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Article: "Why Halo 4 won't win Game of the Year." (and why games like Borderlands 2, Journey, and Mass Effect 3 will)


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Jade8aby88 wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

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yup..he said it and i totally agree....ME3....BEST VIDEOGAME experience i have ever had....cept for the last 5-10minutes...which was fixed with the EC. a lot of people LET the pre-EC ending(s) ruin their entire ME....which is extremely sad and petty imho.


In your opinion. In my opinion you're seeing mediocrity as something good because the bar was set so low.

Where's James Cameron?

btw, I thought Halo4 didn't even get nominated for GOTY?


Titanic = overrated.
Avatar= nothing original....just a bunch of stuff mixed together....but mixed very well. Freakin White Messiah.

set low? no. 

With the expectations for ME3...after the success of ME1 and 2...combined with the failure of DAII...WERE TOO F***** High imho. There was nothing BW could do to live up to those expectations with ME3. AND there is NOTHING BW can do to live with expectations THAT STILL EXIST FOR THE GAME EVEN AFTER IT WAS RELEASED almost 9 MONTHS AGO.


---- Joke ----



---- Your head ----

That's crap. They could have done much more if they had more time (EA's fault) and if they had of planned the god damn story so they could *foreshadow* the ending, at least. And I know it was set low because I did my back trying to pick it up (with IT).


if it was a joke, it was bad...you gonna have to spell it out for me.


I agree with you on that...the EA thing. we all know if given more time, ME3 could have been so much more....but alas.  DLC helps alittle in this regard atleas.

SO lemme say...WITH WHAT BW was able to do with ME3.....im content and do think it is a serious contender for GOTY.



EDIT: ah....got it..the James Cameron thing...word. and i dont subscribe to IT. it IS a wonderful fanfic though

Modifié par corporal doody, 20 novembre 2012 - 07:12 .


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Arguing with Dreman.

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dreman9999 wrote...

Me2 was slower, cluckyer, with worse rpg elements. That was the only reason why it was harder. It forces you to main a gun on every class. ME3 atleast is faster, more versile , has custumization, and a way better rpg system. And ME3 is not a mindless shotting spree you think it is.


ME2 was slower and ME1 was even more slower. Slow paced combat is the soul of ME gameplay. Deviating from that puts you in Gears of War category and no  longer in the rpg shooter category. Some might consider that progress but others don't.

Modifié par Binary_Helix 1, 20 novembre 2012 - 07:14 .


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dasGleamer wrote...

Article should explain why plot-hole ridden pieces of garbage shouldn't even be nominated.

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Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Me2 was slower, cluckyer, with worse rpg elements. That was the only reason why it was harder. It forces you to main a gun on every class. ME3 atleast is faster, more versile , has custumization, and a way better rpg system. And ME3 is not a mindless shotting spree you think it is.


ME2 was slower and ME1 was even more slower. Slow paced combat is the soul of ME gameplay. Deviating from that puts you in Gears of War categoy and no  longer in the rpg shooter category. Some might consider that progress but others don't.



overall.....imho...if they could have taken ME1 overall feel...put in ME3's combat....and  ME2's difficulty...I WOULD NEVER PLAY ANOTHER GAME.....EVER!!!


edit:....AND BEING ABLE TO PLAY OTHER RACES IN SP!! gotta have that.

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corporal doody wrote...


SO lemme say...WITH WHAT BW was able to do with ME3.....im content and do think it is a serious contender for GOTY.


Well that actually depends. They have a seperate category for DLC so will ME3 be judged as a stock game without dlc?

If so it doesn't have a hope in hell. The very fact it needed an Extended Cut, in and of itself, should seriously hurt it's chances. No other game this year has needed it.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

corporal doody wrote...


SO lemme say...WITH WHAT BW was able to do with ME3.....im content and do think it is a serious contender for GOTY.


Well that actually depends. They have a seperate category for DLC so will ME3 be judged as a stock game without dlc?

If so it doesn't have a hope in hell. The very fact it needed an Extended Cut, in and of itself, should seriously hurt it's chances. No other game this year has needed it.



Do i think stock by itself would be able to compete.....minus the last 5-10minutes......YES....

but as i said in an earlier post....ill be damned if i let the last few minutes ruin my ENTIRE experience with not only ME3..but all of ME.


edit: besides...how many GOTY awards did Fallout 3 get pre-ending dlc.

