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[txgoldrush]

o Ventus wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

First off, Normandy actively FIRES on the Rannoch Reaper...FIRST...giving it away.

And? Harbinger literally looks directly at the Normandy. Unless he's blind and doesn't have eyes installed, he sees it.

The Normandy does NOT fire of Harbinger. Seems logical to me. You are simply ignoring the fact, once again, that on Rannoch, the Normandy gave itself away.

You mean like how the Normandy is essentially giving itself away during the pickup? What could Harbinger possibly be thinking? "Oh hey, Shepard and friends are running right into Bob! Why are they doing that? I thought they were fighting us?"

And what makes you think that Reapers see the way organics do. Once again, EDI says that Reapers see friendly intellegences, so EDI emulates one. Once again, more fake criticism...

And not to mention quantam entaglement coms which the Reapers cannot pick up, forgot another one did you.

[o Ventus]

txgoldrush wrote...

And what makes you think that Reapers see the way organics do. Once again, EDI says that Reapers see friendly intellegences, so EDI emulates one. Once again, more fake criticism...

I guess you missed literally the first part of my post.

And not to mention quantam entaglement coms which the Reapers cannot pick up, forgot another one did you.

Those same QEC comms that are obscenely expensive to manufacture? Those same QEC comms that the Normandy only has one of (the one that Shepard uses to talk to Hackett and Anderson)? You're fully aware that Shepard's line to the Normandy from the field is a radio, right? 

[Seboist]

It goes without saying that DAO is cliche fantasy but...

txgoldrush wrote...

In fact ME3 does consquence better than DAO.

Lol no,  interchangable characters, throwaway dialogue and arbitary numbers are not better consequences.

[txgoldrush]

o Ventus wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Seboist wrote...

DAO is the only recent EAware game with choices worth a damn.

But the story is cliched, the characters follow formula and the plot is basically KOTOR in dark fantasy world. The consquences are also very obvious and really don't change the story much.

In fact ME3 does consquence better than DAO.

... And ME3 is DAO, only now set in space.

Dalish elves  -> salarians
Werewolves -> krogan
Darkspawn -> Reapers
Dwarves -> turians
Mages -> asari (only major difference being that the asari aren't social outcasts)

In only in uniting the galaxy, yes, everything else...no.

And those races is nowhere near alike to the DAO races.

Nevermind that ME3 is better told, it actually incorporates its characters and its side plots to the main plot, unlike the unfocused DAO.

Oh really? The Dalish created the werewolves in a similar fashion to how the salarians uplifted the krogan. They "created" the monster.

You're really suggesting that the Reapers don't have blatant similarities to the darkspawn? Are you a legitimate moron?

The dwarves are a militaristically strong race with a terrible government, just like the turians.

The mages are very mental combatants, just like how the asari are mostly biotic fighters.

Oh so DAO copied ME1 now......

[palician]

[quote]LanceSolous13 wrote...

The threat was already substancial enough.

A one-hit KO weapon devalues them. A long galaxy wide battle with everyone uniting together AS PER THE THEME OF THE SERIES does not.

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[o Ventus]

txgoldrush wrote...

Oh so DAO copied ME1 now......

Nice strawman.

I'm saying that ME3 copied the fundamentals of DAO, almost to a T. It did. The species archetypes are present in all Bioware games.

Overview of DAO plot- Gather and unite a bunch of uncooperative species to stop an otherworldy force from killing everything.

Overview of ME3 plot- Gather and unite a bunch of uncooperative species to stop an otherworldly force from killing everybody.

Only major difference is that the justification for the lack of cooperation is much dumber in ME3.

[txgoldrush]

o Ventus wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

And what makes you think that Reapers see the way organics do. Once again, EDI says that Reapers see friendly intellegences, so EDI emulates one. Once again, more fake criticism...

I guess you missed literally the first part of my post.

And not to mention quantam entaglement coms which the Reapers cannot pick up, forgot another one did you.

