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[Robhuzz]

It is irrelevant, how much "effort" they put in EC, if they failed. And they failed, and actually there was no effort in EC.
Garbage like "evacuation scene" just made everything ever more idiotic.
EC fixes completely nothing, just adds more nonsense, to already nonsensical fairytale.

So no, they failed, with DA2, SWTOR and ME3 - and they fully deserve what they getting as the result.

Thank you! I've been trying to make this point for a while now. From the EC it becomes clear that bioware didn't think the ending through at all in the first place. The holes that are left in the story after the original nonsense ending are filled up with nothing but more nonsense. Some of it (lol at evacuation scene) just adds a few more plot holes even. Definitive proof that bioware had no idea how to finish up the story in the first place and it was as much a result of incompetent writers as lack of time.

How is the EC an improvement I wonder? I will never understand....

[KingZayd]

CDR David Shepard wrote...

Finn the Jakey wrote...

The majority of people on this site are unhappy with the ending, if you can't handle that then go to some other site.

Haha...I always thought it should be the other way around...but your point is valid.

However...I think it's more about the fact that countless threads of this same topic have been made for the past 8 months. There is no more information needed to be given on why the ending is not liked by people.

Pick one of the countless threads made on the topic and read through it.

Read the OP...this thread was made for hate on the endings and hate on bioware. There was nothing new or relevant in the OP...except more hate 8 months later....

dasGleamer wrote...

8 months later and i still can't look at any of the games without a feeling of being let down.  destroyed a masterpiece with these shenanigans.

hope it feels good to sell out bioware...i can only hope future sales reflect the disrespect towards fans

Think of it as the extended cut of hate on the endings.

Modifié par KingZayd, 20 novembre 2012 - 06:45 .

[MattFini]

Playing through ME3 for a third time right now, so I can get fully into Omega next week.

While there's a lot about ME3 I don't like before the ending, I can honestly overlook it: the flat opening, the nonsensical Cerberus coup, severe lack of Jack and Miranda, etc...

The overall game is still fun, combat is smooth and some of the character moments are absolutely stellar.

But that ending ... it just hangs over the whole experience. And not just the fact that the Catalyst is silly and poorly written, but that the entire Priority: Earth mission is terrible. Couple that with the passive and anticlimactic way in which Shepard achieves "victory", and you've got an ending that just fails on every possible level.

But ... it's a testament to how good the series is. Because I still love Mass Effect on the whole, and hope this is just a setback.

[Lizzarder]

RussianZombeh wrote...

Sick and tired of these threads.

It's been 8 months, Bioware knows you hated the endings - we don't need anymore of these pointless threads popping up.

Imo, the Extended Cut was pretty good and fixed things up for me. Like Corporal Doody said, you're all just being petty and awkward now. Go **** somewhere else.

This!

[Reever]

Even after playing DA:O (which is a great game, well done BW!!) I still like love this game! Can´t wait for the DLC.

And please just stop creating these threads...

[HiddenInWar]

Lizzarder wrote...

RussianZombeh wrote...

Sick and tired of these threads.

It's been 8 months, Bioware knows you hated the endings - we don't need anymore of these pointless threads popping up.

Imo, the Extended Cut was pretty good and fixed things up for me. Like Corporal Doody said, you're all just being petty and awkward now. Go **** somewhere else.

This!

[Dr_Extrem]

MattFini wrote...

Playing through ME3 for a third time right now, so I can get fully into Omega next week.

While there's a lot about ME3 I don't like before the ending, I can honestly overlook it: the flat opening, the nonsensical Cerberus coup, severe lack of Jack and Miranda, etc...

The overall game is still fun, combat is smooth and some of the character moments are absolutely stellar.

But that ending ... it just hangs over the whole experience. And not just the fact that the Catalyst is silly and poorly written, but that the entire Priority: Earth mission is terrible. Couple that with the passive and anticlimactic way in which Shepard achieves "victory", and you've got an ending that just fails on every possible level.

