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[Deadlysyns]

dreman9999 wrote...

I could spend my time trying to argue with all the haters in the topic but it would be a waste of time. I'll just say once the goty award are given out you'll be QQ here how wrong the game media is about who the goty award go to. Just how is the highest rate game of this is not going to get the goty award?

GOTY is overrated their can be like 20 GOTY's

[teh DRUMPf!!]

Because it's a soulless FPS?

[Sweawm]

dasGleamer wrote...

Article should explain why plot-hole ridden pieces of garbage shouldn't even be nominated.

Going to disagree there. I play Halo primarily, and perhaps only for, the story, being a long time fan of the novels. I didn't find the plot weak or having gaps at all. If anything, it's the best story in an actual Halo game since the second installment (in terms of just how much it fleshed out the universe), and I enjoyed how they took the gamble of bringing in the heavy weight plot/lore elements instead of playing it safe by going with another straight up Human Vs Covenant story. 

[Mcfly616]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...
And umm, ME3's combat far exceeded ME2's. Zombies....huh?

Not really, it's pretty much the same and I was referencing the zombies mode Black Ops has, which is much more satisfying then the boring crap ME3 multiplayer is.

nothing like Zombies.....whatsoever. It's a horde mode. Zombies is a horde mode as well. Halo's Firefight is a horde mode. Gears of war has a Horde mode. Each games version of Horde are all drastically different from eachother, other than the fact that the enemies come in waves.

[Jadebaby]

corporal doody wrote...

yup..he said it and i totally agree....ME3....BEST VIDEOGAME experience i have ever had....cept for the last 5-10minutes...which was fixed with the EC. a lot of people LET the pre-EC ending(s) ruin their entire ME....which is extremely sad and petty imho.

In your opinion. In my opinion you're seeing mediocrity as something good because the bar was set so low.

Where's James Cameron?

btw, I thought Halo4 didn't even get nominated for GOTY?

[Jadebaby]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

Because it's a soulless FPS?

Clearly you haven't played it.

[xAmilli0n]

Mass Effect tried to do something never done before.  3 games worth of choices that carried over.  It was original, it was exciting, and it was based in a great universe.  ME3 came out, and I think it for the most part met everyone's expectations...until the ending.  Regardless of how you feel about the EC, the fact is that the pre-EC was a devastating blow to many players, and the backlash was huge (people raise $80K to have it changed, remember the Retake Movement?).  This is why I cannot support ME3 for GOTY.

Now about Halo 4. 343i took the series that forever changed the FPS, and revived it with great success, and in a way I frankly didn't think was possible.  To put it simply, they made FPS exciting for me again with Halo 4.

Does Halo 4 deserve GOTY?  I don't know, I haven't played the other commonly mentioned games, but I do think it deserves consideration.  By you. Not the Spike VGAs.  Who even cares about those awards anyways?

[Vic-TIM of Circumstance]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

Because it's a soulless FPS?

Actually, I feel like this Halo has a ton of soul.  The feelings I felt in Halo 4 were about as strong as they were for Mass Effect 3.  For a character that seems to communicate primarily through actions, its extremely impressive in how they developed Master Chief

Modifié par Vic-TIM of Circumstance, 20 novembre 2012 - 06:44 .

[dorktainian]

JackumsD wrote...

ME3 is easily deserving of the nomination. The last five minutes of the game was the only significant negative, which was made better to a degree via the EC. Everyone has a right to their own opinion, but to try and pass the game off as objectively bad just makes you look like an entitled ingrate.

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Deadlysyns wrote...
The Story made Sense its just people who can't accept it who think it was full of plotholes 

All I ever hear from people who say this is "LA LA LA It makes sense shutup!" while everyone else says "This is why it doesn't work A, B, C, D... etc."

Maybe they don't care enough for your negativity to debate the topic?

debate?  mass effect 3 game of the year?  seriously?  there is no debate.....

then again money talks.  if it wins it will be a massive shame that it denies more deserving titles.

joourney should win it.  borderlands 2 is much more deserving. 

[Mcfly616]

Sweawm wrote...

dasGleamer wrote...

Article should explain why plot-hole ridden pieces of garbage shouldn't even be nominated.

