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[taplonaplo]

xcrunr1647 wrote...

taplonaplo wrote...

these two just brake the game sub Plat.

Sorry, I was too busy laughing to take you seriously.

Argument of the year 2012, welcome to BSN where we have our priorities straight.

[xcrunr1647]

GeneralMoskvin_2.0 wrote...

it does more damage per shot than a Mattock. Barely acceptable, even if it is an UR.

The Mattock is an Uncommon.

UNCOMMON.

Harrier is Ultra-Rare.

ULTRA-RARE.

It's perfectly acceptable.

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

If people want to nerf the Harrier, they should also take a look at nerfing the PPR, the Hurricane, the Typhoon, the Talon, the Javelin, the Black Widow.

Those guns kill everything too quickly, nerf them.

Javelin and Widow can osk Phantoms, nerf them too!!1!

[xcrunr1647]

taplonaplo wrote...

xcrunr1647 wrote...

taplonaplo wrote...

these two just brake the game sub Plat.

Sorry, I was too busy laughing to take you seriously.

Argument of the year 2012, welcome to BSN where we have our priorities straight.

Laughter is healthy, it's been proven to lengthen your lifespan.

I clearly have my priorities straight

[GeneralMoskvin_2.0]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

If people want to nerf the Harrier, they should also take a look at nerfing the PPR, the Hurricane, the Typhoon, the Talon, the Javelin, the Black Widow.

Those guns kill everything too quickly, nerf them.

Eherm. No issue taken with nerfing the Hurricane, but on other ARs we got a major drawback that simply camping doesn't solve: The PPR has little burst damage and only excels at sustained fire, the Typhoon's recoil is over the top, the Talon is not suitable for longer ranges, the javelin's weight kills casters (also the thermal clip does) and the Black Widow....well, why not. The recent buff turned it into a widow with three shots imo anyway.

[ZLurps]

GeneralMoskvin_2.0 wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

If people want to nerf the Harrier, they should also take a look at nerfing the PPR, the Hurricane, the Typhoon, the Talon, the Javelin, the Black Widow.

Those guns kill everything too quickly, nerf them.

Eherm. No issue taken with nerfing the Hurricane, but on other ARs we got a major drawback that simply camping doesn't solve: The PPR has little burst damage and only excels at sustained fire, the Typhoon's recoil is over the top, the Talon is not suitable for longer ranges, the javelin's weight kills casters (also the thermal clip does) and the Black Widow....well, why not. The recent buff turned it into a widow with three shots imo anyway.

Black Widow VI - VII is close to three shot Mantis X.

[GeneralMoskvin_2.0]

ZLurps wrote...

GeneralMoskvin_2.0 wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

If people want to nerf the Harrier, they should also take a look at nerfing the PPR, the Hurricane, the Typhoon, the Talon, the Javelin, the Black Widow.

Those guns kill everything too quickly, nerf them.

Eherm. No issue taken with nerfing the Hurricane, but on other ARs we got a major drawback that simply camping doesn't solve: The PPR has little burst damage and only excels at sustained fire, the Typhoon's recoil is over the top, the Talon is not suitable for longer ranges, the javelin's weight kills casters (also the thermal clip does) and the Black Widow....well, why not. The recent buff turned it into a widow with three shots imo anyway.

Black Widow VI - VII is close to three shot Mantis X.

That's it pretty much. Point and shoot with the thing, pop the heat sink with your infiltrator's cloak bonus, profit. Weapons that are difficult to handle should dish out much more damage imo, take the Kishock for instance.

[StrawHatMoose]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

If people want to nerf the Harrier, they should also take a look at nerfing the PPR, the Hurricane, the Typhoon, the Talon, the Javelin, the Black Widow.

Those guns kill everything too quickly, nerf them.

This.
We need to make everything into a shuriken with different skins.

Modifié par StrawHatMoose, 25 novembre 2012 - 02:41 .

[ZLurps]

GeneralMoskvin_2.0 wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

GeneralMoskvin_2.0 wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

If people want to nerf the Harrier, they should also take a look at nerfing the PPR, the Hurricane, the Typhoon, the Talon, the Javelin, the Black Widow.

Those guns kill everything too quickly, nerf them.

Eherm. No issue taken with nerfing the Hurricane, but on other ARs we got a major drawback that simply camping doesn't solve: The PPR has little burst damage and only excels at sustained fire, the Typhoon's recoil is over the top, the Talon is not suitable for longer ranges, the javelin's weight kills casters (also the thermal clip does) and the Black Widow....well, why not. The recent buff turned it into a widow with three shots imo anyway.

Black Widow VI - VII is close to three shot Mantis X.

That's it pretty much. Point and shoot with the thing, pop the heat sink with your infiltrator's cloak bonus, profit. Weapons that are difficult to handle should dish out much more damage imo, take the Kishock for instance.

Unless there has been big balance adjustment (than can very well be, I started playing again just couple of weeks ago after months inactivity) your comparison was still wrong. Mantis X was pretty much on par with Widow I and BW I isn't anywhere near Mantis X so I don't really see where BW = 3 shot Widow comes from.

There are other classes on this game that can use sniper rifles than Infiltrators, and I think I rather take Kishock X over BW VI-VII on Gold, oh wait, there is also Valiant.

Can't but wonder how much easier it were if there weren't but one gun in each weapon category and level of rarity.

