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[Dr_Extrem]

Greylycantrope wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

As for EC - what worse than "evacuation scene"?
"evacuation scene" with EDI.
It is so unbelievably retarded, that it is actually hilarious.

come on .. joker needs his fembot - chakwas will have a hard time reducing his smashed pelvis though.

Is that really what you got out of Joker & Edi being together? Whew, charming. You could just stop them from getting together, you know?

well its hard to get used to .. but germans can have sense of humor too. well ..

where is leonard hofstadter and his "sarcasm sign", if you need him?

Hans Beinholtz anyone?

thats my grandfather!

[GreyLycanTrope]

Seriously? Your granddad rocks.

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 20 novembre 2012 - 10:42 .

[Dr_Extrem]

Greylycantrope wrote...

Seriously? You're granddad rocks.

yeah .. hes roling out of his retirement center too.

[DoktorAffentanz]

dorktainian wrote...

people getting all worked up about the ending when the battle was truly lost at the beginning of the game. Admiral Hackedoff threw in the towel...closely followed by The Council. Allers joined the ship, banged shep then was thown out of an airlock. We met Javik (who was always there but he would only come out of hiding if you stumped up bioware points) We met 3 enormous jellyfish after throwing bioware points at them, got weapon packs and armour packs. Liara became truly annoying. Ash had botox and ended up looking like she was sucking on a lemon. We met Vega. ME3s meathead. We saw the Normandy ruined and we met steeeeeve and Trayor. We found the war room to be utterly pointless. We got harassed by some barrier as we travelled through the ship just to save additional load screens. Joker Puled a glorified toaster. Tali took a polaroid. Shep dreamt of dead people. Shep got to do more banging. We discovered london is really a sh...hole. We tried to become usain bolt while running at the beam. We failed. We discovered that the Normandy can travel faster than light through an atmosphere and pick up wounded collegues while sticking its tongue out at harbinger. We discover harbinger wants us to serve him a gyn & Tonic. We discovered TIM was biotic. We discovered anderson could move at bionic man speed. we discovered shepard has a reboot switch in his head to wake him up if he nods off. We then dicovered that actually everything is pointless as we are presented 3 choices by a childs ghost while also learninig we can breath in the vacumm of space. We discovered that we could merge with household appliances. We discovered that by being electrocuted and vaporised we could control the reapers. We discovered the citadel was actually a huge blossum.

My guess is we were all dead. we were always dead. pergatory for everyone...with sprinkles.

Unless we destroyed the reapers.....

Well, that was... enlightening.

[HTTP 404]

dasGleamer wrote...

8 months later and i still can't look at any of the games without a feeling of being let down.  destroyed a masterpiece with these shenanigans.

hope it feels good to sell out bioware...i can only hope future sales reflect the disrespect towards fans

try and read a book, or find a new television show to watch.  To still contemplate 8 months later about a video game ending is well, wasted energy.

[Maxster_]

Persephone wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

As for EC - what worse than "evacuation scene"?
"evacuation scene" with EDI.
It is so unbelievably retarded, that it is actually hilarious.

I liked that scene.

What's so bad about it? That bloody dull Harbinger doesn't shoot the Normandy down? Yeah, that would bode well for the bargaining with Shepard afterwards. Like the Catalyst or not, it's controlling the Reapers and shooting down the ship of someone he wishes to bargain with later.....now THAT would be dumb.

Please.
scene

Shepard - Here. Take her...

EDI - Shepard...

S - You gotta get out of here.

E - This platform is disposable.

S - Don't argue EDI.

E - The backup systems.. I can initiate repairs.

S - The body is nonfunctional EDI. Get out of here before you are too.

E - The Normandy survival is not strategic.

S - That's an order, EDI. A moral one.

So, to save 2 expendable squadmates, one of which is EDI(mobile platform), Shepard ordered Normandy(which is actually EDI) to endanger itself and over 100 crew, to save mobile platform.
And that's an order. A moral one.


Not to mention that entire beam run(and priority:earth is completely unneeded) is retarded scene, but that was before the EC. EC only made it worse.

[dasGleamer]

HTTP 404 wrote...

dasGleamer wrote...

8 months later and i still can't look at any of the games without a feeling of being let down.  destroyed a masterpiece with these shenanigans.

hope it feels good to sell out bioware...i can only hope future sales reflect the disrespect towards fans

try and read a book, or find a new television show to watch.  To still contemplate 8 months later about a video game ending is well, wasted energy.

i have plenty of things to do.

i'm just very frustrated that they essentially killed Mass Effect.  i used to spend hours replaying the games because i enjoyed it so much.  i can't even load the discs anymore because of how depressing the endings are.

i'm not even mad about the wasted time/money.  i'm mad that they won't fix the mistakes and restore Mass Effect to the throne of the greatest game ever.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Persephone wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Did you get hit with the original endings? What has been seen cannot be unseen. March 22, 2012. Even with the EC, one sees through the additional dialogue and sees through the slide shows and sees the original ending. It has not changed one bit. The only way to fix it is to eliminate glowboy completely.