Going to disagree there. I play Halo primarily, and perhaps only for, the story, being a long time fan of the novels. I didn't find the plot weak or having gaps at all. If anything, it's the best story in an actual Halo game since the second installment (in terms of just how much it fleshed out the universe), and I enjoyed how they took the gamble of bringing in the heavy weight plot/lore elements instead of playing it safe by going with another straight up Human Vs Covenant story. 

weird....I myself am a longtime Halo fan. Purchased every release on Day 1. I also read the novels. But I think Halo 4 is the series' best campaign since Combat Evolved. Simply, because I find Halo 2's plot direction and overall story pretty damn bad....like, borderline ridiculous. Lol (it did "flesh" out the universe though)

[xAmilli0n]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

Because it's a soulless FPS?

If there is anything Halo 4 did, it was show an FPS can indeed have a soul.  If you haven't played it, I recommend you do.

[dasGleamer]

JackumsD wrote...

ME3 is easily deserving of the nomination. The last five minutes of the game was the only significant negative, which was made better to a degree via the EC. Everyone has a right to their own opinion, but to try and pass the game off as objectively bad just makes you look like an entitled ingrate.

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Deadlysyns wrote...
The Story made Sense its just people who can't accept it who think it was full of plotholes 

All I ever hear from people who say this is "LA LA LA It makes sense shutup!" while everyone else says "This is why it doesn't work A, B, C, D... etc."

Maybe they don't care enough for your negativity to debate the topic?

i'm not sure how you overlook an ending so bad that it not only affected the game itself, but the two epic masterpieces before it.

i'd say just the opposite... the last 5 minutes were so bad that they should go back and revoked ME1's and ME2's GOTY status

[Binary_Helix 1]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Plotholes?

And umm, ME3's combat far exceeded ME2's. Zombies....huh?

Maybe if you like silly rolls, easy gameplay, overpowered casters, and little to no class differences anymore (plenty do)

Otherwise ME2 was superior. High difficulty, no stupid space ninjas, stronger rpg mechanics (class and squad matter).

ha. So because you find ME2 more difficult, its better? Lol clunkiest controls ever. Stronger RPG mechanics?! Really? I'm sorry but I'm not even going to acknowledge this one. Ridiculous statement. Weapons pretty much all blow, no customization...I could go on about how awful the plot is or how linear and predictable the level design is, but that would go on forever

ME2 blows ME3 away in challenge. The difficulty was massively toned down so people like you could no doubt love it. In ME2 the class differences are also very stark. Come ME3 anyone can use any weapon and since the enemy defenses don't mean anything who cares about squad selection. Since you can roll and have unlimited sprint who cares about tactics anymore either? The weapons were also vastly better than in ME3. They had damage multipliers and all the guns packed a punch and served a purpose. The "customization" now is mostly an illusion. Components of the guns removed to be added in piecemeal.

Modifié par Binary_Helix 1, 20 novembre 2012 - 07:37 .

[ld1449]

Mcfly616 wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

how bout because it isn't nominated for game of the year???

Huh? Now that I think about it that could be a major obstacle. Not even being on the list.

It was released too late for consideration. Otherwise Halo 4 would have won hands down. As it is, my money is on AC3

umm its too late for the Spike VGA's.(which are pretty much illegitimate) But it will certainly be nominated by every other major publication out there. They don't release their results in late January usually. Just for reference, Skyrim came out on 11/11/11 and won 2011 game of the year. Halo 4 came out 11/6/12. Not too late at all. Not sure where you're getting your information

My mistake then. I never followed any of the game of the year people period because quite frankly it didn't matter to me one way or another save for the threads that poped up here which linked to the spike VGA's which I saw about five minutes of once before deciding to skip to something that would be marginally more preferable VH1 That way I felt just like slapping my forehead rather than beating my skull against a wall.

[dreman9999]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Deadlysyns wrote...
The Story made Sense its just people who can't accept it who think it was full of plotholes 

All I ever hear from people who say this is "LA LA LA It makes sense shutup!" while everyone else says "This is why it doesn't work A, B, C, D... etc."

I , and many others , have explaine why it makes sense a billion time. It's you who has their finger stuck in his ears.

[corporal doody]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Deadlysyns wrote...
its still original Halo 4 is just another FPS

ME3 is hardly original. Deus Ex:HR, Alpha Protocol, Fallout, etc.