But ... it's a testament to how good the series is. Because I still love Mass Effect on the whole, and hope this is just a setback.

hope ... you have it.

i agree with your statements. 

higher difficulties, should come with some kind of resistences to powers though. i normally play on hardcore - my personal smooth speed thoughout me1 and 2. in me3, hardcore is just ae-mezz and bomb.


the endings are equally disgusting and my paragon shepards could not choose any of the endings.

he/she would not put herself on top of all (he/she is not a hegemon - he/she is "pro self responsibility")
he/she would not sacrifice the geth (ashs conversation in me1 about council races, dogs and bears)
he/she would not amalgamate all life and uplift society (she knows what happened to the krogan - cultural shock)
he/she would not stand aside and do nothing at all

[Yate]

Dr_Extrem wrote...

MattFini wrote...

Playing through ME3 for a third time right now, so I can get fully into Omega next week.

While there's a lot about ME3 I don't like before the ending, I can honestly overlook it: the flat opening, the nonsensical Cerberus coup, severe lack of Jack and Miranda, etc...

The overall game is still fun, combat is smooth and some of the character moments are absolutely stellar.

But that ending ... it just hangs over the whole experience. And not just the fact that the Catalyst is silly and poorly written, but that the entire Priority: Earth mission is terrible. Couple that with the passive and anticlimactic way in which Shepard achieves "victory", and you've got an ending that just fails on every possible level.

But ... it's a testament to how good the series is. Because I still love Mass Effect on the whole, and hope this is just a setback.

hope ... you have it.

i agree with your statements. 

higher difficulties, should come with some kind of resistences to powers though. i normally play on hardcore - my personal smooth speed thoughout me1 and 2. in me3, hardcore is just ae-mezz and bomb.


the endings are equally disgusting and my paragon shepards could not choose any of the endings.

he/she would not put herself on top of all (he/she is not a hegemon - he/she is "pro self responsibility")
he/she would not sacrifice the geth (ashs conversation in me1 about council races, dogs and bears)
he/she would not amalgamate all life and uplift society (she knows what happened to the krogan - cultural shock)
he/she would not stand aside and do nothing at all

If you think Shepard would not sacrifice the geth to stop the Reapers, congratulations, you missed the entire point of the series.

You want a perfect happy ending where everyone lives. I say that is stupid. Go play Animal Crossing.

[Maxster_]

Robhuzz wrote...

It is irrelevant, how much "effort" they put in EC, if they failed. And they failed, and actually there was no effort in EC.
Garbage like "evacuation scene" just made everything ever more idiotic.
EC fixes completely nothing, just adds more nonsense, to already nonsensical fairytale.

So no, they failed, with DA2, SWTOR and ME3 - and they fully deserve what they getting as the result.

Thank you! I've been trying to make this point for a while now. From the EC it becomes clear that bioware didn't think the ending through at all in the first place. The holes that are left in the story after the original nonsense ending are filled up with nothing but more nonsense. Some of it (lol at evacuation scene) just adds a few more plot holes even. Definitive proof that bioware had no idea how to finish up the story in the first place and it was as much a result of incompetent writers as lack of time.

How is the EC an improvement I wonder? I will never understand....

ME3 story is completely broken from the start of the development process.
It completely nullifies it's prequels.
So, reapers just sit in dark space, for thousand of years of Sovereign machinations, - when they could just flew into a galaxy in 0.5-3 years, losing completely nothing in the process? What was the point of Mass Effect 1?? What was the point of Mass Effect 2?
Why such retarded creatures even came up with such a sophisticated plan like Citadel trap? Why they even need it at all, if they could just fly into a galaxy, losing nothing, and then just stomp everyone without losses?

