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[shepskisaac]

TheRealJayDee wrote...

Journey or The Walking Dead for GOTY.

It's about time indies/arcades started winning GOTYs anyway. AAA blockbusters don't neet anymore promotion or recognition from the millions of salivating fans and press they already got, small games need it. Oscars help promote small movies that wouldn't get recognized otherwise, so should gaming awards. Nomination for GOTY for AAA blockbusters should be enough recognition, just like scoring a nomination for Best Picture is the highest honour a summer action flick can get

Modifié par IsaacShep, 20 novembre 2012 - 01:44 .

[Stalker]

Yes, lets act as if the Spike VGAs would have any credibility. They are a joke and that is commonly known between gamers.

Who cares what they nominate or crown...

[shepskisaac]

Mr Massakka wrote...

Yes, lets act as if the Spike VGAs would have any credibility. They are a joke and that is commonly known between gamers.

Who cares what they nominate or crown...

Unfortunately, they're the most watched gaming awards so yeah, they do matter. McDonalds ain't the best restaurant but it's popular so it does matter. So the best we can do is try to change the VGAs. They've been criticizied for their choices for the past decade and lookie look, this year 2 indie/arcade titles get nominated for GOTY. Something that never happened before, they didn't even nominate Limbo

[Anti-killer]

Halo 4 doesn't need to win GOTY to be known as a good game.

Oh, and it doesn't need to pay gaming reviewers to tell everyone how amazing it is.

Oh, and it doesn't tell everyone that Halo 4 is the best game to start with.

Modifié par Anti-killer, 20 novembre 2012 - 01:57 .

[Someone With Mass]

I'd rather give Halo 4 that nomination than the rush-job that is Mass Effect 3.

Not only does Halo 4 manage to pull off a story much better, it also sticks firmly to its establishments and it re-introduces an enemy that everyone thought was an ally in a much better and more logical way than what Mass Effect 3 did with Cerberus.

Not to mention that the ending didn't feel pretentious, forced and stupid, unlike ME3's ending.

If not, then Borderlands 2, since it managed to do a better co-op than Mass Effect 3. It had an infinitely more interesting villain than The Delusive Man who always claimed to be so much more but never proved it.

At least Handsome Jack isn't trying to hide the fact that he's a ******.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 20 novembre 2012 - 02:07 .

[ElSuperGecko]

dasGleamer wrote...
Article should explain why plot-hole ridden pieces of garbage shouldn't even be nominated.

To be honest I haven't played Halo 4 yet, but heard the story was pretty shocking... was it really that bad?

[spirosz]

Giving credibility to VGA's, stay classy.

[BD Manchild]

Someone With Mass wrote...
it re-introduces an enemy that everyone thought was an ally in a much better and more logical way than what Mass Effect 3 did with Cerberus.

Actually, I contend that point. Nowhere is it explained why we're apparently fighting the Covenant again in the game itself, aside from a blasé "A lot can change in four years"; you have to delve into the tie-in material to find out what's happening, which automatically alienates most casual fans from a major plot point. Even two lines of dialogue explaining it in  the game would have been sufficient. At least in ME3 you could kind-of see why Cerberus sunk to the levels they did because of what we learned about them over the course of the main trilogy. It's a shame as (aside from Del Rio, who's a bloody cartoon character) that's the only major fault with Halo 4's narrative, which I'd be inclined to agree is done a hell of a lot better than ME3's.

Back on point, why in the hell would anybody try to give the VGAs any shred of credibility? Awards ceremonies are usually utter bollocks as it is; the VGAs are like if somebody scraped the bottom of the barrel until they discovered an all-new bottom.

Modifié par BD Manchild, 20 novembre 2012 - 02:14 .

[Winterfly]

corporal doody wrote...

Winterfly wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

yup..he said it and i totally agree....ME3....BEST VIDEOGAME experience i have ever had....cept for the last 5-10minutes...which was fixed with the EC. a lot of people LET the pre-EC ending(s) ruin their entire ME....which is extremely sad and petty imho.

And who are you to proclaim this? Let people have their opinion. ME3 was inferior to the other games in the series. So much lack luster in the second half it was not fun. No exploration, Lack of roleplay options. Forced plotline and Cerberus made into a Star Wars villian organisation.


Real "fans" will not take anything, they will tell what is wrong. Not just sit there and nod. Seriously, stop thinking being a "real fan" means you love everything. 

you are joking right??? HAHAHAHA!!


PROCLAIM....my opinion...YES....so suck on it.   I PROCLAIMED MY OPINION CHIEF.  and spouting your opinion in rebutal aint gonna change my opinion. But i get that you think the game sucks...yet you continue to post on the board....so um...yeah

And i scoff at your "REAL FANS" BS.   The term is a joke on the BSN. WTF is a real fan?? everyone will say something different...so it means NOTHING.


