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[xAmilli0n]

I'm a casual DA player, meaning I do it for the story not challenge, so I get where the OP is coming from. I totally support an easy mode that is pretty much impossible to die in (like ME3s narrative mode). However, I can't say I've had any issues with DA:O or DA2s casual difficulty.

[Ninja Stan]

I don't think it's possible to have combat settings that will please everyone at all levels of ability and/or enjoyment. At some point, the player will have to be able to do something in order to win a combat, even if it's just mashing the attack button or whatever. This is the "game" part of videogame, and it's every developer's dream to perfect a n "easy to learn, hard to master" type combat system that is at least tolerable to everyone.

[Melra]

Oh boy... You couldn't be more wrong. There are only few games for hardcore gamers these days. Those games that offer competitive hardcore gameplay usually are easy to play, but difficult to master, if you want to enjoy the game more you should learn to play. That's how it should be with all games imo.

Do more, get more.

That being said, if the difficulty comes from bad and boring gameplay, then there's something wrong. DA:O's combat was extremely boring for me and I never bothered to put the difficulty too high.

I don't think games need to be toned down, I just think the gameplay needs to be made interesting enough for most people to learn and master. If you simply jump into a game and do horribly, it's most likely cause you skipped the tutorial and that's all your fault. If you have no interest to learn, you have no right to complain.

[FaWa]

Imperium Alpha wrote...

Don't worry... "Story/Narrative mode" will probably be there for you.

Wow this worked so well in ME3 

[immanji]

so do i my friend. so do i. T_T ima perma noob in a world full of mlg

[FaWa]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

FaWa wrote...

And the answer is runscript killallhostiles. If Bioware were to maybe make the console more well known... (I don't remember if it even exists in DA2)

Try that on the console.

Most DA players don't play on the PC.

lol sorry I completely forgot the DA games were even released on PS3/Xbox. 

[Maria Caliban]

FaWa wrote...

Imperium Alpha wrote...

Don't worry... "Story/Narrative mode" will probably be there for you.

Wow this worked so well in ME3 

As far as I know, Story mode did work well.

[Maria Caliban]

How can you have skill at chess? You just pick up a piece and move it.
How can you have skill at writing? You just tap on a keyboard or move a pen across paper.

[FaWa]

Maria Caliban wrote...

FaWa wrote...

Imperium Alpha wrote...

Don't worry... "Story/Narrative mode" will probably be there for you.

Wow this worked so well in ME3 

As far as I know, Story mode did work well.

wtf? Did you play it? The auto diaologue was borderline unbearable. It was as if I wasn't playing a Bioware game anymore

[FaWa]

Warden used tempest! Everything died!

[Maria Caliban]

FaWa wrote...

wtf? Did you play it?

Indeed, I've played it.

The auto diaologue was borderline unbearable. It was as if I wasn't playing a Bioware game anymore

Then turn off the auto-dialogue if you only want casual combat.

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Video games hardly require the strategy of chess or the creativity and planning of writing.

There's video game chess. A computer is actually a better chess player than a human being.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 25 novembre 2012 - 02:00 .

[TEWR]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

I'd prefer an 'Auto-Resolve' outcome option if the player were to die more than twice or they were to spend too long on a puzzle. That way, if the game senses that the player is struggling, it will pop up a 'would you like to skip this?' prompt.

The Simpsons: Hit and Run did that. If you were failing a quest consistently, you could eventually choose to skip it and just move on to the next quest.

[FaWa]

Maria Caliban wrote...

FaWa wrote...

wtf? Did you play it?

Indeed, I've played it.

The auto diaologue was borderline unbearable. It was as if I wasn't playing a Bioware game anymore

Then turn off the auto-dialogue if you only want casual combat.

Auto dialogue is defined as Shepard saying something when the player did not command her/him to say that thing. Ala all of ME3's writing

[nightscrawl]

Brass_Buckles wrote...