WOOOOOO....WTF did i just read????


Alpha Protocol is a clone of ME.....A VERY BAD ONE!!

i have strongly disagreed with a bit of the things you have said in the past....But comparing Mass Effect 3 to Alpha Protocol is the last straw hambone.

I can no longer take anything you say with any kind of seriousness.

[Mcfly616]

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Plotholes?

And umm, ME3's combat far exceeded ME2's. Zombies....huh?

Maybe if you like silly rolls, easy gameplay, overpowered casters, and little to no class differences anymore (plenty do)

Otherwise ME2 was superior. High difficulty, no stupid space ninjas, stronger rpg mechanics (class and squad matter).

ha. So because you find ME2 more difficult, its better? Lol clunkiest controls ever. Stronger RPG mechanics?! Really? I'm sorry but I'm not even going to acknowledge this one. Ridiculous statement. Weapons pretty much all blow, no customization...I could go on about how awful the plot is or how linear and predictable the level design is, but that would go on forever

ME2 blows ME3 away in challenge. The difficulty was massively toned down so people like you could no doubt love it. In ME2 the class differences are also very stark. Come ME3 anyone can use any weapon and since the enemy defences don't mean anything who cares about squad selection. Since you can roll and have unlimited sprint who cares about tactics anymore either? The weapons were also vastly better than in ME3. They had damage multipliers and all the guns packed a punch and served a purpose. The "customization" now is mostly an illusion. Componets of the guns removed to be added in piecemal.

people like me? Lol you're an ignorant troll. You know nothing about me or the games I play lol. Clown. Besides, I only ever play on insanity. But unlike you, I don't use difficulty as a primary basis for deciding if a game is GOTY material. Nor do I think any publication really does. Things like Story, Characters, gameplay....they tend to be what people look at before they start handing out awards.

Guns packed more punch? Idk what game you were playing. Every gun had little to no kickback, and pretty much were all cookie cutter. Thankfully that problem was rectified in ME3. Each weapon now feels unique.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

I was just trollan.


Calling games in the Halo series "soulless" is just a running-joke for HYR.

[dreman9999]

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Plotholes?

And umm, ME3's combat far exceeded ME2's. Zombies....huh?

Maybe if you like silly rolls, easy gameplay, overpowered casters, and little to no class differences anymore (plenty do)

Otherwise ME2 was superior. High difficulty, no stupid space ninjas, stronger rpg mechanics (class and squad matter).

ha. So because you find ME2 more difficult, its better? Lol clunkiest controls ever. Stronger RPG mechanics?! Really? I'm sorry but I'm not even going to acknowledge this one. Ridiculous statement. Weapons pretty much all blow, no customization...I could go on about how awful the plot is or how linear and predictable the level design is, but that would go on forever

ME2 blows ME3 away in challenge. The difficulty was massively toned down so people like you could no doubt love it. In ME2 the class differences are also very stark. Come ME3 anyone can use any weapon and since the enemy defenses don't mean anything who cares about squad selection. Since you can roll and have unlimited sprint who cares about tactics anymore either? The weapons were also vastly better than in ME3. They had damage multipliers and all the guns packed a punch and served a purpose. The "customization" now is mostly an illusion. Components of the guns removed to be added in piecemeal.

Me2 was slower, cluckyer, with worse rpg elements. That was the only reason why it was harder. It forces you to main a gun on every class. ME3 atleast is faster, more versile , has custumization, and a way better rpg system. And ME3 is not a mindless shotting spree you think it is.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Halo 4 has a soul. It has a very good story especially for a first person shooter. The multiplayer is great as well. What about Borderlands 2? It was a blast to play. And Black Ops II where your choices matter.

What worries me is that if ME3 wins GOTY, that the ending will become the standard for video games of the future. Everyone will be copying it and we'll be seeing a version of glowboy at the end of the game and no resolution; instead just emptiness and speculations. Then I'll find something else to do.

[corporal doody]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

yup..he said it and i totally agree....ME3....BEST VIDEOGAME experience i have ever had....cept for the last 5-10minutes...which was fixed with the EC. a lot of people LET the pre-EC ending(s) ruin their entire ME....which is extremely sad and petty imho.