REAL FANS let other REAL FANS touch their imaginary girlfriends!

It is not me jumping at peoples opinions, its you. Proclaiming they are not "real fans " and whiners. I can call you a militant fanboy, but I dont.

[Rafficus III]

I think ME3 takes the cake. I remember on this forum and other forums stating MP would flop by the end of the summer; it's still going strong. SP has garnered exemplary critic scores and is more than adequate in sparking an emotional response. 8 months later, this game is still largely relevant. It has sold at a faster pace than it's predecessors and is about to eclipse the best seller of the trilogy in a vastly shorter time frame. It has the notoriety, the publicity, and the uniqueness that sets it apart from other games. ME3 deserves a stab at GOTY despite BSN's complaints and criticisms. AC3 and Halo 4 are both prime choices and I do not mind if ME3 loses to them.

[Grubas]

Sorry i much rather reward 343i than bioware. From everything people say is that the game falls a little short, but is great on all other levels. Obviously 343i took the time necessary to finish and design it the way they wanted it to be, while bioware just did what they could achieve in a far to short time span.
Imagine ME3 fans would say the same nice things fans say about Halo now.

[XxBrokenBonezxX]

"Lets make it clear that I don't believe that the Spike Video Game Awards are a credible source for what is actually a good game. I feel that the VGA's are a commercialized joke of what a real video game award show should be"

He pretty much nailed it. Halo 4 and 343 are so much more deserving than Mass Effect. Haven't played Borderlands 2 or Journey, but I know I could never say a game that ruined one of the most beloved franchises ever was GOTY worthy. That's like saying TPM is on par with Empire.

[Someone With Mass]

BD Manchild wrote...

Actually, I contend that point. Nowhere is it explained why we're apparently fighting the Covenant again in the game itself, aside from a blasé "A lot can change in four years"; you have to delve into the tie-in material to find out what's happening, which automatically alienates most casual fans from a major plot point. Even two lines of dialogue explaining it in  the game would have been sufficient. At least in ME3 you could kind-of see why Cerberus sunk to the levels they did because of what we learned about them over the course of the main trilogy. It's a shame as (aside from Del Rio, who's a bloody cartoon character) that's the only major fault with Halo 4's narrative, which I'd be inclined to agree is done a hell of a lot better than ME3's.

They parked their asses outside Requiem shortly after the events of Halo 3 and had forever since tried to gain a way in. As the game explains without forcing you to find any Terminals.

They also refused to believe that their religion, which they've spent a long time following, was a lie (the religion is almost correct, since there is a Great Journey and it's only wrong about the way of starting it) and then they split away from the other Covenant which forged an alliance with the humans.

At least that makes sense and is somewhat easy to imagine without the game spilling out the expositions.

Cerberus is doing most things for evil laughs in ME3. If they wanted to control the Reapers, why not trick Shepard into believing that they're his allies until the right moment arrives and to try and siege control over the Crucible or try to convince Shepard that controlling the Reapers is the right thing to do through compelling arguments instead of always telling him that he's dumb for not wanting to see it their way?

[TheRealJayDee]

IsaacShep wrote...

So the best we can do is try to change the VGAs. They've been criticizied for their choices for the past decade and lookie look, this year 2 indie/arcade titles get nominated for GOTY. Something that never happened before, they didn't even nominate Limbo

Limbo was the first game ever that made me regret not having an Xbox. So glad it's out on other platforms now!
 
Anyways, yay for indie game love!

[Atherus]

I don´t know if Halo 4 deserves GOTY, bacause I don´t have a Xbox and as far as I know, there is no pc-version insight.

I personally wouldn´t nominate ME3 because of the original ending and if a game needs a dlc to fix that, in my opinion it doesn´t deserve to be GOTY anyway.

Besides that there were a few other things that bothered me, and if ME 3 get´s the Award, I think it will set the wrong impulses for the whole industry, that it´s ok, if certain components of your product are not working as they should (journal) or that you can bring your bonus content to a bar minimum (fetchquests instead of real sidequests, I mean you had some of them in ME 2 too, but it weren´t the majority and you could at least talk to the questgivers afterwards. In ME 3, I felt more like a Stalker then anything else).

So my bet would be Journey, because this were the best 2 hours of my gaming life for the last 2 years and I want to see more of this.

Modifié par Atherus, 20 novembre 2012 - 03:45 .

[Kel Riever]

corporal doody wrote...

yup..he said it and i totally agree....ME3....BEST VIDEOGAME experience i have ever had....cept for the last 5-10minutes...which was fixed with the EC. a lot of people LET the pre-EC ending(s) ruin their entire ME....which is extremely sad and petty imho.