Those same QEC comms that are obscenely expensive to manufacture? Those same QEC comms that the Normandy only has one of (the one that Shepard uses to talk to Hackett and Anderson)? You're fully aware that Shepard's line to the Normandy from the field is a radio, right? 

And who helps work the comms...guess who??? EDI, who works the IFF.

If the London scene is bunk...how do they easily get off Manae and Thessia during a Reaper invasion? Face it, the scene is consistant, there is no plot hole...its a fake criticism.

Is how the scene was directed a real criticism...yes...it was a pace breaker and kind of forced (this scene should of happened after Shepard makes the conduit), but its not a plot hole.

[o Ventus]

txgoldrush wrote...

And who helps work the comms...guess who??? EDI, who works the IFF.

Which has to do with...?

If the London scene is bunk...how do they easily get off Manae and Thessia during a Reaper invasion? Face it, the scene is consistant, there is no plot hole...its a fake criticism.

The Normandy isn't having a staring contest with Reapers on Menae and Thessia. Hell, the Reapers on Menae and Thessia aren't even remotely near the Normandy.

Is how the scene was directed a real criticism...yes...it was a pace breaker and kind of forced (this scene should of happened after Shepard makes the conduit), but its not a plot hole.

What are you talking about?

[Seboist]

J. Reezy wrote...

Seboist wrote...

It goes without saying that DAO is cliche fantasy but...

txgoldrush wrote...

In fact ME3 does consquence better than DAO.

Lol no,  interchangable characters, throwaway dialogue and arbitary numbers are not better consequences.

One of the bigger problems I have with the game. "Killed the rachni queen? Get a clone! Mordin dead? Padok Wiks! Grunt dead? Some Krogan!"

As lame as that is, it's better than what Renegade recieved in ME2(a black hole of nothing).

[txgoldrush]

o Ventus wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Oh so DAO copied ME1 now......

Nice strawman.

I'm saying that ME3 copied the fundamentals of DAO, almost to a T. It did. The species archetypes are present in all Bioware games.

Overview of DAO plot- Gather and unite a bunch of uncooperative species to stop an otherworldy force from killing everything.

Overview of ME3 plot- Gather and unite a bunch of uncooperative species to stop an otherworldly force from killing everybody.

Only major difference is that the justification for the lack of cooperation is much dumber in ME3.

And yet it is DAO that copied ME1, or did you miss this. Hint: ME1 came first.

And unting the galaxy has been a theme since ME1.

And nothing comes close to stupid ass Loghain in the stupid department.

[txgoldrush]

o Ventus wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

And who helps work the comms...guess who??? EDI, who works the IFF.

Which has to do with...?

If the London scene is bunk...how do they easily get off Manae and Thessia during a Reaper invasion? Face it, the scene is consistant, there is no plot hole...its a fake criticism.

The Normandy isn't having a staring contest with Reapers on Menae and Thessia. Hell, the Reapers on Menae and Thessia aren't even remotely near the Normandy.

Is how the scene was directed a real criticism...yes...it was a pace breaker and kind of forced (this scene should of happened after Shepard makes the conduit), but its not a plot hole.

What are you talking about?

and yet...Reapers don't see like organics do...with EDI's explanation, once again, Harby may see the Normandy as a friendly.

[txgoldrush]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Loghain was ten times the character of any ME villain, tbh.

No, Saren and TIM have far more logical plotlines.....Loghain is just an idiot who thinks Orlais is a bigger threat than orcs who burn everything so he betrays his own king to the bad guys.

[o Ventus]

txgoldrush wrote...

and yet...Reapers don't see like organics do...with EDI's explanation, once again, Harby may see the Normandy as a friendly.

... Until Harbinger sees Shepard and friends willingly running over to Bob the Reaper's IFF signature, like I pointed out earlier.

Unless his IQ is in the negative, he would find that suspect.