Modifié par corporal doody, 20 novembre 2012 - 07:22 .


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You can't say without the last 5-10 minutes haha! XD

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You can't say without the last 5-10 minutes haha! XD


so...with them...even if i didnt care much for them pre-EC....yes.

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corporal doody wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

You can't say without the last 5-10 minutes haha! XD


so...with them...even if i didnt care much for them pre-EC....yes.




You hesitated there for a moment. *Squints*

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ld1449 wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

You can't say without the last 5-10 minutes haha! XD


so...with them...even if i didnt care much for them pre-EC....yes.




You hesitated there for a moment. *Squints*


look....i didnt care much for the original endings...at all. they were confusing as hell. I didnt rage or join the REtake crowd.  BW fixed it with the EC.

even with the badly done endings...do i think ME3 is GOTY material? HELLZ YES!!

close to 9 months after release....we are still passionately (though quite often angrily) talking about the game. How many games released this year have had the same staying power? 


edit: I meant SINGLE PLAYER...dont you dare start chucking Multiplayer...though the ME3MP is still around and kicking...even though it is just a horde mode....which is a testiment to our love for ME.
 
edit 2: and...well.....ME3MP continued survival just shows that ME can exist without an RPG element...which would be very sad.....i'd probably still buy it though.

Modifié par corporal doody, 20 novembre 2012 - 07:32 .


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corporal doody wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

You can't say without the last 5-10 minutes haha! XD


so...with them...even if i didnt care much for them pre-EC....yes.




You hesitated there for a moment. *Squints*


look....i didnt care much for the original endings...at all. they were confusing as hell. I didnt rage or join the REtake crowd.  BW fixed it with the EC.

even with the badly done endings...do i think ME3 is GOTY material? HELLZ YES!!

close to 9 months after release....we are still passionately (though quite often angrily) talking about the game. How many games released this year have had the same staying power? 


edit: I meant SINGLE PLAYER...dont you dare start chucking Multiplayer...though the ME3MP is still around and kicking...even though it is just a horde mode....which is a testiment to our love for ME.
 


Have to disagree with you're definition of "staying power" Starcraft, had staying power, Baldurs gate, had staying power, games that people plug in x years later and still play because of a bout of fond nostalgia, have staying power.

We're discussing 9 months later how bad of a ****up it is and how many can't play the game (OR EVEN ITS PREDECESORS) again. That's not staying power. For it to have the ability to not only destroy itself like the SW prequels but also go even further and ruin what came before it for people? That's being remembered for all the wrong reasons.

Would you say the SW prequels have staying power? No. People talk about them with disdain, the younger crowd George Lucas tried so hard to enrapture thinned out and moved on to other better things. The same thing will happen with ME3 down the road mark my words.

That's "staying power" as a cautionary tale on how not to conclude your game. And that's not Game of the Year Material. DLC or no DLC.

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ld1449 wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

You can't say without the last 5-10 minutes haha! XD


so...with them...even if i didnt care much for them pre-EC....yes.




You hesitated there for a moment. *Squints*


look....i didnt care much for the original endings...at all. they were confusing as hell. I didnt rage or join the REtake crowd.  BW fixed it with the EC.

even with the badly done endings...do i think ME3 is GOTY material? HELLZ YES!!

close to 9 months after release....we are still passionately (though quite often angrily) talking about the game. How many games released this year have had the same staying power? 


edit: I meant SINGLE PLAYER...dont you dare start chucking Multiplayer...though the ME3MP is still around and kicking...even though it is just a horde mode....which is a testiment to our love for ME.
 


Have to disagree with you're definition of "staying power" Starcraft, had staying power, Baldurs gate, had staying power, games that people plug in x years later and still play because of a bout of fond nostalgia, have staying power.

We're discussing 9 months later how bad of a ****up it is and how many can't play the game (OR EVEN ITS PREDECESORS) again. That's not staying power. For it to have the ability to not only destroy itself like the SW prequels but also go even further and ruin what came before it for people? That's being remembered for all the wrong reasons.

Would you say the SW prequels have staying power? No. People talk about them with disdain, the younger crowd George Lucas tried so hard to enrapture thinned out and moved on to other better things. The same thing will happen with ME3 down the road mark my words.

