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[LeVaughnX]

ImperatorMortis wrote...

LeVaughnX wrote...


Buddy - if you don't like hearing the true fans, the intelligent human beings who feel cheated and ****ed out of 5 years of their lives complain about something thats logical to complain about - then just don't read / respond. You obviously weren't here from the start of things, you probably didn't actually "get into the series" - so just stop. There is a reason that many people are complaining and will not stop complaining. Its because we feel "cheated". Anytime you invest your time and money into something that brings you joy - then to be led on by said object/thing and having your expectations raised through the roof - only to be **** on in the end, its bad. It's like if someone bought a new Mario game except the finale had guns in it - that's bad game design and it would make a lot of people go "What the ****?" especially if the developers said ""thats the last time you'll see Mario - he got gunned down by gang bangers, thats the end - goodbye!"". THEN imagine they released a new ending to this Mario game and it features Luigi shooting Mario down after Mario gets a 1up or something - it would just feel like a **** stain on your soul.

Now I know you probably don't know what Mario is - so I'll relate it to something you might understand. It's like farting and expecting a train of turds to plop out of your ass. You spend an hour on the toilet, reading and writing, until you feel the last gas pocket erupt in your intestines. Without warning BOOM its just an explosive release of gas - no turds. - That's something I'm sure you can understand with your mind.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! 

Just.. Where does this arrogance come from? Oh man. I honestly felt sorry for you before, but now.. Lol.

You really need to take a break.

Have a good night. I mean that. 

You know what makes me smile, you're trolling and its an obvious thing. You're like most religious folk - instead of backing up your side of an argument you decide to just try and put down someone whose making rather legitimate claims/remarks or just pushing a certain direction.

So go ahead - shut down - keep typing""LULULSDUFSJDFKJ HAVE A GOOD NIGHT TAKE A BREAK"" - still aren't justifying your reasoning to why you keep reading all this **** if you don't like it / don't want to hear or see it / disagree with it.

Come up with a counter debate - quit backing into your corner.

[ImperatorMortis]

Nightwriter wrote...

I haven't seen any fan reaction of this size that petered out neatly and tidily within a few months.

And no, the point hasn't been satisfactorily "made." BioWare still ignores most of the arguments, and there are still tons of fans on here defending the endings. 

Probably cause they've heard it about a million times by now? 

Nightwriter wrote...
That's kind of all you need for the complaints to continue: opposition. Ensures the fire is regularly fed, stirred, and stoked. Ignoring that the latter means both the former, anyway.

Thats a good point. I guess in the end people just wanna be "right". But its hard to be right about something thats completely subjective. So.. Lets argue about this til the end of time? 

LeVaughnX wrote...

You know what makes me smile, you're trolling and its an obvious thing. You're like most religious folk - instead of backing up your side of an argument you decide to just try and put down someone whose making rather legitimate claims/remarks or just pushing a certain direction. 

So go ahead - shut down - keep typing""LULULSDUFSJDFKJ HAVE A GOOD NIGHT TAKE A BREAK"" - still aren't justifying your reasoning to why you keep reading all this **** if you don't like it / don't want to hear or see it / disagree with it.

Come up with a counter debate - quit backing into your corner.

Debate? 

I never said you were wrong to dislike the endings. I was simply curious why it bothered you to such an extent, and for so long. Just wanted to know what made you tick. 

Don't know why you're so unnerved by this. Did you seriously expect everyone to agree with you?

You're a pretty funny guy. 

Modifié par ImperatorMortis, 20 novembre 2012 - 08:19 .

[Vic-TIM of Circumstance]

KiwiQuiche wrote...

Vic-TIM of Circumstance wrote...

Dude, calm down. The endings were a huge let down, but they're not worth getting that mad on the internet over.

That's kinda of an oxymoron.

Not really.  I was incredibly disappointed by the endings myself.  It pretty much killed my interest in the series until very recently.  Its just that even though I think the endings are awful, I don't think there's much of a point getting mad at someone I don't even know who doesn't really influence Mass Effect or its endings.

[LeVaughnX]

Nightwriter wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

I can understand. But for this long? To the point where people still insist on yelling about it? 

Isn't a bit.. Excessive at this point? I mean their point has long since been made. 

I haven't seen any fan reaction of this size that petered out neatly and tidily within a few months.

And no, the point hasn't been satisfactorily "made." BioWare still ignores most of the arguments, and there are still tons of fans on here defending the endings. That's kind of all you need for the complaints to continue: opposition. Ensures the fire is regularly fed, stirred, and stoked. Ignoring that the latter means both the former, anyway.

A single person's anger at the endings might die out in a few months... if they stayed away from the BSN and put themselves on Mass Effect quarantine. Stick around here, however, and, well... fire. Fed. Regularly.

Honestly I haven't been on the forums but just recently. Came on here to see the **** reactions to everything thats been going on. Since the ****s are still bashing what few "honest" players/fans are here - I thought I'd step up and post a few rants on the forum to show what I feel. Full of strong emotion sure - but is it an overwhelming thing for me? Naa its like the whole ""OMG ITS HAPPENING"" bull**** - it'll pass like a spring breeze.