In your opinion. In my opinion you're seeing mediocrity as something good because the bar was set so low.

Where's James Cameron?

btw, I thought Halo4 didn't even get nominated for GOTY?

80's James Cameron...maybe. James Cameron 90's+? HELLZ NO
Titanic = overrated.
Avatar= nothing original....just a bunch of stuff mixed together....but mixed very well. Freakin White Messiah.

set low? no. 

With the expectations for ME3...after the success of ME1 and 2...combined with the failure of DAII...WERE TOO F***** High imho. There was nothing BW could do to live up to those expectations with ME3. AND there is NOTHING BW can do to live with expectations THAT STILL EXIST FOR THE GAME EVEN AFTER IT WAS RELEASED almost 9 MONTHS AGO.

Modifié par corporal doody, 20 novembre 2012 - 07:05 .

[Jadebaby]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

I was just trollan.


Calling games in the Halo series "soulless" is just a running-joke for HYR.

Maybe you should update your jokes. You refer to yourself in the 3rd person so you must have some sense of egoitis. Wouldn't want it to be tarnished by outdated jokes like "why did the chicken cross the road?"

[Binary_Helix 1]

Mcfly616 wrote...


 people like me? Lol you're an ignorant troll. You know nothing about me or the games I play lol. Clown. Besides, I only ever play on insanity. But unlike you, I don't use difficulty as a primary basis for deciding if a game is GOTY material. Nor do I think any publication really does. Things like Story, Characters, gameplay....they tend to be what people look at before they start handing out awards.

Guns packed more punch? Idk what game you were playing. Every gun had little to no kickback, and pretty much were all cookie cutter. Thankfully that problem was rectified in ME3. Each weapon now feels unique.

I know exactly who are what you are. Your crap posts pollute BSN. Also you've bragged about trolling retakers on other gaming forums so spare me your high and mighty attitude. I never said gameplay should be the only measure of GOTY.

Kickback was a stupid new mechanic that runied more guns than it helped. Revenant and Vindicator don't even play like their ME2 counterparts anymore. Most of the popular guns in ME3 are DLC weapons which have ME2 type stats like inate armor piercing and damage multipliers. That's not good weapon balance and an indirect admission of a mistake in my view.

Modifié par Binary_Helix 1, 20 novembre 2012 - 07:08 .

[Jadebaby]

corporal doody wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

yup..he said it and i totally agree....ME3....BEST VIDEOGAME experience i have ever had....cept for the last 5-10minutes...which was fixed with the EC. a lot of people LET the pre-EC ending(s) ruin their entire ME....which is extremely sad and petty imho.

In your opinion. In my opinion you're seeing mediocrity as something good because the bar was set so low.

Where's James Cameron?

btw, I thought Halo4 didn't even get nominated for GOTY?

Titanic = overrated.
Avatar= nothing original....just a bunch of stuff mixed together....but mixed very well. Freakin White Messiah.

set low? no. 

With the expectations for ME3...after the success of ME1 and 2...combined with the failure of DAII...WERE TOO F***** High imho. There was nothing BW could do to live up to those expectations with ME3. AND there is NOTHING BW can do to live with expectations THAT STILL EXIST FOR THE GAME EVEN AFTER IT WAS RELEASED almost 9 MONTHS AGO.

---- Joke ----



---- Your head ----

That's crap. They could have done much more if they had more time (EA's fault) and if they had of planned the god damn story so they could *foreshadow* the ending, at least. And I know it was set low because I did my back trying to pick it up (with IT).

[ld1449]

dreman9999 wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Deadlysyns wrote...
The Story made Sense its just people who can't accept it who think it was full of plotholes 

All I ever hear from people who say this is "LA LA LA It makes sense shutup!" while everyone else says "This is why it doesn't work A, B, C, D... etc."

I , and many others , have explaine why it makes sense a billion time. It's you who has their finger stuck in his ears.

Dreman. I've seen your posts. And quite frankly between you and Blueprotoss I'm not exactly sure which of you two is the more deluded.

You make sense to yourself, and the whole thread is talking about apples and you wind up talking about pumpkins then say your points were never rebuffed.

Rather hard to do that when you can't even follow the same page of the conversation.