Yes. Didn't like them.

Whatever works for you.

No.

I should have added "for me" after the last statement. 

I guess like it comes down to personal taste and how one plays the games. I'm not young anymore and when you reach a certain age friends start dying in real life. We continue on. It is just the way life is.

When I play RPGs I play in "first person" where if the story is compelling I get into the character and become the character. Perhaps this is unhealthy for me to do, but it happens because I'm an emotional person. I played way way too many hours of ME1 & 2. I was perfectly accepting of "this was Shepard's last story." All I wanted was the chance that if I did things right for me to see my friends and loved ones again, then put the game on the shelf or if I wanted, play the other 9 characters through. I think this is what a great majority of people were hoping for.
 
Instead I end up under a pile of rubble and I get this gasp of air, and that's the end. That just did not do it for me.

Some people play in "third person" or more detached.

Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 20 novembre 2012 - 10:48 .

[GreyLycanTrope]

I play in third person I still find what happens appalling.

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 20 novembre 2012 - 11:45 .

[Jagri]

Hmm at this point I don't think it is contemplation merely a reflection of disappointment. When I am reminded of the Mass Effect series I kinda just shrug it off now. It is at this point not worthy of mention like the original Fallout, Baldur's gate, and KOTOR I&II.

But thats just my view of things. Hopefully the results and ideas generated within the series are better applied in the future.

Modifié par Jagri, 20 novembre 2012 - 11:33 .

[MerinTB]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

The plotholes were just part of the problem. For me the EC didn't end the feeling that it was written by writers who forgot to read the script of anything before it and forgot what ME was about. Time heals all wounds. However ME3's ending does not heal by itself. A bad ending stays bad. No matter how long ago you've played it.

The plot holes were a minute part of the problem.

The lack of closure with what happened, a decent denounment, that was addressed (arguably) by the EC DLC was also a minute part of the problem.

The ending being 'depressing' (depending on your take of it, and which ending you got) is absolutely not the problem.

The ending of the series (especially the beam up to the Citadel forward) feeling like it was written by David Lynch or M. Night Shyamalan while the entirety of the series up to the ending feeling like it was written by J. Michael Straczynski or Gene Roddenberry is pretty much the crux of the problem for me.

And no amount of time can fix that.

[Kabooooom]

Not a problem for me, because my canon ending just has Shep getting blown to smithereens before the beam. Boom. Failure. Everyone dies. Sad day for the galaxy. I still enjoy ME1, ME2, and ME3. I just cut out all the crap that was piled on in the last ten minutes, lol.

[Alien Number Six]

Please get over it for your own sake. It isn't healthy and if you can't look at your games anymore turn them in for store credit.

[Lazengan]

Game was a disaster from the beginning, with the exception oft a few sequences like Rannoch and the Genophage cure, the entire game was a horrible mess.

Choices completely gone, neutral option gone, and you basically say the same thing in a nice or idgaf tone

Stupid plot from a B-movie about the "horrors of war" - what a joke

Stupid oversexualization of Ashley and EDI. Well I found it quite amusing, but still annoying nevertheless

 Hilarious attempts at post-traumatic stress with the stupid dream sequences - this is actually the pathetic kind of garbage that call of duty would pull off, and it is extremely insulting to my intelligence.

TIM - Characterization completely ruined from ME2

Kai Leng - Stupid metagaming Villain that made no sense and had 0 characterization

Side missions - a chore from Admiral Hackett, no more exploration allowed

Leviathan DLC - make more money as Bioware whacks off to their views of "artistic integrity"

The most boring and unoriginal concept for the Reapers which were actually scary in ME1. Bioware you were better off not explaining their motives, they didn't need a purpose, we feared them because they were incomprehensible and they should have stayed that way.

The only redeeming features of ME3 are: the voice acting, The multiplayer (which is quite good as a video game as they are being developped by another team), and Marauder Shields

Modifié par Lazengan, 21 novembre 2012 - 01:03 .

[AlanC9]

Persephone wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

As for EC - what worse than "evacuation scene"?
"evacuation scene" with EDI.
It is so unbelievably retarded, that it is actually hilarious.

I liked that scene.

What's so bad about it? That bloody dull Harbinger doesn't shoot the Normandy down? 

The problem is that EDI's "platform" is dispensable, and she not only knows it but tells Shepard so.

And she's right. Get her body blown up in a low-EMS Control run and she's still alive.

The weird thing is that it would have been simple to just make the other squadmate get injured if EDI's along.

Modifié par AlanC9, 21 novembre 2012 - 01:05 .

[Bill Casey]

Persephone wrote...

Speak for yourself. My "morals" were just fine after each EC ending I picked. Shocking, I know!

You monster...

[JBPBRC]

Lazengan wrote...

