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#76
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capn233 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Learn to read capm

I can read apparently better than you can spell.

There was no point to this thread, except to show off.  Which is why you gave it a 13 yr old xbox player like title.


The dude doesn't know when to quit. I noticed how annoying he was from the get go. I remember one time he compared himself to Gandhi and me to Hitler. That's how childish and pointless this guy is. Also, there is no point in arguing with the guy. Thinking he's all badass because he scored 200,000+ points in a Horde game.

WATCH OUT GUYS! WE HAVE A BROCK SAMSON HERE!!!!

Gimme a break, slugger.

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capn233 wrote...

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The point was to show people a unconventional build and how good it can really be. Personally I love getting wierd build  advice from friends and form the forums to try so i figured i'd share one.

The combination isn't that great, and doesn't really have a lot of synergy.

Kishock is a good weapon with weird mechanics, so it will never be mainstream.  Maybe if the thread was "Hey, Kischock is better than I remembered" you wouldn't catch so much flak.  I don't think it is any better than Reegar, Harrier, or Wraith on a T Sent who is using Incendiary ammo.


The wraith is probably my overall favortie weapon in the game. I cna never think of a reason to not use it. Its aweosme on any build.

with that said the kishock does provide some positives your other examples dont
Harrier? suffers from ammo issues
Reegar? no distance. I can use the harpoon like an up close shotgun or snipe across the map
Wraith? harpoon does more damage per shot and reloads fats enough that you can fire 4 shots quicker then you can a wraith

and as far as the name goes it was a joke which i clearly stated in the original post.

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chipsandwich wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Invader Nemesis wrote...

capn233 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Learn to read capm

I can read apparently better than you can spell.

There was no point to this thread, except to show off.  Which is why you gave it a 13 yr old xbox player like title.


Oh wow so much hate.


Thats what i get for being a bronze spawn nuking scrub :crying:
Plase comfort me with your bosom :wub:


Take screenshots


screenshot all bosom comforting!

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upinya slayin

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CNevarezN wrote...

capn233 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Learn to read capm

I can read apparently better than you can spell.

There was no point to this thread, except to show off.  Which is why you gave it a 13 yr old xbox player like title.


The dude doesn't know when to quit. I noticed how annoying he was from the get go. I remember one time he compared himself to Gandhi and me to Hitler. That's how childish and pointless this guy is. Also, there is no point in arguing with the guy. Thinking he's all badass because he scored 200,000+ points in a Horde game.

WATCH OUT GUYS! WE HAVE A BROCK SAMSON HERE!!!!

Gimme a break, slugger.


Lol i never said i was bad ass. you on the otherhand are just a DB (not in a kdding way) I dind't even remember you existed until you made this post. Then i remembered you, being a DB.

Once again if you don't like my thread, don't post in it. there are plenty of other threads to post in.

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upinya slayin wrote...

The wraith is probably my overall favortie weapon in the game. I cna never think of a reason to not use it. Its aweosme on any build.

with that said the kishock does provide some positives your other examples dont
Harrier? suffers from ammo issues
Reegar? no distance. I can use the harpoon like an up close shotgun or snipe across the map
Wraith? harpoon does more damage per shot and reloads fats enough that you can fire 4 shots quicker then you can a wraith

and as far as the name goes it was a joke which i clearly stated in the original post.

You are right, every weapon has some advantages and disadvantages, but some of those are fairly easily mitigated.  The more important thing though is that each of those is at least as good at stacking incendiary DOT as the Kishock... Reegar and Harrier are superior.

Harrier's ammo issues aren't a huge problem, especially below Platinum where ammo boxes have decent clip payouts.  It is hitscan so it doesn't suffer from lag, it doesn't have a charge dependent trajectory, and it has high DPS in base mode.

Reegar is the king of incendiary DOT stacking.  And as a Turian Sentinel you should have enough durability to mix it up close if you really want to do that.  The only problem is that mobility isn't all that great.

Wraith is much easier for shoot cast shoot.  In fact it has nearly a perfect ROF for the cooldown on the sentinel.  And it does have better DPS than the Kishock.

