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[cronshaw]

GallowsPole wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Most smart players prefer builds that are ranged not CQC unless it's on a Kroguard or something similar.

Fixed

some of the most powerful builds in the game are CQC
most smart players prefer builds that let them kill stuff really fast 
ranged or CQC

[megabeast37215]

GallowsPole wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Most smart players prefer builds that are ranged not CQC unless it's on a Kroguard or something similar.

Fixed

Seriously? Players that like CQC that isn't with the Kroguard aren't smart?

Fail.... bigtime.

[mrcanada]

Kalas321 wrote...

Shes too squishy for my taste. My kroguard uses the reager better.

Sign of noobness is needing Kroguard invincibility to excel at the game.

[Kel Riever]

Screw the Reegar.

Why don't more people use the Asari Valkyrie with...other Asari Valkyries?

Seriously, go tear through a level with four Asari Valkyries sometime, armed with Reegars, or whatever else you want. It it totally gross.

[poonts]

zorinho20 wrote...

Nice,but tech armor is ruining pretty Asari,so I´ll skip it.

can we please change tech armor so it doesn't look like a 1990s Starter jacket? And pink? 

take away skin color, add tech armor color pleeease. it'll never happen but, a guy can dream.

[mistervirginia]

reegar? i saw a guy on youtube play with an A-12 and i haven't looked back since... i might try the reegar, though

[GallowsPole]

megabeast37215 wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Most smart players prefer builds that are ranged not CQC unless it's on a Kroguard or something similar.

Fixed

Seriously? Players that like CQC that isn't with the Kroguard aren't smart?

Fail.... bigtime.

Negative. Krogans are designed to be pure melee characters as well as Batarians, Vorchas, Turians etc etc.To say that YOU play them out of character or anyone else for that matter, does not mean that the majority of players can. That's why it is SMART, to go conservative and play with a more versatile mid to long range character, rather than limiting your play style to purely CQC. CQC certainly has its role, but only on certain characters was it made to offer it to be a primary offensive tactic.

Edit: Im trying to speak to the majority of average/above average players. Not the uber players who can play with anything. PUGs suck cause some come here, read these threads and watch a video or two and go gee, I can do that. The they find out, ummmmm no I cant.

Modifié par GallowsPole, 20 novembre 2012 - 03:49 .

[Dimlor]

chipsandwich wrote...

On that note, why don't we see more Harrier GI or Raider GI? The only people I've seen playing those classes are ISHYGDDT and Lord_Sirian, respectively.

Believe me, if I had a Rider I so much would use it, alas I don't haz one :c.

Also is the 3 shotting a bug or a feature of the gun?

[megabeast37215]

GallowsPole wrote...
Negative. Krogans are designed to be pure melee characters as well as Batarians, Vorchas, Turians etc etc.To say that YOU play them out of character or anyone else for that matter, does not mean that the majority of players can. That's why it is SMART, to go conservative and play with a more versatile mid to long range character, rather than limiting your play style to purely CQC. CQC certainly has its role, but only on certain characters was it made to offer it to be a primary offensive tactic.

So... I should spec her out of Annihilation Field?

Fury also shouldn't be played CQC?

Slayer/Novaguard/Drellguard/Smashguard shouldn't be played CQC?

You see where I'm going with this...

Don't make silly statement... you're better than that.

2/3 of the classes in the game are more suited to medium range combat... I don't want to stifle variety just so I can be safe all the time. Being safe is over rated... being inside spawns with stuff dying all around you, makes you feel alive. I feel this way about real life hobbies too. Some people go fishing from the safety of a boat, I slap on a tank and go down to the bottom and put spears in fish heads.

[poonts]

GallowsPole wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Most smart players prefer builds that are ranged not CQC unless it's on a Kroguard or something similar.

Fixed

hahahahahahahahaha




ha

[megabeast37215]

poonts wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Most smart players prefer builds that are ranged not CQC unless it's on a Kroguard or something similar.

Fixed

hahahahahahahahaha

ha

I'll never be smart

I better go sit behind a box/counter somewhere, Firebase White sounds like a good place...

[NuclearTech76]

megabeast37215 wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Most smart players prefer builds that are ranged not CQC unless it's on a Kroguard or something similar.

Fixed

Seriously? Players that like CQC that isn't with the Kroguard aren't smart?

Fail.... bigtime.

Some people can't understand how people play CQC effectively with anything squishier than a Krogan. Some don't understand a level of skill that is above theirs.

[poonts]

remind me, do enemies die simply from u staying alive?

[poonts]

@megabeast I couldn't come close to putting it as well as u have.

+1 my friend

[GallowsPole]

megabeast37215 wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...
Negative. Krogans are designed to be pure melee characters as well as Batarians, Vorchas, Turians etc etc.To say that YOU play them out of character or anyone else for that matter, does not mean that the majority of players can. That's why it is SMART, to go conservative and play with a more versatile mid to long range character, rather than limiting your play style to purely CQC. CQC certainly has its role, but only on certain characters was it made to offer it to be a primary offensive tactic.

So... I should spec her out of Annihilation Field?

Fury also shouldn't be played CQC?

Slayer/Novaguard/Drellguard/Smashguard shouldn't be played CQC?

