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#201
Yajuu Omoi

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Dachau Joseph wrote...

SirLulzalot wrote...

These characters? Boring?

Get the Hell out of here, OP.


The last 2 character releases would like a word with you


HOW are they boring? Seriously, answer that.

Vorcha Hunter.
Sub Net (now fixed) is AWESOME on its own + bloodlust to spike the damage from it to kill mobs from long range + incinerate to melt the armor.

Volus Merc.
Decoy, take aggro off everyone + Drone, take MORE aggro off while killing things + Shield Boost, heal everyone.

Best team player I've seen yet, last match, was a SSlayer and Volus Merc. Decoy and Drone kept ALL the enemies busy while the Slayer spammed PhD with a constant Shield Boost Spam next to him.
They literally stood out in the open (no cover near by) killing everything on GOLD.

#202
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Yubz wrote...
just get rid of the customization/XP cards, nobody cares about those anyway.

Nope.

The current available pallete is pretty lacking, to be honest. Bioware should be adding more customizations. Get them interesting combos flowing, for science.

#203
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Speak for yourself. I happen to like new variety on existing classes.

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Commander Coriander Salamander

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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

I don't recall saying that people playing for free don't have a right to express their opinion.  I was responsing to this assertion that many people, including yourself, express - "hey it's free, you shouldn't complain."  You don't get it do you?  Complaints are very valuable to companies.  They let them know when a customer is dissatisified.  Consumer dissatisfaction affects purchasing decisions.  This idea that BioWare might not release content if people complain is absurd.  They'll release content as long as they believe there's money to be made.

On the other hand, saying "Golly gee, thanks for the free stuff!" doesn't give you a lot of valuable information, because people will generally express this sentiment anytime they get something for free.  It's the people paying for the content that matter the most.  If they stop paying, BioWare stops putting out content.  It's simple. 

Thank god someone else understands! A bit of my faith in BSN has been restored!

#205
Ravenguild

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Lol get nplewes smashed

#206
mpompeo27

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How dare you hate on the Brawlguard!!! Awesome ****ing character.

#207
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They aren't boring, but they ARE lazy copy paste jobs. I would be a lot happier if they had new skins (or a new voice clip for the Brawler).

#208
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I blame you for the volus being released today.

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SirLulzalot wrote...

Dachau Joseph wrote...

SirLulzalot wrote...

These characters? Boring?

Get the Hell out of here, OP.


The last 2 character releases would like a word with you

The Vorcha is fine.

The Volus, however, I had a word with. He admits he's a steaming pile of crap.


He's not that bad... scored 50k on a silver match with him. Use your drone to do damage, and you don't need to put more than three into decoy. You can both buff allies and damage enemies.

Modifié par CitizenThom, 20 novembre 2012 - 11:09 .


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Yajuu Omoi wrote...

Dachau Joseph wrote...

SirLulzalot wrote...

These characters? Boring?

Get the Hell out of here, OP.


The last 2 character releases would like a word with you


HOW are they boring? Seriously, answer that.

Vorcha Hunter.
Sub Net (now fixed) is AWESOME on its own + bloodlust to spike the damage from it to kill mobs from long range + incinerate to melt the armor.

Volus Merc.
Decoy, take aggro off everyone + Drone, take MORE aggro off while killing things + Shield Boost, heal everyone.

Best team player I've seen yet, last match, was a SSlayer and Volus Merc. Decoy and Drone kept ALL the enemies busy while the Slayer spammed PhD with a constant Shield Boost Spam next to him.
They literally stood out in the open (no cover near by) killing everything on GOLD.


That's actually a brilliant idea. Someone on my friends list had done something similar with Nova and a Volus Engineer... with less aggro, it would be even more effective.

Modifié par CitizenThom, 20 novembre 2012 - 11:09 .


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Eventually, we'd have a class for every race, and then what?
We'd have the equivalent of Justicar adept vs. "normal" asari adept for every race.
And then what? Omega merc group kits?