And for "plot" of ME3 - to shoehorn Catalyst's nonsense, which existence utterly destroys everything that left of overarching series plot after first point(about reapers sitting in dark space for lulz) - they needed some unknown device with unknown function.
So, someone designed a device with unknown function, which should interface with another unknown device, with unknown interface, unknown function, unknown location, and unconfirmed existence, and even need of it.
Really?
Crucible is absurd and nonsense, which completely destroys ME3 "plot".
So we have destroyed overarching plot, and destroyed ME3 plot.
And then there is Cerberus Empire, which contradicts common sense.

Of course, EC couldn't have fixed that, but it is still utter crap and failure. You do not fix a plothole(teleporting crew) with even bigger plothole(teleporting Normandy).
.
So, if you are saying, that ME3 story problems lies only in endings, you are very wrong, comrade.

Modifié par Maxster_, 20 novembre 2012 - 07:18 .

[Maxster_]

BlueDemonX wrote...

Even after playing DA:O (which is a great game, well done BW!!) I still like love this game! Can´t wait for the DLC.

And please just stop creating these threads...

Request... denied

[LeVaughnX]

CDR David Shepard wrote...

In my honest opinion...I feel that if the ending ruins the entire series for you...then you weren't that much of a fan of the Mass Effect series and universe to begin with.

Saw your post, had to pick you out of the bunch David - sorry. A true fan knows when to speak up and lash out at the thing he or she is a fan of. I don't fear the backlash because the developers NEED to understand the **** up they just made. I spent years playing this series, getting into its story, enjoying it, and calling it probably the second best game / franchise ever created - and standing up for it whenever a critic bashed it (with logical debates). But when the producers/developers spit in your face not once, not twice, but three whole times THEN expect us to like it and lick it up - I come out and go ""Yeah okay how about no"". I'm a true fan because I have always existed as a lover of a good story, I still love Mass Effect BUT I will not just sit there while a company ****s itself out and becomes a corporation that doesn't give a **** about its fans. Sure - maybe you think you're a fan - but a real fan would have no problem standing up for the thing they are a fan of. And yeah I said standing up - because I'm not knocking the game, I'm knocking the developers and saying ""you ****ed up, fix it and make it right"".

The reason we fans are doing this is mainly due to EAware having the nerve to make an extended cut that is basically saying ""HUR HUR DON'T LIKE OUR ENDINGS? LETS TAKE A FAT DUMP ON THEIR FACES "" when in reality if they could spend that much time working on a ****ty piece of **** extended cut - they could have damn well spent time working on a brand new ending UNLESS they really are planning a major come back with 4 / 5 / 6 and having Shepard in it (Like with that ****ty series Halo - how MC was 100% confirmed gone at 3 but then brought back at 4). Now I seriously doubt EAware is this bright to actually pull such a move, but considering there is evidance to suggest the possibility of that (larger than normal dlc files that aren't as large IN GAME as they are PHYSICALLY) I won't leave it as a confirmed kill yet.

Still - if you are a fan - stand up and find the balls to help Mass Effect stay the ****ing course. Don't settle for EAware porking you in the chocolate starfish like some of these dumb mother ****ers do.

[Yate]

am I SERIOUSLY the only one who remembers the whining about how ME2's ending ruined the franchise?

eventually the three games will be considered one awesome adventure and we can stop this petty hipster bullcrap

you knew in ME1 you were only delaying the reapers

you knew in ME2 you were only delaying the reapers

Crucible makes a hell of a lot more sense than the Conduit

[Almostfaceman]

My avatar pretty much says it all with regards to the ending of the Mass Effect series, EC and all. Looks like Bethesda still earns my money though, and Zenimax is coming out with what may be quite possibly a World of Warcraft killer...

[Yate]

LeVaughnX wrote...

CDR David Shepard wrote...

In my honest opinion...I feel that if the ending ruins the entire series for you...then you weren't that much of a fan of the Mass Effect series and universe to begin with.

