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Why should I play ME4 now that Shep is dead?


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Oakenshield1 wrote...

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Because there's a whole universe of lore out there that's not about Shepard?


some people think the universe revolves around them.


It revolves around the player. That's why bioware had choices to begin with.


Good luck with that.

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ATiBotka wrote...

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ATiBotka wrote...

Oakenshield1 wrote...

Shep is dead and so are my choices


Genophage cure is dead? Quarian - geth peace is dead?

Quarian geth peace is completely invalidated yes.


Why?


Because the ending says they are inherently evil just because they are sentient technology.

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Well, there are trillions of people occupying the known galaxy. Well, a few billion less now that the Reapers have been and gone, but I'm sure there's at least one person who's at least as interesting as Shepard...

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It's going to be a completely new story focusing on a new threat, crisis or problem, probably in another era of the galaxy and definitely with a new protagonist.
It's also going to be developed by another team (who are just as much into the ME universe as other fans).
I say, lets wait and stay open minded.

This plus shep lives in high ems destroy ending weekes confirmed it a while ago

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Oakenshield1 wrote...


Because the ending says they are inherently evil just because they are sentient technology.


The Catalyst said synthetics will wipe out organics. That doesn't mean synthetics are evil. Maybe it's our fault.

And what if the he's wrong? What if you can coexist with synthetics?

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There is choice in Mass Effect, but ultimately, Bioware wrote the story and the choices. The player does not have complete control over what happens in the game. I mean there's lots of choices to pick from, but ultimately you have to deal with what's been programmed into the game.

It's like that with any game. If you wanted a particular type of ending, but it wasn't programmed into the game, then you have to deal with the confines of the game's design.

There's only so much control the player has. I mean there's quite a bit of control they give you, but some people still think this is *their* story, and *their* choices, and *their* character. It's not. The developers ultimately hold the cards since they developed the characters. worlds, sound effects, dialog, etc.

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ATiBotka wrote...

Oakenshield1 wrote...


Because the ending says they are inherently evil just because they are sentient technology.


The Catalyst said synthetics will wipe out organics. That doesn't mean synthetics are evil. Maybe it's our fault.

And what if the he's wrong? What if you can coexist with synthetics?

Don't really get a chance to find out do you? You either use the Reapers or Synthesis to forcibly maintain peace, kill all synthetics, or just die with the rest of the galaxy.

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if that's how they treat they're hero of a trilogy which now devalues any SP dlc then i don't really care for anything ME4 related anyway as for aslong as this bioware & EA are involved then epic rpg gaming it wont be....

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Same reason you played the first Mass Effect.

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because you will be able to do new decisions, with a new character, to reach new consequences, in a new game, with a new story... is that enough?


it's not about being lazy, I doubt ANY game studio would do such a thing like 3 games just to keep going with 3 different timelines. it's easy to dream with that, doing is another story. Plus, it's a stupid idea..

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Good question. Not one I could answer, though.

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 20 novembre 2012 - 05:43 .


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It is not like anyone have forced you to play ME4, right ?

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Because it's a new adventure that is set in an already fleshed out universe?

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Honestly, the treatment of Shepard's story in the end pretty much precludes me buying any future installments.

If you no longer have interest in the franchise, you're not obligated to play.

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LeandroBraz wrote...

because you will be able to do new decisions, with a new character, to reach new consequences, in a new game, with a new story... is that enough?


it's not about being lazy, I doubt ANY game studio would do such a thing like 3 games just to keep going with 3 different timelines. it's easy to dream with that, doing is another story. Plus, it's a stupid idea..



Agreed that they are not lazy.  However, Bioware is the one that boxed themselves into a corner.  The poor ending will require retconning and canonization for a sequel.  Arriving at the poor ending will be pointless if it's a prequel.  Bioware flat-out wrote a bad ending that left them no room to do anything else.  I'm interested to see how they try to squirm out of this. 

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mackan__s wrote...

It is not like anyone have forced you to play ME4, right ?


Actually it is if you ended on the Destroy cliffhanger.

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Yes Sadly I'll probably pass on the next Mass effect game. Like I have on all the DLC.

Yes the ending was that bad to me, and I know it's silly with how much of the game is great but I can't forget about it. I had hoped over time I'd just let it go and not worry about how it ends. It's hard to get emotionally evolved with another mass effect game when the strongest memory I have of the game is dissapointment of the ending.

The Franchise will go on I'm sure, but without me.

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Same reason you'd play DA2 if your Warden is dead. The plots are completely unrelated.

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I don't like the endings either, but come on. There is WAY more to explore in the Mass Effect universe than concerns Shepard & crew. I am happy to go along on the journey with a new protagonist.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

Same reason you'd play DA2 if your Warden is dead. The plots are completely unrelated.


My Warden was still alive but I didn't mind playing as Hawke. Dragon Age isn't a trilogy after all.

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Tootles FTW wrote...

I don't like the endings either, but come on. There is WAY more to explore in the Mass Effect universe than concerns Shepard & crew. I am happy to go along on the journey with a new protagonist.


Which I would be totally on board with if I had any confidence that a "new" journey wouldn't be a trip down disappointment lane.  Bioware has exhausted my goodwill in that regard. 

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Teddie Sage wrote...

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Same reason you'd play DA2 if your Warden is dead. The plots are completely unrelated.


My Warden was still alive but I didn't mind playing as Hawke. Dragon Age isn't a trilogy after all.


Exactly, this particular trilogy about Shepard is over.

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Captain_Obvious wrote...

Tootles FTW wrote...

I don't like the endings either, but come on. There is WAY more to explore in the Mass Effect universe than concerns Shepard & crew. I am happy to go along on the journey with a new protagonist.


Which I would be totally on board with if I had any confidence that a "new" journey wouldn't be a trip down disappointment lane.  Bioware has exhausted my goodwill in that regard. 


Yea, and that's certainly your prerogative.  Game companies have to be careful with their fans as the price of a game is a lot more costly than, say, a movie ticket.  I, however, will give them my money.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...

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Same reason you'd play DA2 if your Warden is dead. The plots are completely unrelated.


My Warden was still alive but I didn't mind playing as Hawke. Dragon Age isn't a trilogy after all.


Exactly, this particular trilogy about Shepard is over.


The writing of his or her death still was poorly handled.

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Tootles FTW wrote...

Captain_Obvious wrote...

Tootles FTW wrote...

I don't like the endings either, but come on. There is WAY more to explore in the Mass Effect universe than concerns Shepard & crew. I am happy to go along on the journey with a new protagonist.


Which I would be totally on board with if I had any confidence that a "new" journey wouldn't be a trip down disappointment lane.  Bioware has exhausted my goodwill in that regard. 


Yea, and that's certainly your prerogative.  Game companies have to be careful with their fans as the price of a game is a lot more costly than, say, a movie ticket.  I, however, will give them my money.


I'm kind of on the same boat. I'm not going to boycott Bioware or anything, but I am going to be cautious about their next few titles, the new DA and ME. I'm just going to sit back and try to gauge the overall reaction to the game in it's first month. I've never really been a big fan of buying on release day. The only games I've done it for was MW3, ME3 and RE6 . I really enjoy 2 out of the 3 (RE6 and ME3) but I know I could've gotten them for much cheaper had I waited a little bit longer.