No seriously Bioware, we NEED that Elcor. Maybe add in the jellyfish too for good measure, I mean who knows, we already have balloons (t)rolling on the battlefield.

Also, Blasto.

Or how bout a overhaul fix for the existing structural problems of the MP?

#212
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Yubz wrote...

Krogan Shaman, Geth Trooper, Vorcha Hunter, Batarian Brawler...


Bioware, please keep flooding me wit these awesome new characters. I have loved all of them so far. Well, I have yet to get on and try the new Volus, but you know what I mean.

Does anyone actually think "Yay, finally I get to customize my appearance some more"?


I do. I want those appearance options more than I want weapons.

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NPlewes wrote...

Very well we will cease unlocking any other characters... muahhaha


This is unfair, you know. Most players are busy in playing in game instead of complaining here.
How about cease unlocking any other characters for those haters? They will be satisfied for at least 30 seconds, that is for sure.

#214
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NPlewes wrote...

Very well we will cease unlocking any other characters... muahhaha


But.. i like new things...

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What an ungrateful little b*tch you are, OP...

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Yubz

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Funny how people keep throwing names at me as if I had insulted their mother.

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Commander Coriander Salamander wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

I don't recall saying that people playing for free don't have a right to express their opinion.  I was responsing to this assertion that many people, including yourself, express - "hey it's free, you shouldn't complain."  You don't get it do you?  Complaints are very valuable to companies.  They let them know when a customer is dissatisified.  Consumer dissatisfaction affects purchasing decisions.  This idea that BioWare might not release content if people complain is absurd.  They'll release content as long as they believe there's money to be made.

On the other hand, saying "Golly gee, thanks for the free stuff!" doesn't give you a lot of valuable information, because people will generally express this sentiment anytime they get something for free.  It's the people paying for the content that matter the most.  If they stop paying, BioWare stops putting out content.  It's simple. 

Thank god someone else understands! A bit of my faith in BSN has been restored!


Dismissing positive feedback as a trivial reaction doesn't make much of any sense.  I like that I got the kits for free.  Yes, free.  Even as someone who has paid for packs in the past, they are free, because I never had to pay for them specifically.  They didn't come out and say 'Thanks for all the $$$ for packs.  Pay us some $$$ for new characters!"  You were charged for packs (without which you still could play the game just fine to its fullest).  You weren't charged for characters.  It comes down to symantics, and that's nothing to base an argument like this on.

As for 'Golly gee' being useless feedback, wrong again.  Negative reactions to products are good, when they're sensible.  Positive reactions to products are good, when they're sensible. 

The classes are a pack, a collection, not so much individual downloads.  I may not like the Volus Sentinel.  If I like the Vorcha, the Turians, the Asari and other classes, I look at it as a gain.  I like having new classes, regardless of skin, and appreciate the effort put into giving us new classes.  That's saying 'Good job, BW, I support this product.  Thank you.'  That's important feedback.  Dismissing it because you feel its based on an illusion of 'free' or as simple 'ass kissing' is a cheap dodge to try and make your point inviolate.

On the counter side, so what if someone who pays for it (again, like me) doesn't like some or all of it?  In this particular case, the OP doesn't like what he's getting so he wants it cut off.  You're free to say 'I don't like this.  Change your policy in the future BW.'  BW listens to that, when it's delivered in a civil manner.  But even if you've invested real $$$ in the game, it doesn't give you more say over anyone else.  If the majority of customers like the additions (by signalling with the above positive feedback), a smaller group that disapproves isn't any more right by virtue of how much $$$ they've spent.