Saw your post, had to pick you out of the bunch David - sorry. A true fan knows when to speak up and lash out at the thing he or she is a fan of. I don't fear the backlash because the developers NEED to understand the **** up they just made. I spent years playing this series, getting into its story, enjoying it, and calling it probably the second best game / franchise ever created - and standing up for it whenever a critic bashed it (with logical debates). But when the producers/developers spit in your face not once, not twice, but three whole times THEN expect us to like it and lick it up - I come out and go ""Yeah okay how about no"". I'm a true fan because I have always existed as a lover of a good story, I still love Mass Effect BUT I will not just sit there while a company ****s itself out and becomes a corporation that doesn't give a **** about its fans. Sure - maybe you think you're a fan - but a real fan would have no problem standing up for the thing they are a fan of. And yeah I said standing up - because I'm not knocking the game, I'm knocking the developers and saying ""you ****ed up, fix it and make it right"".

The reason we fans are doing this is mainly due to EAware having the nerve to make an extended cut that is basically saying ""HUR HUR DON'T LIKE OUR ENDINGS? LETS TAKE A FAT DUMP ON THEIR FACES "" when in reality if they could spend that much time working on a ****ty piece of **** extended cut - they could have damn well spent time working on a brand new ending UNLESS they really are planning a major come back with 4 / 5 / 6 and having Shepard in it (Like with that ****ty series Halo - how MC was 100% confirmed gone at 3 but then brought back at 4). Now I seriously doubt EAware is this bright to actually pull such a move, but considering there is evidance to suggest the possibility of that (larger than normal dlc files that aren't as large IN GAME as they are PHYSICALLY) I won't leave it as a confirmed kill yet.

Still - if you are a fan - stand up and find the balls to help Mass Effect stay the ****ing course. Don't settle for EAware porking you in the chocolate starfish like some of these dumb mother ****ers do.

you got the EC. good job. now shut up and let the rest of us enjoy the game.

[LeVaughnX]

Lizzarder wrote...

RussianZombeh wrote...

Sick and tired of these threads.

It's been 8 months, Bioware knows you hated the endings - we don't need anymore of these pointless threads popping up.

Imo, the Extended Cut was pretty good and fixed things up for me. Like Corporal Doody said, you're all just being petty and awkward now. Go **** somewhere else.

This!

Or maybe you could avert your eyes from a message board that allows discussions and complaints like this? If you don't like it - don't read it - simple as that. I'm not holding the back of your head down and making you suck off EAware right now but you sure are acting like it.

[Yate]

if you hate ME3, the forums for ME1/ME2 are nearby. Have fun.

[LeVaughnX]

Yate wrote...

LeVaughnX wrote...

CDR David Shepard wrote...

In my honest opinion...I feel that if the ending ruins the entire series for you...then you weren't that much of a fan of the Mass Effect series and universe to begin with.

Saw your post, had to pick you out of the bunch David - sorry. A true fan knows when to speak up and lash out at the thing he or she is a fan of. I don't fear the backlash because the developers NEED to understand the **** up they just made. I spent years playing this series, getting into its story, enjoying it, and calling it probably the second best game / franchise ever created - and standing up for it whenever a critic bashed it (with logical debates). But when the producers/developers spit in your face not once, not twice, but three whole times THEN expect us to like it and lick it up - I come out and go ""Yeah okay how about no"". I'm a true fan because I have always existed as a lover of a good story, I still love Mass Effect BUT I will not just sit there while a company ****s itself out and becomes a corporation that doesn't give a **** about its fans. Sure - maybe you think you're a fan - but a real fan would have no problem standing up for the thing they are a fan of. And yeah I said standing up - because I'm not knocking the game, I'm knocking the developers and saying ""you ****ed up, fix it and make it right"".

