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[DSxCallOfBooty-]

Ashen Earth wrote...

The Scorpion is a utility weapon, and is actually the best at what it does.

If you're expecting it to perform in the same way as a Piranha or Reegar Carbine you're going to be very disappointed.

This.  For AOE damage it's one of the best weapons in the game. (apparently; I happen not to have one)

It's an excellent sidearm choice, with ULM it's a great complement to weapons that do a lot of damage to single targets, like the Javelin.

[d_nought]

It's pretty awesome, but I don't use it enough cuz I'm a noob.

[IllusiveManJr]

It's great crowd control and in the right hands can decimate spawns or very large groups of enemies.

[etm125]

Xaijin wrote...

If you don't understand why it's amazing, you're not going to. It's the second best utility weapon in the entire game after the GPS.

Forget utility. I think the GPS is overall the best gun in the game. Can take out long range, middle range, short range targets. It staggers. It hitscan homes. It is lightweight enough that power classes can still use it. It requires no shredder or smart choke. It has a 5 shot clip. With ammo mod it has 52 shots. You can hold a charge and do lots of other stuff like dodge or use a power. It ignores armor. It does great damage. It trolls phantoms. 

Its only downside is that shots can just disappear on a laggy connection. Good conn or on host I thinks its the best gun in the game.


.......sorry for the sidetrack.

Modifié par etm125, 23 novembre 2012 - 05:33 .

[DJ Airsurfer]

Acolyte > Scorpion

[LeandroBraz]

VaultingFrog wrote...

Captain J. Sunshine wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

The Scorpion is a utility weapon, and is actually the best at what it does.

If you're expecting it to perform in the same way as a Piranha or Reegar Carbine you're going to be very disappointed.

how do you utilize it?

As far as I understand it (correct me if I am wrong) but you dont aim to hit the target directly. Instead you spam it infront of them so they walk right over them and blow up. More reliable damage that way and plenty of CC when you need it.

Actually people shoot the ground because it explode instantaneously when you do it. On enemies it take a time, which is actually a good thing, you can time the explosion to hit enemies that are coming, and when you shoot a enemy, it get stunned. It's a extremely effective weapon, and fun to play.. Try it on a salarian engineer, it have an awesome sinergy with decoy...

[LeandroBraz]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Captain J. Sunshine wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

The Scorpion is a utility weapon, and is actually the best at what it does.

If you're expecting it to perform in the same way as a Piranha or Reegar Carbine you're going to be very disappointed.

how do you utilize it?

Point and shoot at clusters of enemies as you would with any explosive weapon, obviously.

If you hit an enemy with a projectile, that enemy gets stunned. When it explodes, that enemy gets stunned again. If you hit the enemy with the mine, it's ammo effect is applied 100% of the time. (Protip: Explosive rounds also stun enemies) If you aim at the ground, the explosive will act as a proximity mine that is triggered by nearby enemy movement. It makes a joke of Phantoms, Hunters, Collector Captains, ect... but if you see armored enemies then that's when you switch to your other weapon.

It's pretty damn good on it's own because it turns any class carrying it into a CC machine, but if you use it with other CC abilities like Sentry Turret, Arc Grenade. Overload, ect.. you should be wiping out spawns, and singlehandedly defending objectives (hack/upload, escort)

Exactly, well explained..

[Black Phantom]

DJ Airsurfer wrote...

Acolyte > Scorpion

Both utility weapons with different functions, comparing them is stupid.

Get a killstreak on a Phantom spawn with an Acolyte, then run that by me again.

[darthxaher]

Anyone who says Scorpion is not good needs to learn howto use the gun first. It's one of the best CC weapons in the game.

Just Try this: Scorpion V+ (HB + Mag) + Pistol Rail Amp III + Pistol Amp V + Incendiary Ammo IV + Any weapon centric class (GI, GethSol, TSol etc) that has either damage boost or ROF boost + Glacier against Cerberus Gold. You can practically clear spawn in seconds. Phantom/Dragoons are just jokes before this setup. If the match lasts more than 20 mins, then by all means, put this gun in the closet.

Do NOT try to shoot fast moving targets on the body, instead shoot on the ground where they are moving to, if the first mine goes of, it will stagger the hell out of them and then u can shoot on the body. It's AOE and stagger is one of the best in the game.

If you are trying to revive a team-mate who is surrounded by mooks, just shoot the mines around his dead body, there is a delay before it explodes, so any enemy who is going to attack you while you are doing your revive will be staggered, giving you breathing room to escape.

The gun is NOT meant to super effective against bosses, but it can kill them fairly well.

Modifié par darthxaher, 23 novembre 2012 - 05:42 .

[Xaijin]

etm125 wrote...

Xaijin wrote...

If you don't understand why it's amazing, you're not going to. It's the second best utility weapon in the entire game after the GPS.

