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[SovereignX6]

  Litterly i dont even know, im kinda suggesting that Mass Effect 3 should be the last one. If there was a Prequel it would kind a be useless since we already know how everything ends, and it feels as if it is going to be rushed or just plain boring. And for the sequel, like honestly, what the hell is more frightening than the Reapers, the reapers are like the biggest threat in the galaxy, so if they were to make a sequel there is suppose to be a threat larger than the reapers? I'm not sure, that would be Meh. 
 
 I want Mass Effect to continue but i also dont. If they are going to make a sequel they dont need to cannonize the endings. 

Control - Reapers rebuild everything, Shepard is in command of the reapers, 100 or so years later, reapers go back to dark space.
Synthesis - Reapers and organics rebuild everything, Shepard dead. 100 years later green stuff wears off and reapers head back into dark space.
Destroy - Reapers are dead, Shepard is more memmorized, organics rebuild everything.

No need to cannon anything but the MAIN problem is...who's the antagonist? Thats the one thing i see from Bioware making a sequel, they need a antagonist. 

For a prequel, i would be less excited and proabley more boerd. But i do prefer a sequel over a prequel. Or it can just stay the same and end off like this, that would be fine too, for me.

Edit one: I'm kinda starting to think that leaving mass effect now is the right choice and maybe coming back to it in a couple of years would good, but im 99% sure that won't happen. It's either gonna be a prequel or a sequel, which may mess everything up even more. 

Modifié par SovereignX6, 21 novembre 2012 - 04:18 .

[Malanek]

SovereignX6 wrote...
Control - Reapers rebuild everything, Shepard is in command of the reapers, 100 or so years later, reapers go back to dark space.
Synthesis - Reapers and organics rebuild everything, Shepard dead. 100 years later green stuff wears off and reapers head back into dark space.
Destroy - Reapers are dead, Shepard is more memmorized, organics rebuild everything.

No need to cannon anything but the MAIN problem is...who's the antagonist? Thats the one thing i see from Bioware making a sequel, they need a antagonist. 

What is the point of reducing the differences of decisions and consequences to nothing to simply avoid cannonising things? If you are going to carry through the players choices they have to have meaning.


...oh, and Sequel.

[LucasShark]

Both are bad for different reasons:

The prequel means that it will occur within 19 years where Humans are involved in galactic affairs, and the most important things which happened in there were the first contact war (a skirmish), and pirate raids. That, or they'll just outright revamp that time period to fill it with more action and therefore retroactively screw up the events of MEs 1-3.

The sequel means building upon the absolute rubbish of the crucible, and somehow sorting a universe out of the 3 flavours of impossible we got for endings.

[Stella-Arc]

Sequel

[H-Hammer]

First Contact war. So prequel.

[LucasShark]

H-Hammer wrote...

First Contact war. So prequel.

You do realize that game would consist of about... 1 or 2 missions?  It isn't even classified as a war from the Turian side.

[Hey]

To me the problem isn't that a prequel means we already know the big reaveal - it's more about is there really an event worthy of a 30 + hour Bioware game in there?

[LucasShark]

Festae9 wrote...

To me the problem isn't that a prequel means we already know the big reaveal - it's more about is there really an event worthy of a 30 + hour Bioware game in there?

The Blitz maybe: but that'd still be pushing it and be mostly restricted to one planet.

[Malanek]

Festae9 wrote...
To me the problem isn't that a prequel means we already know the big reaveal - it's more about is there really an event worthy of a 30 + hour Bioware game in there?

You could tell a more intimate story that doesn't relate to a noteworthy galaxy wide event. But do they really want to do this when what happens next to the galaxy is already set up to be so interesting. 

[Hey]

LucasShark wrote...

Festae9 wrote...

To me the problem isn't that a prequel means we already know the big reaveal - it's more about is there really an event worthy of a 30 + hour Bioware game in there?

The Blitz maybe: but that'd still be pushing it and be mostly restricted to one planet.

True.  Still, not a ton of meat there.  Maybe good for a phone app or something.. 

[RustyMcBlade]

Sequel. In ME1 the galaxy didnt really know much about the humans and a big part of the story was about humans gaining respect of the galatic community. The future is the way to go. A prequel sounds boring as hell...

First contact war sucks btw

[Hey]

Malanek999 wrote...

Festae9 wrote...
To me the problem isn't that a prequel means we already know the big reaveal - it's more about is there really an event worthy of a 30 + hour Bioware game in there?

You could tell a more intimate story that doesn't relate to a noteworthy galaxy wide event. But do they really want to do this when what happens next to the galaxy is already set up to be so interesting. 