[txgoldrush]

o Ventus wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

and yet...Reapers don't see like organics do...with EDI's explanation, once again, Harby may see the Normandy as a friendly.

... Until Harbinger sees Shepard and friends willingly running over to Bob the Reaper's IFF signature, like I pointed out earlier.

Unless his IQ is in the negative, he would find that suspect.

but yet he doesn't...nevermind that he is firing at everybody closing in on the beam. It doesn't matter who it is.

You are making up criticism once again.

[o Ventus]

txgoldrush wrote...

but yet he doesn't...nevermind that he is firing at everybody closing in on the beam. It doesn't matter who it is.

You are making up criticism once again.

Again, and? Harbinger has a gun in each tentacle, plus at least 2 underside cannons. If you're counting the scrawny leg-things on his back as tentacles, that's 12 guns that each fire a payload that is approximately x10 (or higher) more destructive than the Little Boy that struck Hiroshima.

All Harbinger has to do is fire in the general vicinity of the footsoldiers rushing the beam and they would be vaporized.

Modifié par o Ventus, 25 novembre 2012 - 04:43 .

[txgoldrush]

J. Reezy wrote...

Seboist wrote...

It goes without saying that DAO is cliche fantasy but...

txgoldrush wrote...

In fact ME3 does consquence better than DAO.

Lol no,  interchangable characters, throwaway dialogue and arbitary numbers are not better consequences.

One of the bigger problems I have with the game. "Killed the rachni queen? Get a clone! Mordin dead? Padok Wiks! Grunt dead? Some Krogan!"

And yet MORE fake criticism....boy, the fansbase is so dumb.

Characters aren't replaced with clones, but with foils. Wreav and Wrex are totally different, so is Padok Wiks and Mordin, so is Grunt and Dagg, and so is teh Rachni queen.

[txgoldrush]

o Ventus wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

but yet he doesn't...nevermind that he is firing at everybody closing in on the beam. It doesn't matter who it is.

You are making up criticism once again.

Again, and? Harbinger has a gun in each tentacle, plus at least 2 underside cannons. If you're counting the scrawny leg-things on his back as tentacles, that's 12 guns that each fire a payload that is approximately x10 (or higher) more destructive than the Little Boy that struck Hiroshima.

And yet he was not firing from the tentacles....try again.

By your logic, he would blow up the Conduit with one shot.

[MegaSovereign]

Aren't you part of the fanbase that you criticize? A little bit of self-hatred going on there.

[o Ventus]

txgoldrush wrote...

And yet he was not firing from the tentacles....try again.

By your logic, he would blow up the Conduit with one shot.

I have no idea if he would destroy the Conduit or not. I highly doubt it, given that the Conduit is a stream of magic energy and not a physical construct.

[txgoldrush]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Aren't you part of the fanbase that you criticize? A little bit of self-hatred going on there.

Which is fine....I am a Tali fan, but I hate Talimancers, for example.

[txgoldrush]

o Ventus wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

And yet he was not firing from the tentacles....try again.

By your logic, he would blow up the Conduit with one shot.

I have no idea if he would destroy the Conduit or not. I highly doubt it, given that the Conduit is a stream of magic energy and not a physical construct.

or the fact that you are making things up to make ME3 look bad.

[o Ventus]

txgoldrush wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Aren't you part of the fanbase that you criticize? A little bit of self-hatred going on there.

Which is fine....I am a Tali fan, but I hate Talimancers, for example.

So you're a Talimancer who hates Talimancers.

Is there anything you say that isn't totally retarded?

[o Ventus]

txgoldrush wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

And yet he was not firing from the tentacles....try again.

By your logic, he would blow up the Conduit with one shot.

I have no idea if he would destroy the Conduit or not. I highly doubt it, given that the Conduit is a stream of magic energy and not a physical construct.

or the fact that you are making things up to make ME3 look bad.

I had no idea that finding gaps in logic was the same as "making things up". Y'know, for supposedly having problems with the ending, you sure do go out of your way to brown-nose it.