You see where I'm going with this...

Don't make silly statement... you're better than that.

2/3 of the classes in the game are more suited to medium range combat... I don't want to stifle variety just so I can be safe all the time. Being safe is over rated... being inside spawns with stuff dying all around you, makes you feel alive. I feel this way about real life hobbies too. Some people go fishing from the safety of a boat, I slap on a tank and go down to the bottom and put spears in fish heads.

I agree with you 100%. All the characters you listed, are in fact CQC characters, or rather they can be played that way. Does a Fury need to be played CQC? Nope it sure doesn't and it can be as effective as playing it CQC. Vanguards need their shields replenished, so they have little choice but to get in close. As far as the Valkyrie goes, which was the original topic, she does not need to limit herself to CQC with a reegar. That's all Im saying.

[Uh Cold]

I still see a lot of people in pugs playing her like a slow fury.

[poonts]

Uh Cold wrote...

I still see a lot of people in pugs playing her like a slow fury.

a slow fury that can't teleport at that.

ok they both have AF. The similarities kinda end there for me. AF + warp does not work so great on anything other than a solitary mook. 

are there situations when I'm glad I can detonate AF with warp? hell yes. but it's more of a backup BE if u ask me. AF on a Valkyrie is perfect for CQC and replenishing your shields. as many have stated, ideally you want to warp -> dodge in close --> fire shotgun --> move on. obviously it doesn't always work that way, which is why I'm glad she's versatile. 

but Fury-ing a Valkyrie is just wrong. and u should feel bad.

[megabeast37215]

GallowsPole wrote...

I agree with you 100%. All the characters you listed, are in fact CQC characters, or rather they can be played that way. Does a Fury need to be played CQC? Nope it sure doesn't and it can be as effective as playing it CQC. Vanguards need their shields replenished, so they have little choice but to get in close. As far as the Valkyrie goes, which was the original topic, she does not need to limit herself to CQC with a reegar. That's all Im saying.

Well... you can play every character like a Soldier if you want. Human Sentinel does it wonderfully... that's the character I use if I want to Warp/shoot/make a few booms. Turian Sentinel is the best for Warp/shoot (until the Asari Huntress shows up). Just because you can build all the characters to play like a Rainbow 6 game, doesn't mean you should IMO.

Stardusk made a Kroguard video of a chargless Kroguard. I didn't watch it, but the pic was of him hiding behind a box in the LZ of Ghost. Kinda silly to play the Kroguard that way IMO.

I disagree about the Fury... she should be played CQC. She has every advantage you could want in a CQC character except tankiness... speed, stagger, damage, debuff, sheild recharge, able to clip through walls to escape, etc. You couldn't design a better CQC class (except the Slayer). She's better at CQC than the Kroguard due to being able to deal wit sync killers more effectively, and not needing the stairs to do so.

[megabeast37215]

poonts wrote...
a slow fury that can't teleport at that.

ok they both have AF. The similarities kinda end there for me. AF + warp does not work so great on anything other than a solitary mook. 

are there situations when I'm glad I can detonate AF with warp? hell yes. but it's more of a backup BE if u ask me.

Pretty much.

A backup BE... I like that. That's pretty much what it is too... or sometimes I open up on a boss with a BE to stagger it so it can't shoot me while I melt it's face.

[GallowsPole]

I'm just talking the average Joe. I personally play the Fury up close and personal. I just don't think that people should get stuck on one build, especially in pugs. I prefer to be more versatile so I'm well equipped to solo if need be, but also be able to revive players or pick off menaces around perimeters. I like my pugs to end in extraction, not destruction. Just my personal take on things.

I probably play most characters as seen on these forms with minor changes to suit the way I play.

[Kalas Magnus]

mrcanada wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

Shes too squishy for my taste. My kroguard uses the reager better.

Sign of noobness is needing Kroguard invincibility to excel at the game.

tis true. Im a scrub. 

I'll leave the reager-quarian female engineer to better players like you.

The reager kroguard combo is too efficient to pass up. 

Modifié par Kalas321, 20 novembre 2012 - 04:30 .

[upinya slayin]

Kalas321 wrote...

Shes too squishy for my taste. My kroguard uses the reager better.

Doens't mean you need to take OP layouts every game. If you only used kits that nobody did better. you'd only play with about 3 kits out of possible hundreds

[upinya slayin]

I'm gonna try out this build from gollum. Its the valkeryie melee build

http://narida.pytalh...gernautShield5/

3200 damage per melee in an AOE

Modifié par upinya slayin, 20 novembre 2012 - 04:31 .

[megabeast37215]

Kalas321 wrote...
I'll leave the reager-quarian female engineer to better players like you.

The reager kroguard combo is too efficient to pass up. 

Scrub....

The reason the Reegar Kroguard is so effective is because the Kroguard sucks at generating offense... he is pretty much all defense. Reegar actually lets him kill things at a decent rate. I've tried every weapon on the Kroguard... nothing synergizes better than the Reegar. I used to run the Piranha on him... but I think it's a weaker option... so is the Wraith, Claymore, etc.

[Revinance]

This has little to do with the Valkyrie or the Reegar. This is about the the bug between Warp and Incendiary Ammo. Take that away and this freak show goes with it.