[LeVaughnX]

Did they really censor out the word "Bio-Drone"? Maybe if I type it like this..

**** / Bio Drone / Drone of the Bio?

[ImperatorMortis]

I like how this thread suddenly kicked off.

[Nightwriter]

ImperatorMortis wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

I haven't seen any fan reaction of this size that petered out neatly and tidily within a few months.

And no, the point hasn't been satisfactorily "made." BioWare still ignores most of the arguments, and there are still tons of fans on here defending the endings. 

Probably cause they've heard it about a million times by now?

You're saying they do not respond because they've heard it a million times?

Well, I would say they're not responding because it's not their policy and they're gun shy about making official statements, but okay.

ImperatorMortis wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...
That's kind of all you need for the complaints to continue: opposition. Ensures the fire is regularly fed, stirred, and stoked. Ignoring that the latter means both the former, anyway.

Thats a good point. I guess in the end people just wanna be "right". But its hard to be right about something thats completely subjective. So.. Lets argue about this til the end of time? 

Yep.

[GazzaS80]

Meh, I enjoyed the ending, and the series as a whole, even before the extended cut. Each to his own I suppose.

[Binary_Helix 1]

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Ah, "not raging on the internet".

We have dismissed that claim.

EVERYTHING SUCKS FUUUUUUU RABBLE RABBLE

Save the snark. People only use blogs, forums, comment sections, etc because they either love something or hate it.

You were a better user before every other post of yours became a circle jerk with your pals so don't mock anyone plz.

[Nightwriter]

LeVaughnX wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

I can understand. But for this long? To the point where people still insist on yelling about it? 

Isn't a bit.. Excessive at this point? I mean their point has long since been made. 

I haven't seen any fan reaction of this size that petered out neatly and tidily within a few months.

And no, the point hasn't been satisfactorily "made." BioWare still ignores most of the arguments, and there are still tons of fans on here defending the endings. That's kind of all you need for the complaints to continue: opposition. Ensures the fire is regularly fed, stirred, and stoked. Ignoring that the latter means both the former, anyway.

A single person's anger at the endings might die out in a few months... if they stayed away from the BSN and put themselves on Mass Effect quarantine. Stick around here, however, and, well... fire. Fed. Regularly.

Honestly I haven't been on the forums but just recently. Came on here to see the **** reactions to everything thats been going on. Since the ****s are still bashing what few "honest" players/fans are here - I thought I'd step up and post a few rants on the forum to show what I feel. Full of strong emotion sure - but is it an overwhelming thing for me? Naa its like the whole ""OMG ITS HAPPENING"" bull**** - it'll pass like a spring breeze.

LeVaughn, I also lift my pinkie when I'm drinking coffee. I can't help it, it just goes up on its own and I'm constantly persecuted for it.

What I'm trying to say is I understand your soul pain and this is a circle of trust.

[Liamv2]

Sigh i was going to get involved but i can't be bothered

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

The ending of ME3 did not kill the franchise, it merely finished what the ME2 intro began.

[Neizd]

Ture...I still can remember one day before downloading the game..you know all of those promises like:
- Tali face
- "Some squadmates are permament and some are temporary" - Then we got ME2 squadmates totally ignored...
- No A, B, C ending... really I was expecting to get the ending that would be a reward for my choices from all of three games...instead I got the same nonsenstical kick in the balls that everyone else got. What was the point of those choices if my gameplay ended THE SAME as everyone else's? At least the epiloque should be different but NO, we only got normal epiloque with extended cut and it still doesn't answer my questions to what happened to my squadmates :/

[ImperatorMortis]

Neizd wrote...

Ture...I still can remember one day before downloading the game..you know all of those promises like:
- Tali face

Haha. Oh man, Tali face. I completely forgot about that debacle. I mean.. Man. Did they really think they were gonna get away with that? 

[Eterna]

It didn't destroy the series for a lot of people.

[bigbade]

yeah shi t was bad. leviathan made it worse (youtubed it!) and omega is going to probably be a pretty decent-good piece of ME story that should have been in the base game and will do absolutely nothing to make up for what the endings/extended cut/leviathans ruined.

[ImperatorMortis]

bigbade wrote...

yeah shi t was bad. leviathan made it worse (youtubed it!) and omega is going to probably be a pretty decent-good piece of ME story that should have been in the base game and will do absolutely nothing to make up for what the endings/extended cut/leviathans ruined.

I actually liked Leviathan(youtubed it).

Cthulu cuttlefish. 

[ZeCollectorDestroya]

Oh, you're butthurt?

[Zaalbar]

Well Casey wanted an ending that no one would forget and here we are 8 months later with another ending sucks thread.

Congrats to Bioware.
No one is gonna be forgetting how bad these endings suck for a very long time to come it seems.
Kind of sad really when you think this is quite possibly the only thing Mass Effect 3 will be remembered for in the long term.

[LeVaughnX]

ImperatorMortis wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

I haven't seen any fan reaction of this size that petered out neatly and tidily within a few months.

