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[Bayonet Hipshot]

Came across this post by David Gaider : 
http://dgaider.tumbl...ame-development 

This is all nice but shouldn't games, especially M rated games such as Dragon Age have uncomfortable scenarios & situations ?

In games like Dragon Age have you murdering hundreds if not thousands of sentient beings (like bandits, darkspawn, werewolves, sylvans), destroying buildings & lairs,  stealing valuable objects, betraying people,  drinking mind altering potions & alcohol, performing taboo magic using blood & dead bodies , etc 

Yet sexual themes / sexual assault is wrong & offensive somehow. Doesn't make sense to me.

IMO they should have just gone with the original idea, just make it presentable. Examples of gruesome ideas in other RPGs that is presented well is cannibalism in Skyrim, during the Daedric Prince Namira's quest.  

Thoughts & Opinions ? 

Modifié par The Sin, 23 novembre 2012 - 02:38 .

[David Gaider]

BlueMoonSeraphim wrote...
OP looked at this story and saw a team afraid to put rape in an M-rated game.

I looked at this story and saw a team fixing a plot point so it wouldn't be interpreted wrong.

This isn't a case of female writers saying "no rape or else," but a case of what was believed to be a non-rape plot point by male writers actually being perceived as a rape by female writers, and the team as a whole augmenting the scene to be interpreted as intended.

While the subject matter is certainly a hot-button issue for all sorts of people - this certainly just seems like business as usual, a team making sure their story is received as it was intended.

This is correct.

To the point-- the situation was not rape. There was no non-consensual sex. I'm not going to go into details, as that requires plot details-- suffice to say it was a sexual situation which could be interpreted as a form of rape (or violation, which might be a better phrase)... but that interpretation wasn't a difficult one to make and, far more importantly, as BlueMoonSeraphim said, that wasn't the writer's intention.

We're fully capable of including rape in a story if we feel it's required. That's not something I think is often required, however. Regardless of whether or not "it happens", it can be a bit too easy to go there and treat it as casual subject material when it's not. Not being overly sensitive to the sensibilities of one's audience does not require that we be completely insensitive, either.

[Sylvf]

slimgrin wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

There are people in this thread who are downright explicitly stating they do not want to see this stuff in games, for extremely valid, sometimes deeply personal reasons.

Cry me f*ckin' a river. Seriously. A developer that tries to take this in account is misguided to the point of watering down everything they do.

I'm going to ask you, or anyone on this forum, not to to disparage people who have concerns about portrayals of any content related to sexual assult in games. You're free to discuss the topic but blithley dismissing people, especially those who've suffered sexual assault, is simply unacceptable.

I will say this: the idea of content being "watered down" because we're careful with it is nonsense. A good team can make a horrific scenario out of almost anything. Knowing what boundaries you should and should not cross makes for a stronger scene, not a lesser one.

Modifié par Sylvf, 23 novembre 2012 - 06:52 .

[Allan Schumacher]

I am closing this thread.

Those of you that find our "design by committee" unacceptable and evidence that we compromise our work to be safe are more than welcome to spend their time on a different forum of a developer they feel is less compromising.

Modifié par Allan Schumacher, 23 novembre 2012 - 07:02 .