This is true.  More akin to DA2.  It's possible I guess.

[Falcon084]

After! it is the only way the ending would make sence to me!
I always liked the ending to ME3 because Ii believed that it was going to be a major buildup to Mass Effect 4, but if it goes into prequel territory I'll feel cheatedof all the answers I so desperatly want!

EDIT: http://social.biowar...50/polls/41805/

Modifié par Falcon084, 21 novembre 2012 - 04:17 .

[LucasShark]

Falcon084 wrote...

After! it is the only way the ending would make sence to me!
I always liked the ending to ME3 because Ii believed that it was going to be a major buildup to Mass Effect 4, but if it goes into prequel territory I'll feel cheatedof all the answers I so desperatly want!

You do realize that the simple fact they are taking a vote like this means that those answers weren't planned and don't exist right?

[Malanek]

Festae9 wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

Festae9 wrote...
To me the problem isn't that a prequel means we already know the big reaveal - it's more about is there really an event worthy of a 30 + hour Bioware game in there?

You could tell a more intimate story that doesn't relate to a noteworthy galaxy wide event. But do they really want to do this when what happens next to the galaxy is already set up to be so interesting. 

This is true.  More akin to DA2.  It's possible I guess.

Sort of although I tend to think the ending to DA2 was probably a bit more of a big deal than they would have to aim for. In the hundred or so years that humans had been part of the galactic civilisation, to have something that significant not mentioned anywhere would seem a bit odd. So I was thinking something more personal (like the establishment of a colony world) or something secret that got hushed up like Cerberus breaking away from the Alliance.

But again, I don't think that is a very good idea, it's just how I would go about it if someone else made the decision to go down that route.

[Falcon084]

LucasShark wrote...

Falcon084 wrote...

After! it is the only way the ending would make sence to me!
I always liked the ending to ME3 because Ii believed that it was going to be a major buildup to Mass Effect 4, but if it goes into prequel territory I'll feel cheatedof all the answers I so desperatly want!

You do realize that the simple fact they are taking a vote like this means that those answers weren't planned and don't exist right?

I do now, but back then I didn't. That said don't you want answers?

[ZeCollectorDestroya]

Your plot idea for Synthesis requires even more space magic, it can't just wear off. Needs another solution. Control and Destroy works though.

[LucasShark]

Falcon084 wrote...

LucasShark wrote...

Falcon084 wrote...

After! it is the only way the ending would make sence to me!
I always liked the ending to ME3 because Ii believed that it was going to be a major buildup to Mass Effect 4, but if it goes into prequel territory I'll feel cheatedof all the answers I so desperatly want!

You do realize that the simple fact they are taking a vote like this means that those answers weren't planned and don't exist right?

I do now, but back then I didn't. That said don't you want answers?

Not really: I'd rather they just outright remove the entire stupid crucible plot since it is unsalvagable in my eyes and just go with the whole IT theory idea: I mean removing things is how they adressed previous complaints.  I'd rather have the illusion someone is driving this runaway train of a franchise than take fake answers to impossible questions.  Impossible questions like: how can an energy wave both analyze what it passes over and alter it whilst simaltainously spreading exponentially?  And how can that same wave not distinguish between reaper AI and every other kind?

And so on.

[Hey]

Malanek999 wrote...

Festae9 wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

Festae9 wrote...
To me the problem isn't that a prequel means we already know the big reaveal - it's more about is there really an event worthy of a 30 + hour Bioware game in there?

You could tell a more intimate story that doesn't relate to a noteworthy galaxy wide event. But do they really want to do this when what happens next to the galaxy is already set up to be so interesting. 

This is true.  More akin to DA2.  It's possible I guess.

Sort of although I tend to think the ending to DA2 was probably a bit more of a big deal than they would have to aim for. In the hundred or so years that humans had been part of the galactic civilisation, to have something that significant not mentioned anywhere would seem a bit odd. So I was thinking something more personal (like the establishment of a colony world) or something secret that got hushed up like Cerberus breaking away from the Alliance.

But again, I don't think that is a very good idea, it's just how I would go about it if someone else made the decision to go down that route.

Could be interesting, actually.  Maybe change the format to a bit more decision making RPG while they are at it.  Less clearing out corridors more decision making to branching outcomes? And of course the great characters. 

[LucasShark]

Festae9 wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

Festae9 wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

Festae9 wrote...
To me the problem isn't that a prequel means we already know the big reaveal - it's more about is there really an event worthy of a 30 + hour Bioware game in there?

You could tell a more intimate story that doesn't relate to a noteworthy galaxy wide event. But do they really want to do this when what happens next to the galaxy is already set up to be so interesting. 

