash mob with Warp unless it has armor. 

Besides, with AF you only need to walk up to a dude and cast Throw, which is better, faster, more efficient and not retarded unlike the DC spamming camping scrub build.

it's an assessment of the situation.   i will definitely warp/throw BE a husk because of location and because they can't dodge warp.  

it's something called strategy.  in this case, you would be using the biotic explosion for containment or to push the mobs away from you, your teammates, or the objective.  if you had a choice between containment of a mob, or scattering them everywhere, most team players would prefer the containment.  

[krknight]

SlayerGP wrote...

@OP, no offence, but you can try any random build on Silver and still do decently The proper test of a good build comes on Gold/Platinum.

this has become a misconception after all the new gears, mods, weapons and ammo came out.  

Modifié par krknight, 20 novembre 2012 - 11:33 .

[krknight]

Boog_89 wrote...

ZombieGambit wrote...

What?

Annihilation Field + Throw + Dark Channel + Throw etc. Biotic Explosion chaining and shield replenishing (with Drain). That's what the Fury is meant to do. Your build is gimped, especially with that Argus.

Seriously, that's almost as bad as a Cloakless Infiltrator.

My scores and lack of deaths using the build suggest otherwise, I honestly can't believe how terrible people are pretending not using field is.
I will leave now there is no point in arguing against the masses who laugh at a solid build before trying it. The sight of dead fury users with their fields active will continue to make me laugh.

hahaha, that's the funniest post i've read in a while.  

[Computron2000]

Boog_89 wrote...

Cornughon wrote...

Wouldn't it be better to use a stasisless Asari Adept instead? More powerful Biotic Explosions such things?

This is probably like playing a Krogan Battlemaster specced out of Biotic Charge. You can do extemely well with it on Silver, but is far less effective on Gold or Platinum...

No.
Warp misses a lot but dark channel hits instantly and travels to other enemies when they die for faster explosions.
I have tried using the fury on gold and die a lot at close range if field+throw doesn't kill everything in 1 hit.  Much easier to stay alive playing longer range without field using channel and throw and a joy to not have to re-arm the thing constantly.

There's a reason why she has that teleport dodge.

[LC-Manalishi]

poonts wrote...

and enuff with "fury is only for mooks"

simply not true. go dance with a scion

This.

[Chaoswind]

Again don't jump on the OP, DC is more useful for sniper furys than AF, but that's it, if you want to snipe with a fury you may as well use any of the other 25 sniper builds that are much better.

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

krknight wrote...

DJ Airsurfer wrote...



Again with the retarded notion that someone is so dumb that they'd try to do the Warp+Throw combo ON A HUSK.

You know what's faster? One Acolyte shot. You don't prime a godforsaken trash mob with Warp unless it has armor. 

Besides, with AF you only need to walk up to a dude and cast Throw, which is better, faster, more efficient and not retarded unlike the DC spamming camping scrub build.

it's an assessment of the situation.   i will definitely warp/throw BE a husk because of location and because they can't dodge warp.  

it's something called strategy.  in this case, you would be using the biotic explosion for containment or to push the mobs away from you, your teammates, or the objective.  if you had a choice between containment of a mob, or scattering them everywhere, most team players would prefer the containment.  

Or you can kill the mooks with your gun, and Warp/Throw the bosses to kill the mooks around them.

[Computron2000]

krknight wrote...

DJ Airsurfer wrote...



Again with the retarded notion that someone is so dumb that they'd try to do the Warp+Throw combo ON A HUSK.

You know what's faster? One Acolyte shot. You don't prime a godforsaken trash mob with Warp unless it has armor. 

Besides, with AF you only need to walk up to a dude and cast Throw, which is better, faster, more efficient and not retarded unlike the DC spamming camping scrub build.

it's an assessment of the situation.   i will definitely warp/throw BE a husk because of location and because they can't dodge warp.  

it's something called strategy.  in this case, you would be using the biotic explosion for containment or to push the mobs away from you, your teammates, or the objective.  if you had a choice between containment of a mob, or scattering them everywhere, most team players would prefer the containment.  

It works in theory but not in practice. Husk AI is straight forward and they always move in a straight line towards their target. By the time you finishing cooldown for priming with warp, they are already out of BE range of the others so you kill 1 husk.

You could attempt to spin it by saying that you would anticipate the movement of the husk and BE exactly when it passes by a group but that only shows unawareness of the target selection process (meaning they change targets under certain conditions)

[krknight]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...


