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[CR121691]

It just wont suite Mass Effect. If Mass Effect will become an FPS or even an MMO I won't buy it.

[ZeCollectorDestroya]

I have been wanting this for quite some time. A Mass Effect FPSRPG would work great. Change the combat, DONE.

I'm sick of TP, it feels so out of tune in this modern day.

[Liamv2]

I hate the FPS view point i play skyrim and new vagas in TPS view instead

[ManOfSteel]

I think people just like to assume that any First Person Shooter that comes out has to be like Call of Duty. It's rather annoying.

[Sable Rhapsody]

While I have no problem with this in theory, first person games make me nauseous as hell. Shooter, RPG, it really doesn't matter. So go for it, but I certainly won't be playing it.

Unless it's Portal. I would literally play for fifteen minutes, then lie down for a half hour, just to get through Portal. So worth it, but that was a hell of a game.

[MassStorm]

If is FP then will not buy any ME games

[Grubas]

Arcian wrote...

 ... but there have been a lot of great FPSRPGs.

Deus Ex and DX:Human Revolution.
System Shock.
BioShock.
Elder Scrolls (well, some of them).
Fallout 3 and NV.
Neuro Hunter.
Gothic.
Thief.
Arx Fatalis.
Ultima.
Borderlands.
Stalker.

Lands of Lore.
Lands of Lore 2.
Lands of Lore 3.

First Person Perspective is more immersive, since puts you at eye level with the characters you interact. Just leave the shooter out of it. Its not considered a shooter when you do decisively more then shooting.

Modifié par Grubas, 20 novembre 2012 - 11:55 .

[anillee]

Mass Effect has done well as a third person shooter. You know the old saying, "If it ain't broke..."

Considering BioWare is kind of in the doghouse these days with their fans, the *last* thing they need to is stop doing something most of their fan base has no problem with (third person perspective) to switch to something that would alienate a percentage of their established fan base (first person).

It's just not really a sound move in the end.

[Grubas]

Arcian wrote...

But the point is to have FP and TP perspectives you can switch between at any point in the game. As a result, people can play in the perspective they prefer best.

Or do you guys hate optional choices?

Its not about the perspective. The game needs to be well done. Chances are the next installment will use even more shiny graphics, and even less game mechanics. Im not shure that its just the pessimist in me speaking.

I would love to look a charging Krogan face-to-face. (realisticly i would have to look up)

[Sable Rhapsody]

Arcian wrote...

But the point is to have FP and TP perspectives you can switch between at any point in the game. As a result, people can play in the perspective they prefer best.

Or do you guys hate optional choices?

I am 100% down with toggles if they're well done.  But that's the criteria.  If they're well done, and that's a resource cost.  FP and TP perspectives affect FOV and camera at least.  I'd rather have one well-done perspective than two half-assed ones for the sake of variety.

Modifié par Sable Rhapsody, 20 novembre 2012 - 12:23 .

[Eckswhyzed]

I'm keen for a first person Mass Effect. Sure a FPS/RPG hybrid would be nice, but I think I'm the only person on the BSN who would love a full-on FPS.

[RKB28]

The market is full of fps´s and Halo has the spot for sci-fi shooter. It is best for for the Mass Effect brand to not step into such a overcrowded market.

[Dominus]

I'm personally not opposed to the idea, but I get the feeling that the fanbase will be too skewed in
voting for that possibility to get a majority in favor of First-Person.

If they do choose to take this direction, it would be more likely to fall in the spin-offy titles than the major titles, i.e. Halo Wars.

[Snypy]

There're too many FPS games already.

[Cutlass Jack]

I hate FPS purely for the camera views and not for any other reason. Its always a terrible choice for an RPG, especially one where customizing your appearance is a big part of the game.

It has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the 'mindless shooter' mentality. Spoiler: there are mindless shooters in 3rd person too. The games of your above list I actually played to completion also featured a 3rd person mode (Elder Scrolls, Fallout). The ones I only played halfway before losing interest did not. Deus Ex being the notable exception, though it was 50% of each view.