For basics, Kishock and Incendiary largely doesn't matter since you can oneshot most lower tier units with it anyway.  There is no lighting on fire and panicking because they are dead.  For the large targets, since you aren't exploiting Incendairy as effectively, I would bet Warp IV would be at least as competitive.

And I don't want to get back to what you actually said in the first post, because it reminded me too much of this:

"Yeah, that's me taking the bull by the horns.  It's how I handle business.  It's a metaphor."
"I get it."
"But that actually happened, though."

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Can someone explain how using warp + incendiary ammo is an exploit when both are simply doing what they were designed to do?

Anyway, thanks for the tip. I'm slowly plugging away at sniper rifle challenges so I might give this a whirl with the Kishock. It'll be a good one to use for this weekend's challenge.

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capn233 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

The wraith is probably my overall favortie weapon in the game. I cna never think of a reason to not use it. Its aweosme on any build.

with that said the kishock does provide some positives your other examples dont
Harrier? suffers from ammo issues
Reegar? no distance. I can use the harpoon like an up close shotgun or snipe across the map
Wraith? harpoon does more damage per shot and reloads fats enough that you can fire 4 shots quicker then you can a wraith

and as far as the name goes it was a joke which i clearly stated in the original post.

You are right, every weapon has some advantages and disadvantages, but some of those are fairly easily mitigated.  The more important thing though is that each of those is at least as good at stacking incendiary DOT as the Kishock... Reegar and Harrier are superior.

Harrier's ammo issues aren't a huge problem, especially below Platinum where ammo boxes have decent clip payouts.  It is hitscan so it doesn't suffer from lag, it doesn't have a charge dependent trajectory, and it has high DPS in base mode.

Reegar is the king of incendiary DOT stacking.  And as a Turian Sentinel you should have enough durability to mix it up close if you really want to do that.  The only problem is that mobility isn't all that great.

Wraith is much easier for shoot cast shoot.  In fact it has nearly a perfect ROF for the cooldown on the sentinel.  And it does have better DPS than the Kishock.

For basics, Kishock and Incendiary largely doesn't matter since you can oneshot most lower tier units with it anyway.  There is no lighting on fire and panicking because they are dead.  For the large targets, since you aren't exploiting Incendairy as effectively, I would bet Warp IV would be at least as competitive.

And I don't want to get back to what you actually said in the first post, because it reminded me too much of this:

"Yeah, that's me taking the bull by the horns.  It's how I handle business.  It's a metaphor."
"I get it."
"But that actually happened, though."


I'll leave off the last part and i'll respond to your comments about teh actual build.

1st off, are the harrier, reegar, and wraith better overall weapons then the harpoon? absolutly. I agree with that, but I liek variety and finding different ways to use different things. As i satted before the wraith is a perfect weapon on every kit. the harrier kinda is too. The reegar has limitations but is extremly powerfull on most kits as well. all 3 guns are easier to aim then the harpoon gun as well too. You could also make a case for the hurricane and talon being better options then the 3 you listed as well. Its not about taking the bets possible combo for me

Also i like the idea of a triple stack DOT warp, harpoon, and Inc all do DOT. The harpoon is the only gun that does DOT in the game hence the only way to triple stack DOT. that alone makes this combo very unique.

This combo also allowed me to get medals for 50 SR kills, 25 tech kills, and 25 biotic kills. That means it all balanced. warp got kills for all the DOT deaths and the few impact kills i got with it, harpoon got only impact shot kills and tech kills came from FEs It was a very balanced game IMO

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ryoldschool wrote...

will you use any excuse to post your match scores? It would be refreshing if you posted a thread and you did not include a screenshot of your final score in a match.


Yeah, how could upinya try and back up what he is saying with evidence.  What a dick upinya is.

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played with two volus and used incindiary+warp? impressive

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Awesome! This build looks fun, Imma try it tonight! Thanks OP!

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Invader Nemesis wrote...

Why don't you rename this thread "Elitist DB shows off his mad skills with Harpoon gun." lol.


Elitist? He did not even get the 20 headshots medal...

