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[sympathy4sarenreturns]

It's very, very unlikely I will purchase this game. No seriously. Day one dlc, Origin, lack of effort in detail, lies told to players in ME3 by devs and a bad DA2 have given me very little care for this game. However, I loved Skyrim, so if all of the dlc and Origin shenanigans are missing and the game is a lot like Skyrim in many facets, I might be interested. I'm keeping an open mind. So please just have a copy of Skyrim handy apply a lot of the same stuff. Thanks!

[Aynien]

If you want a copy of Skyrim, why not play it instead?

[Plaintiff]

Yes, Bioware, please make a boring game with a cliche plot that doesn't deviate significantly from your previous works in the series, and cardboard-thin characters. Then top it off by creating expansions that a significant portion of your customers cannot access.

[Boss Fog]

sympathy4sarenreturns wrote...

It's very, very unlikely I will purchase this game. No seriously. Day one dlc, Origin, lack of effort in detail, lies told to players in ME3 by devs and a bad DA2 have given me very little care for this game. However, I loved Skyrim, so if all of the dlc and Origin shenanigans are missing and the game is a lot like Skyrim in many facets, I might be interested. I'm keeping an open mind. So please just have a copy of Skyrim handy apply a lot of the same stuff. Thanks!

How about no?  Skyrim betrayed so many features that were present in past TES games it was ridiculous.  People who's first game of the TES series was Skyrim really need to go back and play Daggerfall and Morrowind so they can realize how much depth was abandoned.  It makes the transition between DA2 and DA:O actually not so bad.

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

[jstme]

I also loved Skyrim but it is very different game. Storywise it is just as behind Dragon Age as DA is behind Skyrim in explorability and variety of locations.
DA3 should be like DA , but with Skyrim development time and then it would be just as awesome to play as Skyrim - only different.

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

sympathy4sarenreturns wrote...

It's very, very unlikely I will purchase this game. No seriously. Day one dlc, Origin, lack of effort in detail, lies told to players in ME3 by devs and a bad DA2 have given me very little care for this game. However, I loved Skyrim, so if all of the dlc and Origin shenanigans are missing and the game is a lot like Skyrim in many facets, I might be interested. I'm keeping an open mind. So please just have a copy of Skyrim handy apply a lot of the same stuff. Thanks!

Let me elaborate even further on my last post by saying,

AGAIN

Modifié par The Teryn of Whatever, 22 novembre 2012 - 04:04 .

[TheInquisitor]

Skyrims story was really not that good. The gameplay was good though. DA3 should be more like DA:Origins not SKYRIM.

[PsychoBlonde]

TelvanniWarlord wrote...
People who's first game of the TES series was Skyrim really need to go back and play Daggerfall . . .

DAGGERFALL?  Daggerfall didn't have "depth".  It had repetitive procedural content out the yin-yang.

Also a crappy interface.  It was an interesing effort but could become practically unplayable.

[Bfler]

Plaintiff wrote...

Yes, Bioware, please make a boring game with a cliche plot that doesn't deviate significantly from your previous works in the series, and cardboard-thin characters. Then top it off by creating expansions that a significant portion of your customers cannot access.

Your problem, if you play on console and not PC. There is enough user created stuff available, which improves the game.

[Sidney]

Skyrim- world of warcraft for people who don't want to have to even engage with people over the internet.

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

Bfler wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Yes, Bioware, please make a boring game with a cliche plot that doesn't deviate significantly from your previous works in the series, and cardboard-thin characters. Then top it off by creating expansions that a significant portion of your customers cannot access.

Your problem, if you play on console and not PC. There is enough user created stuff available, which improves the game.

How do mods even begin to adress the cliced plot and cardboard-thin characters? The ending to the main plot was lazy. Say what you will about ME 3's ending, but at least the writers were trying.

[Sejborg]

This would be another reason not to buy DA3.

[Helena Tylena]

In order to make a game like Skyrim even possible, you'd have to sacrifice a lot of what makes a game like Dragon Age great. Assuming the same budget, the more open your world is, the less depth it has. I have played Skyrim, and have found it to be quite empty, whereas the more controlled environments of Dragon Age allowed for so much more depth.
I'd rather have the game be more like Origins, and much less like Skyrim, to be honest.

[Harle Cerulean]

No thanks. I like Skyrim, but I like it for entirely different reasons than I like the Dragon Age games. I play Dragon Age for the characters and story. Much as I'd love, for example, a selection of races - no, "like Skyrim" is not the way to go for this series.