The reason we fans are doing this is mainly due to EAware having the nerve to make an extended cut that is basically saying ""HUR HUR DON'T LIKE OUR ENDINGS? LETS TAKE A FAT DUMP ON THEIR FACES "" when in reality if they could spend that much time working on a ****ty piece of **** extended cut - they could have damn well spent time working on a brand new ending UNLESS they really are planning a major come back with 4 / 5 / 6 and having Shepard in it (Like with that ****ty series Halo - how MC was 100% confirmed gone at 3 but then brought back at 4). Now I seriously doubt EAware is this bright to actually pull such a move, but considering there is evidance to suggest the possibility of that (larger than normal dlc files that aren't as large IN GAME as they are PHYSICALLY) I won't leave it as a confirmed kill yet.

Still - if you are a fan - stand up and find the balls to help Mass Effect stay the ****ing course. Don't settle for EAware porking you in the chocolate starfish like some of these dumb mother ****ers do.

you got the EC. good job. now shut up and let the rest of us enjoy the game.

Oh so you like being **** on huh? Tell you what, I have this great game for gaming wannabe's like yourself its called Call of Duty. Maybe you should invest your time into that and stop ****ing up Mass Effect. Filth like you aren't considered gamers when you hop on a bandwagon just for the mulitplayer.

[Yate]

LeVaughnX wrote...

Lizzarder wrote...

RussianZombeh wrote...

Sick and tired of these threads.

It's been 8 months, Bioware knows you hated the endings - we don't need anymore of these pointless threads popping up.

Imo, the Extended Cut was pretty good and fixed things up for me. Like Corporal Doody said, you're all just being petty and awkward now. Go **** somewhere else.

This!

Or maybe you could avert your eyes from a message board that allows discussions and complaints like this? If you don't like it - don't read it - simple as that. I'm not holding the back of your head down and making you suck off EAware right now but you sure are acting like it.

if you claim the right to complain

we have the right to complain about your complaining

[Yate]

LeVaughnX wrote...

Yate wrote...

LeVaughnX wrote...

CDR David Shepard wrote...

In my honest opinion...I feel that if the ending ruins the entire series for you...then you weren't that much of a fan of the Mass Effect series and universe to begin with.

Saw your post, had to pick you out of the bunch David - sorry. A true fan knows when to speak up and lash out at the thing he or she is a fan of. I don't fear the backlash because the developers NEED to understand the **** up they just made. I spent years playing this series, getting into its story, enjoying it, and calling it probably the second best game / franchise ever created - and standing up for it whenever a critic bashed it (with logical debates). But when the producers/developers spit in your face not once, not twice, but three whole times THEN expect us to like it and lick it up - I come out and go ""Yeah okay how about no"". I'm a true fan because I have always existed as a lover of a good story, I still love Mass Effect BUT I will not just sit there while a company ****s itself out and becomes a corporation that doesn't give a **** about its fans. Sure - maybe you think you're a fan - but a real fan would have no problem standing up for the thing they are a fan of. And yeah I said standing up - because I'm not knocking the game, I'm knocking the developers and saying ""you ****ed up, fix it and make it right"".

The reason we fans are doing this is mainly due to EAware having the nerve to make an extended cut that is basically saying ""HUR HUR DON'T LIKE OUR ENDINGS? LETS TAKE A FAT DUMP ON THEIR FACES "" when in reality if they could spend that much time working on a ****ty piece of **** extended cut - they could have damn well spent time working on a brand new ending UNLESS they really are planning a major come back with 4 / 5 / 6 and having Shepard in it (Like with that ****ty series Halo - how MC was 100% confirmed gone at 3 but then brought back at 4). Now I seriously doubt EAware is this bright to actually pull such a move, but considering there is evidance to suggest the possibility of that (larger than normal dlc files that aren't as large IN GAME as they are PHYSICALLY) I won't leave it as a confirmed kill yet.

Still - if you are a fan - stand up and find the balls to help Mass Effect stay the ****ing course. Don't settle for EAware porking you in the chocolate starfish like some of these dumb mother ****ers do.

you got the EC. good job. now shut up and let the rest of us enjoy the game.

