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[dasGleamer]

8 months later and i still can't look at any of the games without a feeling of being let down.  destroyed a masterpiece with these shenanigans.

hope it feels good to sell out bioware...i can only hope future sales reflect the disrespect towards fans

[Ticonderoga117]

It's funny how that happens when the creators go "Nah, to hell with logic, I want my game to deliver THIS message."

[DeinonSlayer]

...that coexistence is only possible if conformity is imposed from above, or one side will inevitably destroy the other?

[dasGleamer]

the whole concept is so stupid...

if they wanted to keep things realistic, then ME1 would end with extinction of all intelligent races and an end to the cycle. it's not plausible at all that shepard could single-handedly lead a resistance when every other cycle had failed.

and in ME2, they would die in transit while using the Omega Relay.

such a let down in order to make a few bucks and make a pointless statement

Modifié par dasGleamer, 20 novembre 2012 - 06:15 .

[Binary_Helix 1]

dasGleamer wrote...

such a let down in order to make a few bucks and make a pointless statement

I'm convinced they're embarrassed that they work in video games and get flack for it at their writer/artist cocktail parties.

That's why a final boss was "too video gamey" and why a conventional ending was dismissed as cliche and unsophisticated.

Modifié par Binary_Helix 1, 20 novembre 2012 - 06:23 .

[Vic-TIM of Circumstance]

I was extremely disappointed at the conclusion of Cerberus and I do feel like the ending plot feels a bit thematically isolated from the other games, but..... its all in the past now and I am actually very optimistic in a sequel. For 5 or so years, I completely immersed myself in the Mass Effect universe and I fell in love with the setting and the lore. I can't bring myself to just give up on something like that. I think that if they plan a trilogy with a specific theme and conclusion in mind, I believe they are capable of creating one of the better games I will ever play.

[liggy002]

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

dasGleamer wrote...

such a let down in order to make a few bucks and make a pointless statement

I'm convinced they're embarrassed that they work in video games and get flack for it at their writer/artist cocktail parties.

That's why a final boss was "too video gamey" and why a conventional ending was dismissed as cliche and unsophisticated.

The ending ruined the entire series for me.  Harbinger is not too video gamey.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

dasGleamer wrote...

8 months later and i still can't look at any of the games without a feeling of being let down.  destroyed a masterpiece with these shenanigans.

hope it feels good to sell out bioware...i can only hope future sales reflect the disrespect towards fans

It ruined my spring, and it ruined part of my summer. It is because I "first person" role play and become the character. 1200 hrs of Shepard. My canon play. My first play of the game. My truly honest no metagaming play. March 22 2010 @ 3:20 am. threw me into a deep 3 week depression that took months to recover from. I need to wait until an RPG is out a month and find out what kind of ending it has from here on. I don't want to go through this again.

[Jadebaby]

Yep. I still think about it everyday, and am still upset by it. Unlike Indoctrination. I'm aware of the effect this has had on me. On the contrary.. I can't shake it. Much like... You get the picture...

[Jadebaby]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

dasGleamer wrote...

8 months later and i still can't look at any of the games without a feeling of being let down.  destroyed a masterpiece with these shenanigans.

hope it feels good to sell out bioware...i can only hope future sales reflect the disrespect towards fans

It ruined my spring, and it ruined part of my summer. It is because I "first person" role play and become the character. 1200 hrs of Shepard. My canon play. My first play of the game. My truly honest no metagaming play. March 22 2010 @ 3:20 am. threw me into a deep 3 week depression that took months to recover from. I need to wait until an RPG is out a month and find out what kind of ending it has from here on. I don't want to go through this again.

2010? You didn't like ME2?

[dorktainian]

me2 rocks. me3 sucks. so often the case that the middle part of a trilogy is the best.

me3 answered the questions.....just from a completely different story that no-one had played through.

art eh? poor art is still poor.

[dasGleamer]

part of the problem were the huge expectations. the other problem, though was that ME1 and ME2 were, IMO, the best games ever made.

so the anticipation leading up to ME3 was even that much greater. as you're playing through ME3, you could overlook some of the flaws because of how epic the storyline was...

and then BAM!!! blindsided with the most ridiculous, poorly conceived ending to a video game that i've ever witnessed.

when you put it all together, it's unforgivable in the sense that you can't really ever trust bioware again. i'm still hoping that they actually fix the ending, but i know it's not coming. it's the only thing, though, that still lets me actually be able to look at the lithographs on my wall.