Or you can kill the mooks with your gun, and Warp/Throw the bosses to kill the mooks around them.

yeah, but the BE doesn't always kill the mooks around the boss and you most likely just scattered them.  now you have cannibals and marauders shooting at you and your team from various angles.  

if a spawn is coming at you, you can BE the husk that's closest to you and push the mob away from you.  the staggers and knockdowns allow you to headshot the mob much easier.  if you drop the husk with a headshot, then BE the marauder/banshee in the middle of the mob, you make a mess and spread out your targets all over the place.

but again, all of this is situational.  it's not the worst thing in the world to do BE a husk.   

Modifié par krknight, 20 novembre 2012 - 11:57 .

[krknight]

Computron2000 wrote...

It works in theory but not in practice. Husk AI is straight forward and they always move in a straight line towards their target. By the time you finishing cooldown for priming with warp, they are already out of BE range of the others so you kill 1 husk.

You could attempt to spin it by saying that you would anticipate the movement of the husk and BE exactly when it passes by a group but that only shows unawareness of the target selection process (meaning they change targets under certain conditions)

it is completely situational and not the most optimum strategy i agree.  but it actually happens more often than you give it credit.  if you have cannibals and marauders camping, who comes jogging through them?  

you now have one target not in cover and will not take cover.  you basically have a moving bomb and when you choose to detonate it is up to you. 

[Kuro_Fenikkusu]

krknight wrote...

Kuro_Fenikkusu wrote...

I run my fury on plat. Specced out of AF, and I rock an N7 Eagle. I come out on top 9/10 games.

can you enlighten all the naysayers with your build and loadout?

0/6/6/6/6

On platinum I usually use power amplifier, Adaptive Biotic Amp V, and sometimes I'll use warp rounds with my N7 Eagle II.

[Kuro_Fenikkusu]

VerySeed wrote...

Kuro_Fenikkusu wrote...

I run my fury on plat. Specced out of AF, and I rock an N7 Eagle. I come out on top 9/10 games.

That says something about your teammates, not your build.

And it says your teammates are terrible.

Actually my teammates are pretty good.  I don't know where thats coming from.  I play with two other people regularly and we usually have one random player join us for plat.  Everyone pulls their own weight.

[Hellfire257]

Soultaker? Is that you?

[Striker93175]

[Tankcommander]

Just because it isn't optimal for gold doesn't mean it doesn't work. AF makes Fury easymode, as you just run up to n00bs and detonate, casting DC every now and then for good measure.

I've run without AF once before just to screw around, and was just as effective as I would be with an Asari (actually more so, DC is fantastic). Is she gimped? No. Much less effective? Sure, but it is hard not be less effective then someone who can detonate everything just by running up to enemies.

[Barneyk]

etm125 wrote...

Everybody can play how they want but AF is amazing. The evo 6 shield drain adds a stupid amount of durability to any character with it. Movement speed buff, shield drain, AoE damage and  BE primer? Id ditch dark channel long before I gave up AF. 

I dont understand why youd use a fury if you dont want AF.

If don't like close combat fighting.
What point is it in AF then?

Dark Channel is awesome and throw is really fast, it is so satisfactory to set of 3-5 BEs in a row with just 1 dark channel and 3-5 throws!
And the mobility is cool, jumping through walls and up and down cliffs and stuff.

That is how I play her, if I wanna play close combat style with AF I use the Asari Sentinel with Tech Armor.

I top gold with her sometimes and sometimes not.

I am not good enough in close quarters combat to really benefit from AF, and I don't enjoy that playstyle as much either.
So, that is how I prefer to play.

Modifié par Barneyk, 20 novembre 2012 - 02:53 .

[Tankcommander]

Barneyk wrote...

etm125 wrote...

Everybody can play how they want but AF is amazing. The evo 6 shield drain adds a stupid amount of durability to any character with it. Movement speed buff, shield drain, AoE damage and  BE primer? Id ditch dark channel long before I gave up AF. 

I dont understand why youd use a fury if you dont want AF.

If don't like close combat fighting.
What point is it in AF then?

Dark Channel is awesome and throw is really fast, it is so satisfactory to set of 3-5 BEs in a row with just 1 dark channel and 3-5 throws!
And the mobility is cool, jumping through walls and up and down cliffs and stuff.

That is how I play her, if I wanna play close combat style with AF I use the Asari Sentinel with Tech Armor.

I top gold with her sometimes and sometimes not.

I am not good enough in close quarters combat to really benefit from AF, and I don't enjoy that playstyle as much either.
So, that is how I prefer to play.

Exactly. I don't like the Fury much because it degrades to running up to mobs and throwing for BEs. Gets rather old really quickly. I definitely see why some would spec out of AF, and really, she is still better than an Asari even when you do!

[stysiaq]

Hellfire257 wrote...

Soultaker? Is that you?

[Aiiro]

Honestly, as long as you kill the enemy and you don't take forever you can be using chicken nuggets as bullets for all I care.