Modifié par Cutlass Jack, 20 novembre 2012 - 01:48 .

[N7 Spectre525]

Whats the deal with wanting Mass Effect 4 to be a FPS? There are tons of FPS on the market to sate anyones needs, why would Bioware change up their formula now?
I've played all the Halo's and other shooters and I must say that 3rd person is my preferred choice. The whole flooting gun thing always felt silly to me and the field of view is restrictive...no thanks.

[Eurhetemec]

Arcian wrote...

 ... but there have been a lot of great FPSRPGs.

Deus Ex and DX:Human Revolution.
System Shock.
BioShock.
Elder Scrolls (well, some of them).
Fallout 3 and NV.
Neuro Hunter.
Gothic.
Thief.
Arx Fatalis.
Ultima.
Borderlands.
Stalker.

And that's the tip of the iceberg. What's more, most of these are much better RPGs than ME where mechanics, choices and path options are concerned. So, why the bigotry against FPS's? Not every FPS is a mindless shooter like CoD and BF. Mass Effect 4 would work amazingly like an FPS, but there should definitely be an option to play third person as well.

And here we go.

If you think "most" of these were better than ME when it comes to choices and path options, then your opinion is utterly worthless to me.

BioShock, Thief 1/2/3, Stalker, Ultima Underworld 1/2, Gothic 1/2/3, Arx Fatalis - good games? Yes. Great games? Some of 'em. Good choices and path options? Hahahahaha. No. Get real. Great mechanics? Only Thief and UU. BioShock is painfully mediocre AND has NO real choices, so what the hell? Borderlands is a bad joke for anything but MP fun.

Of the games you list, only Morrowind, DX:HR, System Shock, and Skyrim even remotely compare to the ME games.

EDIT - Also Gothic and Thief 3 are third-person... so what the hell?

Modifié par Eurhetemec, 20 novembre 2012 - 02:11 .

[spirosz]

Most (key word here) people hate FPS because it's the "cool" thing to do, tbh.

[masleslie]

I think there is a difference between those against First Person Shooters because of the 'Shooter' bit & those against them because of the 'First' bit. Let me explain.

Many Mass Effect fans, especially those who have been with the series from the start, like RPG's. They focus on story & character. Combat is just a logical outcome of the conflicts of the story. To them FPS is just about mindlessly running around shooting stuff, and they are not interested. I know that is often a wrong assumption & many FPS games have deep & engaging stories, but that is how some fans feel.

I dislike FPS games because of the first person perspective. Turn on your TV or go to the cinema & you will always see the characters of the story on screen. Contrary to what you might think, letting the player look through the eyes of the character does not make them feel more involved - it tends to distance them from the character. Cut-scenes always jar as they suddenly switch the way the character is viewed. No FPS i have seen (& i have seen plenty) has truly managed to present the world as we see it through our own eyes. We tend to forgive all this because of familiarity with the game style.

Ultimately first person games, although they can be great, offer nothing that a third person game can't also offer. Third person games on the other hand offer so much more in the cinematic presentation of the story (throughout not just in a few scenes) and in the control of & interaction with the lead character.

I don't 'hate' first person games, but however good they may be I feel they could always have been better as third person. So I hope Bioware sticks with the successful format of ME1-3.

[Unschuld]

Mass Effect is better in third person.... for similar reasons to why MWO never should be anything but first person. Honestly, I think I'd be willing to see what FP would be like in Mass Effect, as I'm fine with Elder Scrolls. However, the game would have a completely different feel to it. I don't think the iconic cinematic transitions would be quite as smooth in ME with first person perspective as opposed to the current 3rd person.

[Ryuukishi]

ME should stay third person. I like being able to see the character I create.

[Chala]

Arcian wrote...

But the point is to have FP and TP perspectives you can switch between at any point in the game. As a result, people can play in the perspective they prefer best.

Or do you guys hate optional choices?

I really wish they make this on the next game, that feature worked wonderfully in games like Star Wars Battlefront.