Let Elder Scrolls be Elder Scrolls and Dragon Age be Dragon Age, yeesh.

[Helena Tylena]

TristanHawke wrote...

Skyrims story was really not that good. The gameplay was good though. DA3 should be more like DA:Origins not SKYRIM.

Skyrim's gameplay was actually really quite terrible.
The crafting was a copy/paste of just about every other game that had crafting, the combat was archaic at best (apart from dual weilding, did they change *anything* from previous TES games?), the dialogue was so boring... I could go on.

[Bfler]

The Teryn of Whatever wrote...

Bfler wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Yes, Bioware, please make a boring game with a cliche plot that doesn't deviate significantly from your previous works in the series, and cardboard-thin characters. Then top it off by creating expansions that a significant portion of your customers cannot access.

Your problem, if you play on console and not PC. There is enough user created stuff available, which improves the game.

How do mods even begin to adress the cliced plot and cardboard-thin characters? The ending to the main plot was lazy. Say what you will about ME 3's ending, but at least the writers were trying.

Maybe not the main quest, but they include new appealing quests, chars and stories. 
And at least we can defeat the bad guy (and know him before the last five minutes of the game) in the main quest of Skyrim.

Modifié par Bfler, 22 novembre 2012 - 04:16 .

[Boss Fog]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

TelvanniWarlord wrote...
People who's first game of the TES series was Skyrim really need to go back and play Daggerfall . . .

DAGGERFALL?  Daggerfall didn't have "depth".  It had repetitive procedural content out the yin-yang.

Also a crappy interface.  It was an interesing effort but could become practically unplayable.

So a game lacks depth because of the fact that the side quests were reskinned versions of one another?  Perhaps that particular feature didn't have depth, but everything else pretty much did.  The amount of gameplay, character creation options (and no I'm not just talking about customizing your face, CC used to actually mean alot more than that) gives Daggerfall 100x more depth than what is the collection of scripted events that almost feels like a stage play at times with the way it's set up of Skyrim.  They removed entire magicka schools, spell creation, weapon types, conversation options, and made the combat so dim witted my grandma could understand it.  

Only the modding community can motivate me to replay Skyrim and even then, I get so bored with the game nowadays I turn it off as quickly as I turn it on.

Modifié par TelvanniWarlord, 22 novembre 2012 - 04:16 .

[CaribWarrior J]

NO! I borowed Skyrim and got bored out of my skull in 45 minutes. Never!

[Plaintiff]

Bfler wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Yes, Bioware, please make a boring game with a cliche plot that doesn't deviate significantly from your previous works in the series, and cardboard-thin characters. Then top it off by creating expansions that a significant portion of your customers cannot access.

Your problem, if you play on console and not PC. There is enough user created stuff available, which improves the game.

Oh look, it's another one of the PC eltists, come to shame me for my personal choice in entertainment systems. You know, I don't go around crowing over the fact that PC's gaming library is pathetically scant.

Even if I had access to mods, I wouldn't use them. It is not my responsibility to fix a terrible game.

[GodWood]

Skyrim sucked. Fallout: New Vegas is a much better open-world RPG.

[bluebeam]

The Teryn of Whatever wrote...

That would be my nightmare. Skyrim gets boring after a couple hours of gameplay and the combat system is an abomination. I hope BW will come up with their own ideas to create a good game.

[Bfler]

Plaintiff wrote...

Bfler wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Yes, Bioware, please make a boring game with a cliche plot that doesn't deviate significantly from your previous works in the series, and cardboard-thin characters. Then top it off by creating expansions that a significant portion of your customers cannot access.

Your problem, if you play on console and not PC. There is enough user created stuff available, which improves the game.

Oh look, it's another one of the PC eltists, come to shame me for my personal choice in entertainment systems. You know, I don't go around crowing over the fact that PC's gaming library is pathetically scant.

Even if I had access to mods, I wouldn't use them. It is not my responsibility to fix a terrible game.

Then don't complain about the game. It is common that TES games unfold their true potential with mods.

[frostajulie]

Plaintiff wrote...

Yes, Bioware, please make a boring game with a cliche plot that doesn't deviate significantly from your previous works in the series, and cardboard-thin characters. Then top it off by creating expansions that a significant portion of your customers cannot access.

God I love it when someone else says what I want to say but says it so much more eloquently and then I can quote it like the lazy schmo I am without having to put any effort into my response.

QFT.