This is true.  More akin to DA2.  It's possible I guess.

Sort of although I tend to think the ending to DA2 was probably a bit more of a big deal than they would have to aim for. In the hundred or so years that humans had been part of the galactic civilisation, to have something that significant not mentioned anywhere would seem a bit odd. So I was thinking something more personal (like the establishment of a colony world) or something secret that got hushed up like Cerberus breaking away from the Alliance.

But again, I don't think that is a very good idea, it's just how I would go about it if someone else made the decision to go down that route.

Could be interesting, actually.  Maybe change the format to a bit more decision making RPG while they are at it.  Less clearing out corridors more decision making to branching outcomes? And of course the great characters. 

I proposed the idea of a mid-quel "Citadel detective story" a while back, that could be rather neat.

[Hey]

LucasShark wrote...

Festae9 wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

Festae9 wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

Festae9 wrote...
To me the problem isn't that a prequel means we already know the big reaveal - it's more about is there really an event worthy of a 30 + hour Bioware game in there?

You could tell a more intimate story that doesn't relate to a noteworthy galaxy wide event. But do they really want to do this when what happens next to the galaxy is already set up to be so interesting. 

This is true.  More akin to DA2.  It's possible I guess.

Sort of although I tend to think the ending to DA2 was probably a bit more of a big deal than they would have to aim for. In the hundred or so years that humans had been part of the galactic civilisation, to have something that significant not mentioned anywhere would seem a bit odd. So I was thinking something more personal (like the establishment of a colony world) or something secret that got hushed up like Cerberus breaking away from the Alliance.

But again, I don't think that is a very good idea, it's just how I would go about it if someone else made the decision to go down that route.

Could be interesting, actually.  Maybe change the format to a bit more decision making RPG while they are at it.  Less clearing out corridors more decision making to branching outcomes? And of course the great characters. 

I proposed the idea of a mid-quel "Citadel detective story" a while back, that could be rather neat.

seriously man!  I think it could be great 

[Christianswe]

Make mass effect 4 a sequel. In My opinion, it would be pointless to make ME4 a prequel. The series doesn't have to end after ME3. Sure the reaper threat is gone, But that doesn't mean that all the races of the ME universe are going to hold hands and sing cumbaya forever, and no problem ever arises again.... And the reapers don't make Mass Effect, Mass Effect. It's the rich worlds, the races and the cultures. The dialog choices, the great story.

And since Shepard won't be in ME 4, it will probaly have a somewhat new focus. It doesn't have to be reapers, all the odds and Doom and gloom. That worked in Shepard's story, ME, ME 2 and ME 3. But just because the trilogy ends the way it does, doesn't mean there can't be new stories after those events. I would be great to be able to see the legacy, the inplact on the galaxy, after Shepard's choices. Even if ME 4 takes place 100 years after ME3. You could have references of previous events and the characters. Hell maybe Liara makes a cameo, since the Asari reach 1000. And she tells the new group about the battlefield, Shepard and the rebuilding after the reaper war.

And also, the galaxy is a Big place, many of the mass relays may be unexplored, many new planets.
Im no writer, but my point is that they could make new stories after ME3, a new situation, and it would feel good. And not like a stretch. The past of mass effect is so well documented, in the games logbook, novels and books. It feels like you know what you need to know about the history of the ME universe. I think people want to know what happens next in the timeline.
Trough different eyes. Prequels are alomst never good, and it wouldn't feel the same.
But i guess well see. But i strongly hope That mass effect 4 is a sequel.

[serialkicker]

SovereignX6 wrote...
And for the sequel, like honestly, what the hell is more frightening than the Reapers, the reapers are like the biggest threat in the galaxy, so if they were to make a sequel there is suppose to be a threat larger than the reapers?
 

Who's to say there must be a bigger threat then the reapers? Even if something half as threatening as reapers shows up it's good enough for me. But that's just me, as i'm not so hardcore nitpicking player, i just want good story that makes sense. Oh, and sequel for sure!

Modifié par serialkicker, 20 décembre 2012 - 01:00 .

[Slashice]

Sequel. But with those 3 ending it's game technically impossible. Also writing a novel is impossible, because you need to canonize the story, but how? Or you write a red, blue and green novel for a sequel? That's my biggest problem with those endings. Mac Walters destroyed the ME universe with these endings. Something similar to DA:O's ending would be awesome: Kill the arch-daemon and the rest of his puppets will go back where they came from but some will keep fighting, etc. Same here: Kill Harbinger and the rest of the Reapers either go back to dark space or continue fighting, or just messing around the galaxy... or some might even join the organics.

[The Spamming Troll]

i think itll be a whocaresquel.