And no, the point hasn't been satisfactorily "made." BioWare still ignores most of the arguments, and there are still tons of fans on here defending the endings. 

Probably cause they've heard it about a million times by now? 

Nightwriter wrote...
That's kind of all you need for the complaints to continue: opposition. Ensures the fire is regularly fed, stirred, and stoked. Ignoring that the latter means both the former, anyway.

Thats a good point. I guess in the end people just wanna be "right". But its hard to be right about something thats completely subjective. So.. Lets argue about this til the end of time? 

LeVaughnX wrote...

You know what makes me smile, you're trolling and its an obvious thing. You're like most religious folk - instead of backing up your side of an argument you decide to just try and put down someone whose making rather legitimate claims/remarks or just pushing a certain direction. 

So go ahead - shut down - keep typing""LULULSDUFSJDFKJ HAVE A GOOD NIGHT TAKE A BREAK"" - still aren't justifying your reasoning to why you keep reading all this **** if you don't like it / don't want to hear or see it / disagree with it.

Come up with a counter debate - quit backing into your corner.

Debate? 

I never said you were wrong to dislike the endings. I was simply curious why it bothered you to such an extent, and for so long. Just wanted to know what made you tick. 

Don't know why you're so unnerved by this. Did you seriously expect everyone to agree with you?

You're a pretty funny guy. 

To be honest ****wit, I don't care who agrees with me and who doesn't. Five hundred thousand people can agree with one person and believe one singular thing - won't make them any more justified or correct than the one person who knows different. The ending of Shepard's story / Mass Effect 3 is ****ed. It ruined EAwares reputation in the eyes of the true fans, it took a **** on the series as a whole, and left the fans feeling like a bastard child. Picture this - your spouse comes out and says (on your wedding night) ""I ****ed five people at the party before getting married just to let it out"". That ruins your whole ****ing memory of the relationship up to that point and everything beyond it.

Sure - this game isn't as important by far but the analogy stands. And technically by posting in the way you have you are indirectly acting snotty and ****-high worthy about the people who dislike the endings while you seem to kind of stand for them.

[daecath]

ImperatorMortis wrote...
Thats a good point. I guess in the end people just wanna be "right". But its hard to be right about something thats completely subjective. So.. Lets argue about this til the end of time? 

Well said. That's probably the biggest problem in the world today. Everyone believes they are absolutely right, and that everyone that disagrees is therefore either evil or stupid.

However, there are some things about the ending issue that aren't "completely" subjective.
Introduce brand new character at the very end
Gave new character god-like powers to magically end the conflict with a push of a button
Introduced new theme at the very end
Introduce new unprecedented technology at the very end

All of those things are factual, provable statements. It's one thing to say that you like the ending. I can respect that. The EC had some well written and poignant emotionally impactful elements. But it's another to claim that the ending is fine. The ending is not fine. An ending should follow from the rest of the story. This ending does not. All of those new introductions break the flow of the story because they come from nowhere and don't fit. Now, you may be fine with that. You may even like that. Others don't. Both opinions are valid, but from a mechanical standpoint, the ending is broken.

ImperatorMortis wrote...
I never said you were wrong to dislike the endings. I was simply curious why it bothered you to such an extent, and for so long. Just wanted to know what made you tick. 

Can't speak for everyone, but for me, I don't play a lot of games. The ones I do play are ones where I can lose myself in the story, especially if I can inhabit the main character. The ME series was the perfect game for me. I invested in the story and the character, especially on an emotional level. Then came ME3. There were aspects of it that showed what the game could have been. Which makes what we actually got overall even worse, especially the ending. If it were simply incompetance, I could deal with it. If I thought that BioWare just suddenly completely sucked, I'd just walk away. But all the great elements of the game show that they don't. Which leads me to one conclusion.

The game, and the ending specifically, was rushed. Look at the game we got compared to the pre-release interviews. There's no way that's the game they wanted to make. Look at the dev cycles of the series. ME1 took 3 years to publish on 1 console. ME2 took 2 years to publish on 2 consoles, as well as publishing ME1 on a second, 2 DLC's for ME1, and one for ME2. ME3 took 2 years to publish on 3 consoles, as well as publishing ME2 on a third, 4 DLC's for ME2, and one for ME3, plus a multiplayer component. In other words, it was much more work with the same amount of time. It was rushed. And the reason it was rushed is EA got greedy. I'm disappointed in the ending and the game itself. I'm F***ING FURIOUS at EA for their blatent greed and incompetance, and I hope John Riccitiello and his cronies at EA end up getting fired and slinging fries at their local Mickey-D's. That's why I don't let it go. 

[ElSuperGecko]

This one humbly disagrees with the topic creator's expressed opinion. This one finds the ending to Mass Effect 3 a fitting and effective finale to an outstanding series.

[Kildin_of_the_Volus]

Well said Deacath.

[GimmeDaGun]

*yawn*...walks away...

[AlanC9]

ImperatorMortis wrote...
Thats a good point. I guess in the end people just wanna be "right". But its hard to be right about something thats completely subjective. So.. Lets argue about this til the end of time? 

Why not? That's what boards like this are for.