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#226
mackfactor

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DullahansXMark wrote...

I'm pretty sure you're literally the only person who doesn't want this stuff.


thisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthis.

And apparently the only one willing to waste our time whining about it.

#227
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For the record, I love all the new characters. Despite recycled powers, the race and power combinations have all resulted in unique and fun kits. Also, from a design perspective, it is a really good idea to mix up already experienced elements to create new kits - it conserves precious design space and allows for future DLC content to carry more weight in contrast.

Keep up the great work, Bioware. I recommend you to all my friends.

#228
t3hTwinky

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The Geth Trooper is boring? lol wut?

Somebody doesn't remember the rage filled threads full of people arguing about the Hunter Mode/Flamer combinations. Can it kill an Atlas in one cast? It is a mystery.

Somebody also doesn't remember about how everyone thought the Batguard was going to suck, but then it didn't, also hatesurfing.

Somebody also apparently doesn't remember that not only is this content good, it's free.

Get over yourself, op.

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Bryan Johnson wrote...

Let's face it here:

Are you gonna like every character that gets released? Nope
Is there a character that you are waiting for? Probably
Are you the only person that matters? I think thousands of people would disagree
Does the BSN represent everyone out there? Absolutely not
Are you entitled to your own opinion? Yes
Am I entitled to mine? Yes
Is there people out there that are gonna like the kit this week? Yes
Is there people that will like the next one? Yes
Is there people that will strongly dislike the next one? Yes


Apply Cold Water to Burned Area...
Well said, Bryan.

I know Ersa loves the new Volus, good for attracting all the aggro (Plus the Praetorian kill with the combat drone!)
I don't like the Volus, but I know people who love the Volus.
What does this thread even seek to accomplish, OP?  Where are you going with this?  The characters will be released once a week for the next few weeks, and no thread is going to change that.  If you don't like this weeks character, then be happy when someone who loves the class saves your skin with it.

Is the Volus Sentinel an inherently bad class?  No, of course not.  It is a healer with two distractive powers, its NOT going to top scoreboards with other good players.  It is simply not meant to, it controls a crowd and helps teammates very effectively (the Volus Vanguard will be the ULTIMATE medic!)

The only class I have a hard time seeing used effectively out of this DLC is the Vorcha Engineer, but then again the ranged nature of the character with Bloodlust seems to encourage a little safter use than that of the Soldier and Sentinel.  Could be powerful, haven't seen it done right yet though.

In short, not everyone has the same problems or preferences that you do.  Do try to think about others when posting something like this.

#230
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If you don't like them, don't play them.

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Twinkles DeVere

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V_Davion wrote...

If you don't like them, don't play them.


Voice of reason ;)

I'm sad they didn't put new skins on though, and now it's been pointed out that the Batarian has a human voice when doing the Biotic Charge, it's kinda bugging me! (Even tho he's awesome)

Lazy, lazy Bioware *shakes head*

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It's free content. I'd understand if you'd paid money to unlock these characters and consequently found them 'boring', but nothing has been lost as a result of them.

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Bryan Johnson wrote...

Let's face it here:

Are you gonna like every character that gets released? Nope
Is there a character that you are waiting for? Probably
Are you the only person that matters? I think thousands of people would disagree
Does the BSN represent everyone out there? Absolutely not
Are you entitled to your own opinion? Yes
Am I entitled to mine? Yes
Is there people out there that are gonna like the kit this week? Yes
Is there people that will like the next one? Yes
Is there people that will strongly dislike the next one? Yes

Thanks for saying that.


Personally, my only issue with this is the slow release rate... and perhaps the rapidly overwhelmed class selection menu. After Earth DLC I was really itching to see what BioWare could squeeze out of clever combinations of older powers. I like the experimentation. I'm not crazy about every kit, but some of them are doing some really interesting things. Some of them aren't that interesting, but are actually really fun. 

...I certainly hope lessons learned from the design, and reception of these classes is going to inform future titles.

Modifié par EvanKester, 21 novembre 2012 - 11:11 .


#234
Liamv2

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God i am glad i dont work at bioware i whould be tempted just to yell STFU at eveyone on BSN

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I'm not keen on the Volus but others are so that's cool. What made me grin last night was when I dropped into a game with a loads of Volus mercs. Felt a bit like Chewbacca with the ewoks...

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Bryan Johnson wrote...