Your last statement should be humble.  Because, while I do admire your ability to look back on the series you enjoy, despite the sh!t*y ending, you should also realize most people believe the ending to be the most important part of the project/story/whatever they are doing.  And that isn't a wrong way to think.  It is why movies, books, and any writer worthy of their name makes sure they don't screw up their ending.  And if they do, they don't make excuses for why they do.

The ending matters.  Having a choice in an rpg matters.  And if it matters enough for people to want to toss the game and the company that made it to the curb, they aren't a 'vocal minority.'  You have my congrats, for serious, on being able to enjoy the rest of the game.  I don't think most people are wrong for not being that way, though.

[davepissedatending]

If borederlands wins its a joke such a crap game

[TheWill]

i would have loved halo 4 so much more if there wasnt the constant - go here and press/destroy 3 things routine.. that got stale very quickly...

i would really love a level where we play the master chief out of his armour... show how much of a badass he really is.. show us it isnt just the suit ..you know...

[Iakus]

Walking Dead should win.

But it's not an action game, so it won't

[dreman9999]

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Me2 was slower, cluckyer, with worse rpg elements. That was the only reason why it was harder. It forces you to main a gun on every class. ME3 atleast is faster, more versile , has custumization, and a way better rpg system. And ME3 is not a mindless shotting spree you think it is.

ME2 was slower and ME1 was even more slower. Slow paced combat is the soul of ME gameplay. Deviating from that puts you in Gears of War category and no  longer in the rpg shooter category. Some might consider that progress but others don't.

Being forced to play slow combate is no a good thing. That'swhy it was changed.

[spirosz]

dreman9999 wrote...

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Me2 was slower, cluckyer, with worse rpg elements. That was the only reason why it was harder. It forces you to main a gun on every class. ME3 atleast is faster, more versile , has custumization, and a way better rpg system. And ME3 is not a mindless shotting spree you think it is.

ME2 was slower and ME1 was even more slower. Slow paced combat is the soul of ME gameplay. Deviating from that puts you in Gears of War category and no  longer in the rpg shooter category. Some might consider that progress but others don't.

Being forced to play slow combate is no a good thing. That'swhy it was changed.

Not a good thing for you, see the difference.

[dreman9999]

Someone With Mass wrote...

BD Manchild wrote...

Actually, I contend that point. Nowhere is it explained why we're apparently fighting the Covenant again in the game itself, aside from a blasé "A lot can change in four years"; you have to delve into the tie-in material to find out what's happening, which automatically alienates most casual fans from a major plot point. Even two lines of dialogue explaining it in  the game would have been sufficient. At least in ME3 you could kind-of see why Cerberus sunk to the levels they did because of what we learned about them over the course of the main trilogy. It's a shame as (aside from Del Rio, who's a bloody cartoon character) that's the only major fault with Halo 4's narrative, which I'd be inclined to agree is done a hell of a lot better than ME3's.

They parked their asses outside Requiem shortly after the events of Halo 3 and had forever since tried to gain a way in. As the game explains without forcing you to find any Terminals.

They also refused to believe that their religion, which they've spent a long time following, was a lie (the religion is almost correct, since there is a Great Journey and it's only wrong about the way of starting it) and then they split away from the other Covenant which forged an alliance with the humans.

At least that makes sense and is somewhat easy to imagine without the game spilling out the expositions.

Cerberus is doing most things for evil laughs in ME3. If they wanted to control the Reapers, why not trick Shepard into believing that they're his allies until the right moment arrives and to try and siege control over the Crucible or try to convince Shepard that controlling the Reapers is the right thing to do through compelling arguments instead of always telling him that he's dumb for not wanting to see it their way?

Wait a sec. What you said about Cerberus is totaly wrong. Everything they are doing they feel its a way to uplift and improve humanity. They are an extemist groupthe go to the exteme to get to there goals.
ME1 has cerberus make horrible test on people, ME2 has cerberus make horrible test on people,ME3  has cerberus make horrible test on people...Some how it makes no sense in ME3?

[dreman9999]

spirosz wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Me2 was slower, cluckyer, with worse rpg elements. That was the only reason why it was harder. It forces you to main a gun on every class. ME3 atleast is faster, more versile , has custumization, and a way better rpg system. And ME3 is not a mindless shotting spree you think it is.

ME2 was slower and ME1 was even more slower. Slow paced combat is the soul of ME gameplay. Deviating from that puts you in Gears of War category and no  longer in the rpg shooter category. Some might consider that progress but others don't.

Being forced to play slow combate is no a good thing. That'swhy it was changed.

Not a good thing for you, see the difference.

How is it not a good thing for me? They make the gameless cluckly and more nimble and somehow it's worse?