 Hilarious attempts at post-traumatic stress with the stupid dream sequences - this is actually the pathetic kind of garbage that call of duty would pull off, and it is extremely insulting to my intelligence.

I saw this as an attempt to copy the flashbacks occasionally seen in Gears of War 3. Except not as good.

The only redeeming features of ME3 are: the voice acting, The multiplayer (which is quite good as a video game as they are being developped by another team), and Marauder Shields

Don't forget Cains. The ultimate anti-Reaper handheld weapon.

[Red Panda]

Bill Casey wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Speak for yourself. My "morals" were just fine after each EC ending I picked. Shocking, I know!

You monster...

Synthesis is inevitable. It cannot be stopped, as it is the final eventuality.

[Estelindis]

I still feel disappointed by the ending too. It's one thing to not meet expectations perfectly (since expectations are often so high that it's impossible to fulfil them completely), but to thwart them so spectacularly and leave so many bad tastes in one's mouth is something else. I've had many beloved series end in damp squibs; while it was disappointing at the time, I got over it. But there's something about the Mass Effect ending(s) that just keeps redisappointing me, like I discover ever-newer layers of wrongness whenever I go back to thinking about it.

[Nightwriter]

Shatterhand1701 wrote...

iakus wrote...

Shatterhand1701 wrote...

Oh, for the love of all that's holy...

Please do tell us all for the billionteenth time how much you all hate the endings.

Look, I get it, you know? I was just as let down by the endings as everyone else when they were first seen. However, I'm one of the happy few who finished the Extended Cut and felt satisfied by what Bioware did to try and alleviate some of the worst issues. The fact that they even made the effort to address fans concerns AT ALL impressed me, especially since they could've easily said the more eloquent version of, "F*ck all y'all, it is what it is, so get over it". Was it the best solution? Maybe not, but it was an effort they weren't under any obligation to make, despite what any of you may say or believe. They weren't obligated to do ANYTHING for us in regards to those endings. You need to understand that. You can talk all you want about promises and storylines and even claims of false advertising, and every other justification that satisfies your personal opinions all you want, but in the end, they would've been perfectly within their rights to do nothing at all.

You don't have to kiss their asses for what Bioware did via the Extended Cut, and that's not really what I'm doing, though it may seem otherwise. Obviously the embittered masses aren't going to lower their fists of rage about this, and realistically, they don't have to. But what they really need to do, for their own senses of well-being, is come to terms with the fact that as much as they continue to complain, they're not going to see anything more done to assuage them. Bioware did all they intended to do to satisfy fan reactions. Whether all of you think it was enough or not is irrelevant at this point; Bioware's moving on, and sad to say, you really need to as well.

If you choose not to, you've got no one to blame for the salt and lemon juice being sprinkled on the open wounds but yourselves.

"I'm happy so STFU"

If that's truly what you got from what I wrote, then at the very least I know you didn't really read what I said and just gleaned that I don't agree with you.  Suit yourself, if you wish to believe that's all I said.

And hey, you've got every right to be unhappy.  I'm in no way telling you not to be.  I'm just recommending to those who continue to have this expectation of "If I keep complaining long enough and often enough, maybe Bioware will somehow come to their senses and give me what I want" to brace themselves for a long, long period of continued disappointment.  It all seems borderline masochistic but If that's your kink, have at it.

I read what you wrote, and his analysis seems applicable.

Also, you're kind of making a blanket assumption about the motivation behind ending criticism. Don't know why you'd think I complain about the endings because I'm trying to change BioWare's mind. That ain't happenin'.

Modifié par Nightwriter, 21 novembre 2012 - 01:47 .

[Masha Potato]

There was a lot of other stuff that made me indifferent to Mass Effect, like the moment when Shepard dies in the beginning of ME2. It all piled up until everything i could experience was a giant amorphous "whatever"

Ending wasn't even the worst of it

[amblin_xi]

Sigh...here I am back from a 7months break so my memories can fade and I just topped up my account, downloaded the DLCs and ready for my second playthrough....

You guys just made me realized how bad the ending was / is going to be again!!!!

I HATE YOU!! May the space kid take you!

[chemiclord]

At this point, I'm of the mind that whatever helps people come to terms with the end of the trilogy and lets them move on, go for it. More power to ya.

IT? Cool. Completely retconning everything with a mod or headcanon? Go wild, pal. Burning your CDs in a cathartic rage? Sure!

Anything that lets them move on and not let the endings tear at them and inflict emotional harm eight months later is something to be embraced.

[GreyLycanTrope]

OperatingWookie wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Speak for yourself. My "morals" were just fine after each EC ending I picked. Shocking, I know!

You monster...

Synthesis is inevitable. It cannot be stopped, as it is the final eventuality.

Oh no, Sevial got to him... IT'S SPREADING, FLEE FOR YOUR LIVES !

[babachewie]

Therapy. Get some help.