Let's face it here:

Are you gonna like every character that gets released? Nope
Is there a character that you are waiting for? Probably
Are you the only person that matters? I think thousands of people would disagree
Does the BSN represent everyone out there? Absolutely not
Are you entitled to your own opinion? Yes
Am I entitled to mine? Yes
Is there people out there that are gonna like the kit this week? Yes
Is there people that will like the next one? Yes
Is there people that will strongly dislike the next one? Yes


ELBOW FROM THE SKY 

#237
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I unlocked the High Velocity Fist Delivery System (aka Batarian Brawler) and I find him pretty great, it will never substitute the Broguard in my heart but it's incredibly fun to play with and not spammy at all.

So yeah, most people are only going to like a small subset of the characters. That does not mean they are not good. 

That said, I agree that Krodepts should have something unique, like a weaker barrier that makes their melee detonate bsplosions. 

Modifié par Escocido, 21 novembre 2012 - 10:22 .


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Yeah, the designs could have been different but to say they're boring? In this DLC, I got several characters I have been wishing for, since the start, Geth Trooper, Asari Valkyrie, Turian Ghost, Drell Assassin, Quarian Marksman & Batarian Brawler, please keep adding more of these "boring" kits bioware.

#239
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people are actually complaining about free dlc contents that are given to you at no additional costs?

i bet you'd complain if someone was to give you a free Ferrari too,
'waaaaaa its insurance is too highhhhhhhh, stop giving me free cars waaaa'

geez.

Modifié par Ankarah, 21 novembre 2012 - 10:52 .


#240
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Bryan Johnson wrote...

Let's face it here:

Are you entitled to your own opinion? Yes
Am I entitled to mine? Yes


You know what they say about opinions right?

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DullahansXMark wrote...
I'm pretty sure you're literally the only person who doesn't want this stuff.

You're wrong.

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I love my asari sentinel, geth trooper and volus. Ive not played the other new chars much but im 99.9% sure theres lots of people who love them. Im enjoying the one kit released a week.

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I thought the Volus Sentinel would suck and be boring as hell, I was proven wrong after my first game playing him.

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I totally agree with op, i care very little for any of the new chars, last char i liked was the fury, but after singularity has ben made boss, i dropped her again for the original adept. For me chars has just been annoying **** that gave junk enstead of weapon or gear upgrades. I think it is good bioware is trying to keep the game interesting, but we have so many chars and weapons its redicilous now, and mostly trash guns and chars that basically do the same as the old with very little difference. Maybe they should look to other ideas, but i think its an issue of this being really easy to add compared to other stuff.

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I too think they are useless but it adds to the arsenal so meh.

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"Boring"? That's the worst thing i'd expect to hear. Combination of new skills with the old ones is always a welcomed addition. This gives you the sort of mixes which you couldn't think of but happened and you end up amazed. The Geth Trooper is an example. Sure some characters may have lacked flare but still these sorts of thing want to make you keep playing not quit playing.


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I don't get what's wrong with the mercenary. I mean, just look at it, BLOOD PACK VOLUS!

The only thing I worry about is the spots that these characters take up would mean that they don't necessarily get another character in the same class again. The Asari Adept was an exception due to their profound biotics in my opinion.

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I for one really enjoy the Batarian Brawler, thanks to his biotic charge and blade armor he becomes a nice melee-kit, with whom I've made the majority of the combat challenge melee points. Charge-Falcon-Punch never gets old :) The Krogan-Shaman is a very tanky caster for those who always disliked the squishiness of most casters. Didn't have time to test the Geth Trooper, but have seen him in action quite often and effective at that. So, I don't think the new characters are boring, quite the contrary.

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SWkazashi wrote...

"Boring"? That's the worst thing i'd expect to hear. Combination of new skills with the old ones is always a welcomed addition. This gives you the sort of mixes which you couldn't think of but happened and you end up amazed. The Geth Trooper is an example. Sure some characters may have lacked flare but still these sorts of thing want to make you keep playing not quit playing.


I still don't understand what people are talking about when they say "combination of new skills". It's not like this is Street Fighter where you can use unique supercombos if you combine different skills. Take the Geth Trooper you just mentioned. He has 2 passive powers. Only one active one that already existed before. So you have pretty much just one button to press on this guy.
How is that not boring?
Keep in mind i'm not talking about how weak/strong those characters are, just about the new things they offer... which is pretty much nothing.

#250
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NPlewes wrote...

Very well we will cease unlocking any other characters... muahhaha

Oh be quiet nooby troll. You're a worse troll than any other BioWare employee. It's sad that every BioWare employee is a troll now that EA owns them and the souls that inhabit the bodies that make them a human.