Modifié par dasGleamer, 20 novembre 2012 - 06:41 .

[Vic-TIM of Circumstance]

dasGleamer wrote...

part of the problem were the huge expectations. the other problem, though was that ME1 and ME2 were, IMO, the best games ever made.

so the anticipation leading up to ME3 was even that much greater. as you're playing through ME3, you could overlook some of the flaws because of how epic the storyline was...

and then BAM!!! blindsided with the most ridiculous, poorly conceived ending to a video game that i've ever witnessed.

when you put it all together, it's unforgivable in the sense that you can't really ever trust bioware again. i'm still hoping that they actually fix the ending, but i know it's not coming. it's the only thing, though, that still lets me actually be able to look at the lithographs on my wall.

I don't really think it was the expectations that caused my disappointment.  I actually bought it pessimistically, thinking it would collapse on itself due to its hype.  It turned out to be a great game and it seemed to communicate its feelings very well (enough to get me to tear up at least once haha).  

For me, it was the feeling that the end did not feel connected somehow.  Usually, in planned trilogies and even stand-alone novels, you can look back and reread and see exactly where the author connects plot points together to come to a climax.  With Mass Effect, the build up is there, but the climax is off.  The ideas communicated through the first and second game are sidelined and a new theme is only given development in the last few minutes of the game.  

It is true that the synthesis vs. organic theme has been there since the first game, but it was never the true focus.  There were no reminders or connections that it was the overarching theme and in the end it felt like it came out of nowhere.

The theme should be able to be inferred from the material even before the climax.  It should already be in your mind as you feel the build up and if it does not, then the material has failed to communicate whatever idea it intended to portray in the first place.  To my great disappointment, I feel as though Mass Effect 3 was guilty of this.

[thehomeworld]

Actually this parody is WORSE then the original endings:

[Nightwriter]

dorktainian wrote...

me2 rocks. me3 sucks. so often the case that the middle part of a trilogy is the best.

[Jadebaby]

thehomeworld wrote...

Actually this parody is WORSE then the original endings:

What are you talking about? It's practically the same ending...

[oblique9]

i know how you feel OP... I sort of hate myself for still being butthurt over a game.

but really... i wanted to badly for this to be a replayable escape from reality!

[BioticMarauder]

dasGleamer wrote...

8 months later and i still can't look at any of the games without a feeling of being let down.  destroyed a masterpiece with these shenanigans.

hope it feels good to sell out bioware...i can only hope future sales reflect the disrespect towards fans

Same here. I'm on my second playthrough starting ME1 and knowing that the ending's never going to change is extremely disappointing.
Wish I'd known this five years back 
Ah well back to multiplayer....

[LeVaughnX]

dorktainian wrote...

me2 rocks. me3 sucks. so often the case that the middle part of a trilogy is the best.

me3 answered the questions.....just from a completely different story that no-one had played through.

art eh? poor art is still poor.

Mass Effect 1 = 10/10

Mass Effect 2 = 9.5/10

Mass Effect 3 Pre Ending = 10/10

Mass Effect 3 Post Ending = 0/10

Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut = Developer Killer


What you said - sounded VERY uneducated, and I suggest you ban yourself.

[Add] Also - I can't even play Mass Effect 1 or 2 anymore now. I love ME1 and I played the **** out of it, same with ME2. But now...Unless they really get off their high horse and fix the ending by either making a DLC to fix it thats free and worth the free download time that I'm wasting on their **** - OR by making Mass Effect 4/5/6 all about Shepard again (Which to me would be 100% fine and worth it if they tried hard) I'm done. It makes me sick to know I spent years playing these games, reading the books, and actually "getting into" something. The only other game I got into this deeply was Chrono Trigger and that had a huge payoff at the end. Mass Effect rekindled my desire to read books then it **** all over me. I can't actually read the books now, I can't play the games, I can barely look at the cases. I feel stupid for feeling this way over a game, but honestly when something good - that you spend time and money on (years of your life) - goes to ****, you feel sick and betrayed.