[EagleScoutDJB]

I like the Harrier but certain ARs are better if you pair them with the right build. Like the Revenant for the Turian Soldier, Marksman paired with the right mods can almost take down an Atlas in one clip on silver, and I have yet to find anything better then the Saber for the Asari Justicar.

[Blind2Society]

theillusiveman11 wrote...

We buff other ARs as needed.

I was truly hoping I was going to see this line in there somewhere.

[Stardusk]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

If people want to nerf the Harrier, they should also take a look at nerfing the PPR, the Hurricane, the Typhoon, the Talon, the Javelin, the Black Widow.

Those guns kill everything too quickly, nerf them.

Actually only Jay_Hoxtatron needs a nerf.

[FeralJester616]

I have to wonder...

How did this thread become a "Nerf everything" debate?

[.458]

A big reason that the harrier is such a good weapon is that it is indeed ultra rare. Seems to have a lower drop rate than even the other UR weapons. As time goes on though, more people will get this weapon...why use a lower rarity weapon if you've played long enough to obtain one? So if it is that utilized, you can only compare with other UR weapons. That more people are using it can't be a fair comparison if looking at lower rarity...one has to look at both that it is utilized more for UR and also for the AR role. Can't compare it to something like sniper weapon usage even if the weapon is UR, unless there are as many people playing characters that use the sniper weapon.

There do need to be more rare level ARs that are well behaved, such as the collector rifle. The damage is somewhat underwhelming for collector rifle, but in many ways it is superior to the harrier. Somehow it just doesn't seem to be proper to call it a balance act unless a new competitor to harrier is also introduced at the UR level. It does seem very fair to say that we lack well behaved ARs at lower rarity. We do need more than we have, but it isn't fair to say it is because people use the harrier.

[Blind2Society]

FeralJester616 wrote...

I have to wonder...

How did this thread become a "Nerf everything" debate?

[RaalTheWyvern]

I don't mind if they were to buff all other Assault Rifles, but they shall not touch my Harrier V. Not my baby...

[Seifer006]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

If people want to nerf the Harrier, they should also take a look at nerfing the PPR, the Hurricane, the Typhoon, the Talon, the Javelin, the Black Widow.

Those guns kill everything too quickly, nerf them.

you serious?????

Typhoon was nerf'd and ****ing pissed about it. A damn good UR and now it's ****. Though I have my at level 1....

I hate nerfs with deadly passion

[N7-RedFox]

Valkyrie definitely needs a buff. I have it at lvl III and my avenger X out scored it (tested with same weapon mods and on Turian Ghost)

[SilentStep79]

ABjerre wrote...

The Harrier behaves exactly like an AR should - i completely agree that every other rifle is the problem. Well, every AR outside the UR's.

They are Assault Rifles, not Swedish Massage Rifles, make them behave like it. Please.

what he said

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

Seifer006 wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

If people want to nerf the Harrier, they should also take a look at nerfing the PPR, the Hurricane, the Typhoon, the Talon, the Javelin, the Black Widow.

Those guns kill everything too quickly, nerf them.

you serious?????

Typhoon was nerf'd and ****ing pissed about it. A damn good UR and now it's ****. Though I have my at level 1....

I hate nerfs with deadly passion

Yeah I was deadly serious.

Not.

GeneralMoskvin_2.0 wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

If people want to nerf the Harrier, they should also take a look at nerfing the PPR, the Hurricane, the Typhoon, the Talon, the Javelin, the Black Widow. 

Those guns kill everything too quickly, nerf them.

Eherm. No issue taken with nerfing the Hurricane, but on other ARs we got a major drawback that simply camping doesn't solve: The PPR has little burst damage and only excels at sustained fire, the Typhoon's recoil is over the top, the Talon is not suitable for longer ranges, the javelin's weight kills casters (also the thermal clip does) and the Black Widow....well, why not. The recent buff turned it into a widow with three shots imo anyway.

PPR : prefire around corners.

Typhoon : Recoil? What is this recoil you speak of? Since they fixed the recoil glitch it had at higher levels, it doesn't have a lot of recoil.

Talon's accuracy : use accuracy boosting classes. Or use something more accurate as a backup weapon for long distance engagements.

Javelin : Was never meant to be a caster's weapon. And you can use it on casters for the lulz anyway without too much trouble if you have a  half decent aim.

Modifié par Jay_Hoxtatron, 25 novembre 2012 - 03:39 .

[xcrunr1647]

_only1biggs_ wrote...

xcrunr1647 wrote...

Laughter is healthy, it's been proven to lengthen your lifespan.

I clearly have my priorities straight

no it hasn't. laughter can be stressful on the heart and lungs. there MIGHT be a CORRELATION between laughing and living longer. go to school

I'm in school for exercise science, and I've worked in the health and fitness field since I was 19 (I'm 24, 25 in a few months). This is what I do.

Way to make an ass out of yourself.

Keep up those assumptions, bro.

[Kenadian]

The Harrier is a clear cut case of everything else sucking while the Harrier was done right. As opposed to the Harrier being ahead of the pack because its OP, like the Falcon was back in the day, or the Krysae.

[Seifer006]

IMO I think Harrier could use more ammo capacity.....

gun be much more enjoyable IMO if this one area could be increase

[Gornok]

I think your idea stinks...

calling for the balancing of a good weapon.
sssshhhhhhh

simply don't use the weapon and use something else. 

Modifié par Gornok, 25 novembre 2012 - 03:42 .