Oh so you like being **** on huh? Tell you what, I have this great game for gaming wannabe's like yourself its called Call of Duty. Maybe you should invest your time into that and stop ****ing up Mass Effect. Filth like you aren't considered gamers when you hop on a bandwagon just for the mulitplayer.

I've been a fan since ME1. And I'll continue being a fan. If you want to only play ME1/ME2, that's fine, have fun.

[Almostfaceman]

Yate wrote...

you got the EC. good job. now shut up and let the rest of us enjoy the game.

Really? Who's stopping you? Get off the message board and go play the game. That's right, trolling is more fun than Mass Effect, admit it. 

[Yate]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Yate wrote...

if you hate ME3, the forums for ME1/ME2 are nearby. Have fun.

Same could be said for people who hate people who hate.

If you want to hate, hate. Just don't clog up the forums with threads that will achieve nothing.

[LeVaughnX]

Yate wrote...

LeVaughnX wrote...

Yate wrote...

LeVaughnX wrote...

CDR David Shepard wrote...

In my honest opinion...I feel that if the ending ruins the entire series for you...then you weren't that much of a fan of the Mass Effect series and universe to begin with.

Saw your post, had to pick you out of the bunch David - sorry. A true fan knows when to speak up and lash out at the thing he or she is a fan of. I don't fear the backlash because the developers NEED to understand the **** up they just made. I spent years playing this series, getting into its story, enjoying it, and calling it probably the second best game / franchise ever created - and standing up for it whenever a critic bashed it (with logical debates). But when the producers/developers spit in your face not once, not twice, but three whole times THEN expect us to like it and lick it up - I come out and go ""Yeah okay how about no"". I'm a true fan because I have always existed as a lover of a good story, I still love Mass Effect BUT I will not just sit there while a company ****s itself out and becomes a corporation that doesn't give a **** about its fans. Sure - maybe you think you're a fan - but a real fan would have no problem standing up for the thing they are a fan of. And yeah I said standing up - because I'm not knocking the game, I'm knocking the developers and saying ""you ****ed up, fix it and make it right"".

The reason we fans are doing this is mainly due to EAware having the nerve to make an extended cut that is basically saying ""HUR HUR DON'T LIKE OUR ENDINGS? LETS TAKE A FAT DUMP ON THEIR FACES "" when in reality if they could spend that much time working on a ****ty piece of **** extended cut - they could have damn well spent time working on a brand new ending UNLESS they really are planning a major come back with 4 / 5 / 6 and having Shepard in it (Like with that ****ty series Halo - how MC was 100% confirmed gone at 3 but then brought back at 4). Now I seriously doubt EAware is this bright to actually pull such a move, but considering there is evidance to suggest the possibility of that (larger than normal dlc files that aren't as large IN GAME as they are PHYSICALLY) I won't leave it as a confirmed kill yet.

Still - if you are a fan - stand up and find the balls to help Mass Effect stay the ****ing course. Don't settle for EAware porking you in the chocolate starfish like some of these dumb mother ****ers do.

you got the EC. good job. now shut up and let the rest of us enjoy the game.

Oh so you like being **** on huh? Tell you what, I have this great game for gaming wannabe's like yourself its called Call of Duty. Maybe you should invest your time into that and stop ****ing up Mass Effect. Filth like you aren't considered gamers when you hop on a bandwagon just for the mulitplayer.

I've been a fan since ME1. And I'll continue being a fan. If you want to only play ME1/ME2, that's fine, have fun.

Buddy you have a signature that states "Mass Effect 3 deserves better servers" - you're a ****ing half-wit liar. You're a troll who enjoys rubbing your throat as a brown trout gentle trickles down it.

[Yate]

Almostfaceman wrote...

Yate wrote...

you got the EC. good job. now shut up and let the rest of us enjoy the game.

Really? Who's stopping you? Get off the message board and go play the game. That's right, trolling is more fun than Mass Effect, admit it. 

Not 'more' fun.

And asking people to stop complaining about something they've been complaining about for months is not trolling.