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[Patchwork]

As it's Orlais it would be cool if the tattoos were fancier, with jewels maybe or gilt outlines.

[RandomSyhn]

I like the idea of having the chance to play with orlesian makeup, I also would love the chance to be considered a uncultured savage by the orleasions due to my choice in tattoo

[Chipaway111]

RandomSyhn wrote...

I like the idea of having the chance to play with orlesian makeup, I also would love the chance to be considered a uncultured savage by the orleasions due to my choice in tattoo

As someone else suggested, Chasind background? The facial tattoos would be cool, and I'm pretty sure Chasind is one step below Fereldans(dens?) in an Orlesians eyes. 

[Herr Uhl]

Chipaway111 wrote...

RandomSyhn wrote...

I like the idea of having the chance to play with orlesian makeup, I also would love the chance to be considered a uncultured savage by the orleasions due to my choice in tattoo

As someone else suggested, Chasind background? The facial tattoos would be cool, and I'm pretty sure Chasind is one step below Fereldans(dens?) in an Orlesians eyes. 

I'd like it if Dalish were to mock your human PC if you chose to get Dalish-style tattoos.

[nightscrawl]

garrusfan1 wrote...

 In the prvious dragon age games only the DAO dalish tattoos looked good. The dwarves tats looked alright but the default tattoos looked horrible. All I am saying is if your gonna do the work to put them in make them good. Anyone agree

You will have to explain what you mean by "good" here. It's all subjective. Are you objecting to the aesthetic of the designs themselves (very subjective), OR the way they looked on the PC vis-a-vis facial tattoo realism (less subjective)?

I too would like more tattoo variety so the average human rogue/warrior can feel comfortable wearing a tattoo that is not supposed to be worn by casteless dwarves or Dalish elves, and more asymmetrical tattoos.

Helena Tylena wrote...

What I'd like are some restrictions on tattoos that make no sense for the person having them to have.

I mean in DA:O you could play a Dwarven Noble with a Castless tattoo. Or an Alienage-born elf with Daelish tattoos.
Makes all the sense, no?
No.

I agree with this in principle, but not in practice. While yes, those examples you cited don't make sense within the context of Thedas, the player who does that has designed their PC in the way that they want. In addition, there could be all sorts of RP reasons a player could come up with for their character having an out-of-context tattoo.

Modifié par nightscrawl, 25 novembre 2012 - 12:06 .

[Helena Tylena]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Chipaway111 wrote...

RandomSyhn wrote...

I like the idea of having the chance to play with orlesian makeup, I also would love the chance to be considered a uncultured savage by the orleasions due to my choice in tattoo

As someone else suggested, Chasind background? The facial tattoos would be cool, and I'm pretty sure Chasind is one step below Fereldans(dens?) in an Orlesians eyes. 

I'd like it if Dalish were to mock your human PC if you chose to get Dalish-style tattoos.

By 'mock', you mean 'skin alive', right?

[LinksOcarina]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

"Good" is kind of a difficult demand.

That being said, I'd like a few more asymmetrical ones. The symmetrical ones all look weird to me.

Yeah this basically.

The only tattoo I like is this one:



Mainly because it was to one side and had a small bit on the bottom. 

[Saberchic]

I didn't have a Hawke that had tattoos on their face. Did they include Dwarven and Dalish ones in the CC? They shouldn't have if they did.

If they do include tattoos, then I hope they take out the Dalish and Dwarven ones. The human PC should not be allowed to wear them, not unless they were raised by the Dalish or Dwarves (and I don't think that's the type of background choices they were talking about. lol).

[Herr Uhl]

Saberchic wrote...

If they do include tattoos, then I hope they take out the Dalish and Dwarven ones. The human PC should not be allowed to wear them, not unless they were raised by the Dalish or Dwarves (and I don't think that's the type of background choices they were talking about. lol).

I quite like the option to create a culturally insensitive chav.

[MichaelStuart]

I support having more tattoo option for both the face and body

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

Meh. I mostly associate facial tattoos in Dragon Age with the casteless dwarves and Dalish elves. I have used them with mage and city elf Wardens in DA:O, but with the human and dwarf nobles it always felt out of place.

I'll be unlikely to use them for my PCs in DA III. I won't be upset if BioWare creates some new ones and improves upon existing designs, but I'd actually prefer to have some good old-fashioned facial scars.

[Helena Tylena]

The Teryn of Whatever wrote...

Meh. I mostly associate facial tattoos in Dragon Age with the casteless dwarves and Dalish elves. I have used them with mage and city elf Wardens in DA:O, but with the human and dwarf nobles it always felt out of place.

I'll be unlikely to use them for my PCs in DA III. I won't be upset if BioWare creates some new ones and improves upon existing designs, but I'd actually prefer to have some good old-fashioned facial scars.

Facial scars > lore-nonsensical tattoos.

[KiwiQuiche]

I would prefer facial scars. One of the reasons I liked ME1 was the fact my Femshep had bigass scar on one side of her face despite being paragon. Then ME2 ruined that.