That's "staying power" as a cautionary tale on how not to conclude your game. And that's not Game of the Year Material. DLC or no DLC.


so what single player games that been released year you got champ?

and again...they fixed it....but alas...they didnt give us Cheeseburger crapping unicorns being ridden by naked asari kissing hawt chics in a land of gumdrops and rainbows.

BW cant win with folks HEREIN.....but just cuz YOU are dissatisfied...does it mean it isnt GOTY material?


It has been nominated.  so um.....yeah;)

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Because ME3 is a better game.

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All game companies will try to make their product appeal to the "younger" crowd, because generally, they are the demographic with the most free time.

It's sad because this often affects the product's quality.

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Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Because ME3 is a better game.


I love you.

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so what single player games that been released year you got champ?

and again...they fixed it....but alas...they didnt give us Cheeseburger crapping unicorns being ridden by naked asari kissing hawt chics in a land of gumdrops and rainbows.

BW cant win with folks HEREIN.....but just cuz YOU are dissatisfied...does it mean it isnt GOTY material?


It has been nominated.  so um.....yeah;)


And why must it be simplified with hapiness and and an oversimplification with you people. I do not dislike the ending because it isn't "happy" I despise the ending because it is in every way, and from every perspective and objective critera that can be measured, largely broken.

Do you believe a nomination means anthing? In videogames of all things? Its the most blatantly bought and sold event that can be measured. Even people who don't pay much attention to these things can see such. Do you think such things are legitimate?

And even if they are do you trully believe this game, outside of your belief and those Hereign (because this road goes both ways) that it will really win? Look at the comments within the VGA board. For every one person that says ME3, there are at least four mentioning AC3, three mentioning Journey.

As for games that "got me" this year, Xcom, the Artorias DLC revitalized Dark Souls, I have yet to play Dishonored or Halo but what I've seen, I've liked.

I have not played AC3 but given the fact it did not end with 80 thousand being raised in charity I'll take it to mean it was largely better than a game that required a fix that still leaves it very widely broken.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Because ME3 is a better game.


I love you.

<3

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Never mind.

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Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Because ME3 is a better game.


I love you.

<3


Why can't you get thost last few achievements for ME3? I swear they annoy me everytime!

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people seem to Forget Bioware didn't have to Release the EC

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ld1449 wrote...

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so what single player games that been released year you got champ?

and again...they fixed it....but alas...they didnt give us Cheeseburger crapping unicorns being ridden by naked asari kissing hawt chics in a land of gumdrops and rainbows.

BW cant win with folks HEREIN.....but just cuz YOU are dissatisfied...does it mean it isnt GOTY material?


It has been nominated.  so um.....yeah;)


And why must it be simplified with hapiness and and an oversimplification with you people. I do not dislike the ending because it isn't "happy" I despise the ending because it is in every way, and from every perspective and objective critera that can be measured, largely broken.

Do you believe a nomination means anthing? In videogames of all things? Its the most blatantly bought and sold event that can be measured. Even people who don't pay much attention to these things can see such. Do you think such things are legitimate?

And even if they are do you trully believe this game, outside of your belief and those Hereign (because this road goes both ways) that it will really win? Look at the comments within the VGA board. For every one person that says ME3, there are at least four mentioning AC3, three mentioning Journey.

As for games that "got me" this year, Xcom, the Artorias DLC revitalized Dark Souls, I have yet to play Dishonored or Halo but what I've seen, I've liked.

I have not played AC3 but given the fact it did not end with 80 thousand being raised in charity I'll take it to mean it was largely better than a game that required a fix that still leaves it very widely broken.




if being nominated means nothing....why are you making a post in a thread related to it?


and WTF do you mean by YOU PEOPLE?
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Mass Effect 3 better than Halo 4. Child please.

Assassin's Creed III ****s both of them sideways.

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people seem to Forget Bioware didn't have to Release the EC


I guess it shows how much profit they would have lost had they not.

Can you imagine the reaction to people playing Leviathan if there was no EC?

Edit: Agent 47 > Assassins.

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Deadlysyns wrote...

people seem to Forget Bioware didn't have to Release the EC


Do they want to make money?

Yes?

Then yes. They did.