I think one thing people are missing is that some people who find the game too difficult might have valid reasons that it is difficult but still want to play the game and enjoy it if it isn't easy.

I actually did consider this and could have gone into accessibility issues in my previous post (this issue has actually been raised elsewhere on the forums in previous months), but the OP didn't mention any disabilities or infirmities that might hinder game play, simply that he or she "sucks at video games." One can certainly suck at video gaming and be perfectly able everywhere else.

[hexaligned]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Before we go any further with this, I do admit that games do require some strategy. BUT I do think that people place too much weight on having "skills" in games. The strategies aren't very hard to figure out once you learn how the game works. For example, I breeze through games because the mechanics never change and are easy to learn, but I'm horrible at chess because you never know what the other guys strategy is going to be.

...they make multiplayer strategy games.  A lot of which have a hundred times the depth and options that chess does.  I say that as someone who loves chess (I Just played a marathon of it with the fam over the holiday) , but it's simplistic to the point that it's hardly even comparable.

To the OP's topic, the problem with gutting the mechanics even further than they have already, is that it tends to destroy the higher difficulty settings too.  Devs don't want to make 5 different versions of the game, which means harder difficulties get the same mechanics, just increased enemy stats, for the most part.  Which just makes fights longer and more tedious, not necessarily harder.  There is no way (that I can see), that you can actually "suck" at DA on casual, it takes a very minimal time investment to learn the mechanics, you don't even really need to do that, you can just mash A and get through the vast majority of fights.

[Xerxes52]

Well, there was a Narrative difficulty in ME3, which practically made you invincible.

Throwing in a Narrative difficulty wouldn't be a bad idea. I probably wouldn't use it though.

Maybe also allow us to activate tactics on the controlled party member (i.e. the entire party is running on AI tactics)? That doesn't even have to be tied to difficulty. I know there's some mods out there for the PC that do the same thing, but the consoles can't make use of them.

[Raikas]

FaWa wrote...

Auto dialogue is defined as Shepard saying something when the player did not command her/him to say that thing. Ala all of ME3's writing

Fair enough, but then that's not a difference between the narrative vs. casual (vs normal vs. hardcore vs insanity) difficulty levels, so how is it relevant to how well the narrative/story/utlra-easy mode worked in comparison to the other modes within the same game?

Modifié par Hervoyl, 25 novembre 2012 - 02:37 .

[Maria Caliban]

FaWa wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

FaWa wrote...

wtf? Did you play it?

Indeed, I've played it.

The auto diaologue was borderline unbearable. It was as if I wasn't playing a Bioware game anymore

Then turn off the auto-dialogue if you only want casual combat.

Auto dialogue is defined as Shepard saying something when the player did not command her/him to say that thing. Ala all of ME3's writing

Then how did Story mode not work?

[Mummy22kids]

Shevy_001 wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Perhaps there should be an easier mode than Easy for the "really bad at games" and "want to get to a certain part of the game" crowd.

ME3 had Narrative- a ridiculously easy difficulty even easier than Casual, which preceded Normal, then Veteran, then Hardcore, and finally Insanity.

More difficulty settings in DA games? I'd welcome it. As long as there aren't any requirements for playing the game on a certain difficulty, like getting an achievement for beating the game on its hardest setting or only unlocking a weapon if you beat the game on Hard, get my drift?

Let the player play the game at whatever difficulty makes them comfortable without forcing them out of their comfort zone.

I think achievements for completing the game/certain objectives on harder difficulties wouldn't harm those who can't/don't want to do it. It doesn't give you an advantage in the game and for me they are an appeal to find solutions for the tougher tasks.

Items on the other hand shouldn't be difficulty depending.

I agree.  I rarely play on anything harder than easy- it's just not my thing but I do understand why people aspire to finishing the game on nightmare.  I will never get the achievemant for beating the Varterral on Nightmare and I can live with that.  I think if you're going to put in the time and energy to do that kind of playthrough then you desreve some kind of acknowledgement.