Modifié par LeVaughnX, 20 novembre 2012 - 07:21 .

[ImperatorMortis]

dasGleamer wrote...

8 months later

Lol. 

Ya know.. I still don't fully understand it. Yeah the original endings were bad, but I really, really don't get how that could somehow "ruin" the rest of the game/the previous games. 

Whats even more hilarious is that that last 5 minutes apparently means that they can't make any more good games or whatever. Like Bioware was supposed to be this all perfect being, but the moment they made one mistake its this huge unforgivable thing. 

I just can't comprehend. 

Modifié par ImperatorMortis, 20 novembre 2012 - 07:22 .

[LeVaughnX]

ImperatorMortis wrote...

dasGleamer wrote...

8 months later

Lol. 

Ya know.. I still don't fully understand it. Yeah the original endings were bad, but I really, really don't get how that could somehow "ruin" the rest of the game/the previous games. 

It's mostly because you know the payoff is going to be terrible. Mass Effect 1 doesn't end at the end of the game, neither does Mass Effect 2. The books (4 doesn't count) don't count as stand alone books - they develop the universe of Mass Effect as a whole - giving you more insight to the series. To read and play something without being able to complete them, it's just pointless. I want to play Mass Effect 1 again and 2 and re-read the books then finish with 3 - but I can't do it. I know that the payoff in the end is not worth my time now. The ending of ME3 ruins every single build up to it only because it just doesn't fit. It doesn't fit, makes everything worthless, and isn't even Mass Effect - its more like the ending to a Halo game or some ****.

[KiwiQuiche]

I'm still amazed they managed to fcuk up so spectacularly. Didn't any think to say "Hey I don't get this?" Anyone? Fellow writers, even the damn test players.

Modifié par KiwiQuiche, 20 novembre 2012 - 07:32 .

[ImperatorMortis]

LeVaughnX wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

dasGleamer wrote...

8 months later

Lol. 

Ya know.. I still don't fully understand it. Yeah the original endings were bad, but I really, really don't get how that could somehow "ruin" the rest of the game/the previous games. 

It's mostly because you know the payoff is going to be terrible. Mass Effect 1 doesn't end at the end of the game, neither does Mass Effect 2. The books (4 doesn't count) don't count as stand alone books - they develop the universe of Mass Effect as a whole - giving you more insight to the series. To read and play something without being able to complete them, it's just pointless. I want to play Mass Effect 1 again and 2 and re-read the books then finish with 3 - but I can't do it. I know that the payoff in the end is not worth my time now. The ending of ME3 ruins every single build up to it only because it just doesn't fit. It doesn't fit, makes everything worthless, and isn't even Mass Effect - its more like the ending to a Halo game or some ****.

Its just an ending. And the extended cut endings make the payoff worth it. 

Relays get rebuilt, no ones stranded on an island, life in the galaxy goes on. You beat the reapers, you do what you originally set out to do. Sure its not super ideal, like you don't get to marry your LI, and there isn't a parade or anything. It just does what it has to. 

I can understand being upset for a few weeks or a month or two after you saw it. But eight months? 

Eight months?


Sweet Raptor Jesus.. 

KiwiQuiche wrote...

I'm still amazed they managed to fcuk up so spectacularly. It's oddly amazing.

Because people can't make mistakes right? 

Modifié par ImperatorMortis, 20 novembre 2012 - 07:33 .

[corporal doody]

PETTY PETTY PETTY BS OP/TC.

i bet the ewoks beating up those Stormtroopers in RotJ ruined all of Star Wars for you too?
hell...lets go little obnoxious kid and walking racist-stereotype in a terrible prequel messed up ALL of the SW universe for you....


maybe the last season of Star Trek Deep Space 9 ruined ALLLLLLLL of Star Trek for you? hmm?

Harry Potter,,,,them running around in a freaking murky forrest for half the movie in that second to last flick ruined the series??

Modifié par corporal doody, 20 novembre 2012 - 07:40 .

[DextroDNA]

Sick and tired of these threads.

It's been 8 months, Bioware knows you hated the endings - we don't need anymore of these pointless threads popping up.

Imo, the Extended Cut was pretty good and fixed things up for me. Like Corporal Doody said, you're all just being petty and awkward now. Go **** somewhere else.