Forget utility. I think the GPS is overall the best gun in the game. Can take out long range, middle range, short range targets. It staggers. It hitscan homes. It is lightweight enough that power classes can still use it. It requires no shredder or smart choke. It has a 5 shot clip. With ammo mod it has 52 shots. You can hold a charge and do lots of other stuff like dodge or use a power. It ignores armor. It does great damage. It trolls phantoms. 

Its only downside is that shots can just disappear on a laggy connection. Good conn or on host I thinks its the best gun in the game.


.......sorry for the sidetrack.

It also powerful sucks against high health units and bosses in comparison to other weapons that weigh much less and fire much faster. No weapon is absolute.

Modifié par Xaijin, 23 novembre 2012 - 05:48 .

[Tallgeese_VII]

Captain J. Sunshine wrote...

I keep hearing about it being amazing, but I don't get what is so great about it.
Is it because it activates ammo on every hit?
Is it because it explodes?
is it because it's cool?

I just don't see it. 

Edit: I only have it at I so it'll probably get better

It`s a proximity mine gun.

No other gun can even mimic what Scorpion does.

Now, figure out how you want to use it yourself.

[me0120]

My advice to you and all who want to see the Scorpions power is, don't use it on bronze. Everything dies too fast to make it's' crowd control and constant stagger useful.

[AppealToReason]

Phantom protection. Staggers like cray yo!

Plus its fun to spam it into a spawn or a doorway and watch enemies turn into chunks of meat.

[darkpassenger2342]

stagger, CC, ammo application, and panic situations.

keeps collector captains, hunters, maruaders and phantoms from shooting you and can allow you to control more than one to escape or kill.

[WMcAlister]

Stagger.

Ammo effects.

Crowd Control.

Explosions.  Ex-plooo-junz.  That alone makes anything good.

[Imp of the Perverse]

Captain J. Sunshine wrote...

ToaOrka wrote...

I actively despise the weapon, It was a **** to get Pistol Mastery with.

Tried it once ON BRONZE and I gave up on it.

It's a lot more useful on higher difficulties, in bronze and also silver to some extent your teammates will kill everything before your rounds start detonating.

[darkpassenger2342]

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

Captain J. Sunshine wrote...

ToaOrka wrote...

I actively despise the weapon, It was a **** to get Pistol Mastery with.

Tried it once ON BRONZE and I gave up on it.

It's a lot more useful on higher difficulties, in bronze and also silver to some extent your teammates will kill everything before your rounds start detonating.

This.
It was always my highest UR, had it at 8 or 9 when everything else was 2 or less.
I hated this gun until gold with it for that reason

[AbhijitSM]

It's the best crowd control weapon for me. I carry it as a secondary on my destroyer, demolisher, krogan soldier. Shoot it at the ground ahead of the path of the enemies for better effect. You can continously stagger packs of phantoms/dragoons & send them to their death. An excellent pistol IMO.

[Kalas Magnus]

Dat crowd control.

Any kit with a rof bonus turns it into a stagger lock machine. It is best for taking out human sized targets.

[xAegis]

K so I skimmed through most of these posts, saw the Stagger all the enemies post and here's my two cents on this topic.

Scorpion ---> Great for trying to make a smiley face on the wall before the shots explode.
Acolyte ---> Great for making you feel warm and happy inside when you bank shot a mob.

[Stinja]

Acolyte isn't great vs armour.
Scorpion is good against everything for its weight and utility.

I use it with ex-Cerb adept: singularity to slow, plant scorps, smash/lash, enemies dead. Fantastic on a gold pug game last night, when they were getting swamped by Dragoons and phantoms.
The problem is it is slow DPS, so as said other players often get kills, and you score can look worse than using say a direct fire gun like a harrier.
If you ignore score, and just watch the damage it wrecks but yes, it's not for every kit.

[avenging_teabag]

ToaOrka wrote...

I actively despise the weapon, It was a **** to get Pistol Mastery with.

Agreed. The pain of getting that chanllenge done. The pain!

Its sound effect is also one of the most unpleasant in the game. That tinny whine, like an overextended wire... it hurts my ears.

[N7 TwinWolf]

I've only used it a few times, but I guess it's great for staggering lower-level enemies (or "mooks", as you people call them), as well as Phantoms and Dragoons (not sure about the "Phantoms and Dragoons" part). With incendiary/disruptor/cryo rounds and detonation power, I would imagine that you'd be able to set up combos quite easily.

Modifié par N7 TwinWolf, 23 novembre 2012 - 07:35 .

[mybudgee]

See: Every action flick ever in which the protagonist (or bad guy) is walking away from an enemy and they explode. This is a reality with the Scorpion... one of my favorite pistols...

[hearydiver]

Stagger lock powahouse