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Nope2.1 wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

will you use any excuse to post your match scores? It would be refreshing if you posted a thread and you did not include a screenshot of your final score in a match.


Yeah, how could upinya try and back up what he is saying with evidence.  What a dick upinya is.


lol i know right

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metaempiricist wrote...

played with two volus and used incindiary+warp? impressive


one volus using a harrier V i believe and the other sentinal in 2nd using a harrier 7.

I'm sorry but i'll take a volus with a harrier over a sentinal with a harpoon gun anyday if your going on ability to deal damage

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I think this where i accuse you of being an elitist that wants to show his e-peen.

You're an elitist that just wants to show his e-peen.

E-peeeeeeeen. I like that word. Reminds me of penis.

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32 min, Reaper/Gold? What were you guys doing?!

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100RenegadePoints wrote...

Invader Nemesis wrote...

Why don't you rename this thread "Elitist DB shows off his mad skills with Harpoon gun." lol.


Elitist? He did not even get the 20 headshots medal...


Lol wasn't really aiming. its a waste of time to try and headhsot things i can kill with a body shot. All my headshots were on bosses pretty much. I used it as a combo shotgun/sniper depending on the situation.

If you wanth my vids i always get the 20 headshot medal. usually by wave 3-4

Modifié par upinya slayin, 21 novembre 2012 - 09:13 .


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Happy Shepard wrote...

I think this where i accuse you of being an elitist that wants to show his e-peen.

You're an elitist that just wants to show his e-peen.

E-peeeeeeeen. I like that word. Reminds me of penis.


+1

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llandwynwyn wrote...

32 min, Reaper/Gold? What were you guys doing?!


Lol get over times. I was playing a relaxing game. I'm not gonna do really fast runs all the time.

But i have before


Even on Condor


Not even speed running
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9ecTfZqhPs&feature=plcp

and on platinum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_sdNpUE5Yw&feature=plcp

So get over the time thing. 

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I know you're a good player, US, have watched your videos before but...

upinya slayin wrote...

I was playing a relaxing game. I'm not gonna do really fast runs all the time.


To pass 30 min (on gold) is not a relaxing game for me. When it happens with pugs it's because something went wrong.

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The last guy did really well for a level 1 volus adept with phaeston lol.:lol:

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Your threads are always hilarious for all the wrong reasons.

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You have to be the most thin skinned dude ever. "durr I didebt't even ttry for headshoots BUT I DO EVERY OTHER TIME"

" I was playeing a relaxxing game, BUT I FINISH IN ELEVEN MINUTES EVERY OTHER TIME"

If you're going to post db threads as an excuse to show off a score then own it instead of trying to act like a zen master who still feels the need to defend every single minor criticism that comes up.

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llandwynwyn wrote...

I know you're a good player, US, have watched your videos before but...

upinya slayin wrote...

I was playing a relaxing game. I'm not gonna do really fast runs all the time.


To pass 30 min (on gold) is not a relaxing game for me. When it happens with pugs it's because something went wrong.


Not really. I mean if you look at the revive medals i have 1 for 10 and someone else has 1 for 5. thats not that bad if you think about. Then half the team were a volus which aren't big DD classes (one did have a harrier) i was a TS with a harpoon gun. only 1 person was really up to deal damage with a harrier 7 (2nd place) and he wa sonyl a level 12. we were all playing for challenges lol

Also its dagger sandstorm, the harpoon gun couldn't shoot form teh sniper nest as it kept clipping the wall. and plsu the visibility sucks and its a decent sized map with no line of sight cause the hazard so i was constantly running circles around the map. Also didn't use missles and dind't rocket spawns and nobody had grenades for spawns either. it was a chill game IMO :whistle:

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Caratinoid wrote...

The last guy did really well for a level 1 volus adept with phaeston lol.:lol:


He did do really well for that layout actually. i've seen randoms with harrier 10s on level 20 GIs taht did worse

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Ashen Earth wrote...

Your threads are always hilarious for all the wrong reasons.


tell me about it. I think i passed you for most hated on the forums now lol