No one is under a false illusion that putting out this stuff costs money, and that said money comes from consumers.  It's a given, not something you should be getting on a soapbox about like you're unveiling the secrent ingredient to Soylent Green.  Regardless of whether or not one of their consumers is partly responsible for said extra income beyond the purchase of the game itself (the only investment you were required to make in order to have grounds for an opinion) doesn't weight his opinion in the slightest.  Those that have said 'It's free, so be quiet' are likely content with the product themselves, more or less.  Assuming people a) don't know where the money comes from and B) are just so simple that anything free they'll like is incredibly pretentious.

$$$ spent on packs is completely irrelevant to the thread.  OP wants stuff changed. The community disagrees, en masse.  End of story.

Modifié par WMcAlister, 20 novembre 2012 - 11:57 .


#218
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My Krodept hungers for the souls of a thousand brutes...

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Bryan Johnson

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Let's face it here:

Are you gonna like every character that gets released? Nope
Is there a character that you are waiting for? Probably
Are you the only person that matters? I think thousands of people would disagree
Does the BSN represent everyone out there? Absolutely not
Are you entitled to your own opinion? Yes
Am I entitled to mine? Yes
Is there people out there that are gonna like the kit this week? Yes
Is there people that will like the next one? Yes
Is there people that will strongly dislike the next one? Yes

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Bryan Johnson wrote...

Let's face it here:

Are you gonna like every character that gets released? Nope
Is there a character that you are waiting for? Probably
Are you the only person that matters? I think thousands of people would disagree
Does the BSN represent everyone out there? Absolutely not
Are you entitled to your own opinion? Yes
Am I entitled to mine? Yes
Is there people out there that are gonna like the kit this week? Yes
Is there people that will like the next one? Yes
Is there people that will strongly dislike the next one? Yes


Pfft, who asked you? :P



...thanks for chiming in.  Please don't ban me for my insolence, oh mighty BW overseer. :lol:

#221
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Bryan Johnson wrote...

Let's face it here:

Are you gonna like every character that gets released? Nope
Is there a character that you are waiting for? Probably
Are you the only person that matters? I think thousands of people would disagree
Does the BSN represent everyone out there? Absolutely not
Are you entitled to your own opinion? Yes
Am I entitled to mine? Yes
Is there people out there that are gonna like the kit this week? Yes
Is there people that will like the next one? Yes
Is there people that will strongly dislike the next one? Yes


Are there people at bioware who know we want more Customizezationz? XD

We vant MOAR GAME MODES!Image IPB

we vant moar NEW POWERS.

NEW MAPS

AND A FIX TO THE BUGS THATS BEEN IN THIS GAME SINCE LAUNCH?

NOW NOW NOW!Image IPB

#222
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I'm gonna have to spray the hate off my computer after viewing this damn thread. More flaming going on in here than in last weekend's Operation Blast Furnace.

#223
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Bryan Johnson wrote...

Let's face it here:

Are you gonna like every character that gets released? Nope
Is there a character that you are waiting for? Probably
Are you the only person that matters? I think thousands of people would disagree
Does the BSN represent everyone out there? Absolutely not
Are you entitled to your own opinion? Yes
Am I entitled to mine? Yes
Is there people out there that are gonna like the kit this week? Yes
Is there people that will like the next one? Yes
Is there people that will strongly dislike the next one? Yes


But Bryan, this is the BSN, where opinion is fact, yes is no, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria, Sydney Briar is alive...wait, what were we talking about again?

#224
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Bryan Johnson wrote...

Let's face it here:

Are you gonna like every character that gets released? Nope
Is there a character that you are waiting for? Probably
Are you the only person that matters? I think thousands of people would disagree
Does the BSN represent everyone out there? Absolutely not
Are you entitled to your own opinion? Yes
Am I entitled to mine? Yes
Is there people out there that are gonna like the kit this week? Yes
Is there people that will like the next one? Yes
Is there people that will strongly dislike the next one? Yes


Is this the end of Bryan's questions? Or will there be more? Find out next time, on Dragonball Z!

#225
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Booo to this thread.

I'm having a blast with each of these new characters, and I look forward to each week's release.