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[megabeast37215]

upinya slayin wrote...

I'm gonna try out this build from gollum. Its the valkeryie melee build

http://narida.pytalh...gernautShield5/

3200 damage per melee in an AOE

I used that build a few times for the melee challenge... it's ok. I didn't feel like it set the world on fire...

[poonts]

GallowsPole wrote...

I'm just talking the average Joe. I personally play the Fury up close and personal. I just don't think that people should get stuck on one build, especially in pugs. I prefer to be more versatile so I'm well equipped to solo if need be, but also be able to revive players or pick off menaces around perimeters. I like my pugs to end in extraction, not destruction. Just my personal take on things.

I probably play most characters as seen on these forms with minor changes to suit the way I play.

well, see, just say that in the first place next time.

[upinya slayin]

megabeast37215 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

I'm gonna try out this build from gollum. Its the valkeryie melee build

http://narida.pytalh...gernautShield5/

3200 damage per melee in an AOE

I used that build a few times for the melee challenge... it's ok. I didn't feel like it set the world on fire...

I've heard gollum set the world on fire with it. But then again not eveyrone is as good as him

[megabeast37215]

upinya slayin wrote...
I've heard gollum set the world on fire with it. But then again not eveyrone is as good as him

It worked on Gold... wiped mook spawns effectively. The trick is getting as many of them as you can in the first melee... because the ones you don't get inside the radius are gonna light your ass up.

[Derpatina]

The setup has a high learning curve, so most people won't want to bother to use it if they can't do well with it within 10 or so matches. I think the fact that the power setup is superficially like the Fury's (so people try to play it like one) doesn't help.

What I'm really wondering is why people don't use the Paladin more often.

[megabeast37215]

Derpatina wrote...
What I'm really wondering is why people don't use the Paladin more often.

Because CQC is scary....

The only time I see pugs playing him, they are spamming Snap Freeze through walls and not doing anything else... Glacier room of shame taught them all such good habits.

[NuclearTech76]

I don't see the shaman much either. If you just want a tank to exploit the incendiary bug, he is hard to kill.

[Kalas Magnus]

upinya slayin wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

Shes too squishy for my taste. My kroguard uses the reager better.

Doens't mean you need to take OP layouts every game. If you only used kits that nobody did better. you'd only play with about 3 kits out of possible hundreds

I thought that was the whole point of this thread.'

[upinya slayin]

megabeast37215 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...
I've heard gollum set the world on fire with it. But then again not eveyrone is as good as him

It worked on Gold... wiped mook spawns effectively. The trick is getting as many of them as you can in the first melee... because the ones you don't get inside the radius are gonna light your ass up.

lol thanks. I'll remember that for when i give it a try.

Slim had the joke when i said doesn't she get like a 50% DR while in the melee anmiation and he was like yeah but you don't even notice it when your getting lit up lol

[upinya slayin]

Kalas321 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

Shes too squishy for my taste. My kroguard uses the reager better.

Doens't mean you need to take OP layouts every game. If you only used kits that nobody did better. you'd only play with about 3 kits out of possible hundreds

I thought that was the whole point of this thread.'

The point was asking why a certain combo isn't used that much when the OP feels it is a great combo

[Grotaiche]

Watching the video again and what's the most impressive are the stacked DOT. For example, at 00:53 Feneckus engages an Atlas. 3 seconds later, he is staggered by the Atlas' melee while at least 4 armor bars are left. Then 2 bars are depleted when the Atlas finishes its move and then it dies without Feneckus had to shoot him again. That's what, 8000 armor damage in 2 ticks ?

Which DOTs do we have here ? Warp + AF + fire from the Incendiary Ammo (IV I suppose ?). Warp and AF will do something like 1000 damage per second. So I know it has been said previously in the thread but I really would like to know how this would go by using anything other than Incendiary Ammo. I'll probably try it out tonight

(a much clearer example can be seen at 00:10 ; once the clip is empty around 00:13, the Banshee's armor has 7 bars left and dies 3 seconds later without having been shot again)

[peddroelm]

Revinance wrote...

This has little to do with the Valkyrie or the Reegar. This is about the the bug between Warp and Incendiary Ammo. Take that away and this freak show goes with it.

+1

[Grun7mas7er]

Feneckus wrote...

Usually people, especially PUGs, tend to use the most OP builds possible. That's why it's nearly impossible to be in a lobby without at least one infiltrator, although it's not as ridiculous as it was pre-TC nerf.

Since it doesn't get any more OP than Valkyrie + Reegar (), I find it surprising that I've yet to see one.

Doesn't really require any skill. You don't have to aim and she's quite durable thanks to tech armor + drain evo from annihilation field. Perfect for below average players in theory.

My observation is that usually people, especially PUGs, tend to be light years behind the forumites in terms of character builds. I know the nerfed Destroyer is still popular.

But I agree, the Valkyrie is not getting her potential playtime. I expect to see a rise in popularity among PUGs. 

[Kalas Magnus]

upinya slayin wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

Shes too squishy for my taste. My kroguard uses the reager better.

Doens't mean you need to take OP layouts every game. If you only used kits that nobody did better. you'd only play with about 3 kits out of possible hundreds

I thought that was the whole point of this thread.'

The point was asking why a certain combo isn't used that much when the OP feels it is a great combo

so great that he feels it is OP...