But yes, I would like more tattoos/scar options. And maybe they could be on the rest of your PC's body? Like in Dragon's Dogma where my Arisen has a scarred face and scars all along her arms. Like wearing sleeveless shirts with that XD

[Neon Rising Winter]

I'd prefer options for scars over tattoos as well, especially, as people have said, facial tattoos for a human character isn't an obvious choice given the lore. I liked the warpaint effect with the default Hawkes in DA2, so more choices along those lines too. Extending them beyond the face would also be nice, especially arms where they could be visible in normal clothing.

Basically the standard cry of the person who doesn't have to implement it - give me lots more options.

[labargegrrrl]

jump on thread b/c it looks interesting...

find comment that i think is moderately offensive, and make snide comment on the fly that i'm pretty sure no one will take all that seriously...

jump onto other things...

return to forum and find a whole ton of crazy reactions to the offhand comment i was pretty sure no one would take all that seriously...and zero reaction to posts i've made in other forums that i was actually hoping might get an insightful response from...

i guess i'm never going to understand the bsn as long as i live.

but tattoos...i would love to second everyone who said more designs, more colors, expanding beyond the face, and adding scars to the repertoire. that, and since we're likely in Orlais, face paint and masks. they've both been alluded to far too many times to ignore.

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

KiwiQuiche wrote...

I would prefer facial scars. One of the reasons I liked ME1 was the fact my Femshep had bigass scar on one side of her face despite being paragon. Then ME2 ruined that.

But yes, I would like more tattoos/scar options. And maybe they could be on the rest of your PC's body? Like in Dragon's Dogma where my Arisen has a scarred face and scars all along her arms. Like wearing sleeveless shirts with that XD

It's weird that Cerberus would go to all the trouble of bringing Shep back to life with the Lazarus Project plus do some cosmetic surgery on her/him while they're at it. A side effect of the rejuvenation process perhaps? I think they got rid of them so that they wouldn't interfere with ME2's patented "Renegade Side Transitions", which is a pity. Some of those scars in Mass Effect were really, really bada**!

Modifié par The Teryn of Whatever, 25 novembre 2012 - 03:01 .

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

I'd like to see facial tattoos completely gone except where lore-appropriate.

As others have said, bring on the scars, freckles, moles, and so on. On a related note, I'd like there not to be any more ridiculous colors of makeup. Encountering random NPCs with grey lipstick is jarring and silly.

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

Pseudocognition wrote...

I'd like to see facial tattoos completely gone except where lore-appropriate.

As others have said, bring on the scars, freckles, moles, and so on. On a related note, I'd like there not to be any more ridiculous colors of makeup. Encountering random NPCs with grey lipstick is jarring and silly.

All too often when I see someone with intensely coloured lipstick in the Dragon Age games, I'm reminded of this guy:



I'm okay with most eyeshadow colours and the darker lipstick shades, like black, dark red, brown are fine, and pink can be okay, if the intensity is turned down, but orange, white, grey, most of the greens are yucky.

Modifié par The Teryn of Whatever, 25 novembre 2012 - 12:28 .

[Orian Tabris]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

"only the savage views the endurance of pain as the measure of worth."

Besides, I think that quote does hold true. It doesn't state that anyone feeling pain views it as a measure of worth, it suggests that those who undergo pain purely to prove their worth, are savages. I think that if you do undergo pain for that very purpose, then you are a savage to some degree.

Why do you think that? Can you provide a definition of savage that doesn't boil down to 'people who think differently than my cultural norm?'

Savage, as in someone who is tribal. To be savage (as opposed to being a savage) is to believe that negative effects to a body, are a positive thing - whether your body or someone else's. You don't need to damage a body, to receive benefits, there are less harmful ways to benefit from something, such as reading books to enhance your intellect. Thus someone altering their body to gain something, is rather backwards - just like using simple tools is "primitive" and using complex tools is... "progressive" for lack of a better word.

Civilization is built on doing things that aren't natural: clothing, agriculture, tool use, written languages. If we're going to get down to it, a woman who is experiencing pain because it's 'natural' is being more savage than one who experiences pain because it hold social significance to them.

After all, the tattoo is a work of art with a specific social meaning. Popping out a baby is something my cat has done.

I meant that reproduction is something males and females do naturally, while piercing skin, is a choice thought up by a civilisation. When a woman has sex, she may inevitably give birth, she doesn't force a fetus to grow inside her by immediate choice. Not that the choice to get pregnant is natural, but rather, the choice to coincide with nature is (if that makes any sense).

Modifié par Orian Tabris, 26 novembre 2012 - 03:50 .

[piloteyre]

"Savage, as in someone who is tribal"

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Wow. Good to know that as part of an ethnic group that is traditionally "tribal", I'm just a savage. Who knew BSN doubled as time machine to the 19th century? Jesus. But then, I haven't tattooed my face, so maybe I'm exempt?

And I hate the Dalish tattoos being used on humans. I think it would be hilarious if the Dalish mercilessly mocked any PC that had them, tbh. But, player choice and all, so I don't really think they should be removed.

eta - so, after taking a few deep breaths... I know that you probably mean someone who adheres to beliefs considered barbaric by modern standards, but I wish you'd use different terminoloy.  Ther are in fact modern tribal peoples who are civilized by any standard, and equating tribes with savagery is... problematic and hurtful, to say the least..

Modifié par piloteyre, 26 novembre 2012 - 04:15 .