I said she is too squishy and would get dropped by the geth easily. Then you said that I'm closeminded. 

So break the speed run record with this combo and I will reconsider.

Modifié par Kalas321, 20 novembre 2012 - 05:34 .

[GallowsPole]

A lot of randoms don't use or buy consumables.That's why you wont see this around a lot.

[upinya slayin]

Kalas321 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

Shes too squishy for my taste. My kroguard uses the reager better.

Doens't mean you need to take OP layouts every game. If you only used kits that nobody did better. you'd only play with about 3 kits out of possible hundreds

I thought that was the whole point of this thread.'

The point was asking why a certain combo isn't used that much when the OP feels it is a great combo

so great that he feels it is OP...

I said she is too squishy and would get dropped by the geth easily. Then you said that I'm closeminded. 

So break the speed run record with this combo and I will reconsider.

He feels its OP. you feel its squishy but then agree the point is OP? makes no sense. Then you tell me to break a speed run record with a melee character? come on man. Thought you were better then that. I guess not.

Its funny how i see all these "average" players get all cocky all of a sudden while using the same 2-3 OP layouts everygame and trashing eveyrone on the forums like they solo platinum with a volus eveyr game with 10 waves survived.

Some people need to get over themselves and stop ebing online DBs

[Feneckus]

Kalas321 wrote...

So break the speed run record with this combo and I will reconsider.

That combo is not great for speed runs because bosses appear in the later waves, when it's all about nuking spawns.

You can definitely use it on a no rocket speed run though.

[capn233]

No average player is going to play a CQC build that doesn't include Charge or Tactical Cloak. That's probably why.

[spudspot]

Grun7mas7er wrote...

My observation is that usually people, especially PUGs, tend to be light years behind the forumites in terms of character builds. I know the nerfed Destroyer is still popular.

This. I especially doubt that the Incendiary Ammo + Warp thingy is known by many outside the forums...

[Taritu]

Raider accuracy is truly atrocious, that's why I don't use it. It's not about reload cancelling, I use the claymore plenty.

[Kalas Magnus]

upinya slayin wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

Shes too squishy for my taste. My kroguard uses the reager better.

Doens't mean you need to take OP layouts every game. If you only used kits that nobody did better. you'd only play with about 3 kits out of possible hundreds

I thought that was the whole point of this thread.'

The point was asking why a certain combo isn't used that much when the OP feels it is a great combo

so great that he feels it is OP...

I said she is too squishy and would get dropped by the geth easily. Then you said that I'm closeminded. 

So break the speed run record with this combo and I will reconsider.

He feels its OP. you feel its squishy but then agree the point is OP? makes no sense. Then you tell me to break a speed run record with a melee character? come on man. Thought you were better then that. I guess not.

Its funny how i see all these "average" players get all cocky all of a sudden while using the same 2-3 OP layouts everygame and trashing eveyrone on the forums like they solo platinum with a volus eveyr game with 10 waves survived.

Some people need to get over themselves and stop ebing online DBs

What you talking about melee character?  Reager+incendiary+valkyrie 

I can play all classes. Do I want to? No! Batarian soldier and krogan soldier are OP but I dont feel the need to use them. I know some classes are better than others. I dont deny the fact like others do. In the original post though he wrote, 
"Usually people, especially PUGs, tend to use the most OP builds possible.". I said it is not OP. The kroguard reager combo is. That is the reason you dont see more valkyries in pugs.

Then you attack me saying Im close minded. I'm sorry I dont run the arc pistol on my quarian female engineer every game. Does that make me a bad player?

Modifié par Kalas321, 20 novembre 2012 - 06:14 .

[LegionofRannoch]

chipsandwich wrote...

On that note, why don't we see more Harrier GI or Raider GI? The only people I've seen playing those classes are ISHYGDDT and Lord_Sirian, respectively.

i play harrier geth and quarian male raider.

i will only use reeger on asari valkrie when theres a team of biotics. other then that i will use pirana.

[Xaijin]

peddroelmz wrote...

Xaijin wrote...

The cloak cast + power synergy bonus may give her similar bleed to the Shaman, which is better than the valkyries, but she won't have the hella detonation bonus.

On the other hand, hers will always work whereas the Shaman's is based on one the worst implemented powers in the game.

The biotic explosion damage difference (af+warp // warp + shockwave ) is less than negligible (the entire BE damage itself is negligilbe small potates)  compared to the amount of damage incendiary + warp can do on a full reegar clip ..

Like I said, there was a reason I wanted you guys to test a full exposed detonation with a fully power+barrier spec'd Shaman... Also, wiping a banshee at half health and two completely untouched Pyros and a hunter directly behind her on platinum is not remotely insignificant.

Modifié par Xaijin, 20 novembre 2012 - 05:58 .

[Xaijin]

udinbak4 wrote...

I don't care if Reegar is OP, the weapon looks very cool, and it's fun to use.

Reegar, Piranha, Wraith are my favourite shotguns.

Claymore was my favourite shotgun in ME2, I have not used it in MP yet.

The reegar isn't OP, the broken interaction is. Under your premise the Piranha, Hurricane, PPR and even Locust and Phaeston are OP.

Modifié par Xaijin, 20 novembre 2012 - 06:09 .

[Eriseley]

I can't get used to the feeling of Banshee balls on my face, that's why.