Sovereign in Paragon Lost
#176
Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 12:52
#177
Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 12:53
One could always play a drinking game while watching the movie to make it more fun. One shot of tequila each time you notice a plot hole or inconsistency.
#178
Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 12:55
Eterna5 wrote...
It's such a small detail that I find it very hard to care. Sovereign is dead either way, how his dead corpse looks has little to no affect on the story being told.
Stop nit picking for the sake of nit picking.
Just how low are your standards? Seriously its a pretty damned well known fact that the Citadel does not orbit a planet. Its been like that for three games, and this is a nit pick?
I mean c'mon, surely even YOU have to draw the line somewhere.
#179
Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 12:57
That's all fun and games until someone dies from liver failure.anorling wrote...
One could always play a drinking game while watching the movie to make it more fun. One shot of tequila each time you notice a plot hole or inconsistency.
Modifié par brettc893, 26 novembre 2012 - 12:57 .
#180
Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 12:58
anorling wrote...
One could always play a drinking game while watching the movie to make it more fun. One shot of tequila each time you notice a plot hole or inconsistency.
And on that day, half of BSN dies of alcohol poisoning.
Regarding paragon lost, I never intended on watching it. But these little things sure are dumb mistakes. It just makes me go "Really BW?" Yeah, they didn't write or make it, but its still their product.
Anyways, I look forward to the nerd rage once it releases.
#181
Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 12:59
Am I the only one who likes Manga but cant stand Anime?
#182
Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 12:59
brettc893 wrote...
That's all fun and games until someone dies from liver failure.anorling wrote...
One could always play a drinking game while watching the movie to make it more fun. One shot of tequila each time you notice a plot hole or inconsistency.
still better then... No, I won't go there
#183
Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 01:03
solidsnake78 wrote...
A little off topic-
Am I the only one who likes Manga but cant stand Anime?
I'd lie if I said I like manga. But at least I can stand it. Anime on the other hand...
#184
Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 01:05
**** what the new players need or whatever. They don't need their hand held every single step of the way for the series.
If a person shows interest in the series, I will gladly show them to the First game. They can start where we all started. They should start where we all started. The whole trilogy is now on all the platforms that are worth a damn (Xbox, PS3, PC) so there's no excuse to not start from the beginning anymore.
#185
Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 01:06
anorling wrote...
solidsnake78 wrote...
A little off topic-
Am I the only one who likes Manga but cant stand Anime?
I'd lie if I said I like manga. But at least I can stand it. Anime on the other hand...
Thats about my thoughts lol, like is maybe a bit too strong of a word.
#186
Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 01:06
That's fine, I'll just use my imagination.anorling wrote...
brettc893 wrote...
That's all fun and games until someone dies from liver failure.anorling wrote...
One could always play a drinking game while watching the movie to make it more fun. One shot of tequila each time you notice a plot hole or inconsistency.
still better then... No, I won't go there
#187
Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 01:06
xAmilli0n wrote...
Regarding paragon lost, I never intended on watching it. But these little things sure are dumb mistakes. It just makes me go "Really BW?" Yeah, they didn't write or make it, but its still their product.
Anyways, I look forward to the nerd rage once it releases.
You would think that Bioware would want some type of creative control over it, if for nothing else than to maintain "artistic integrity".
#188
Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 01:08
anorling wrote...
solidsnake78 wrote...
A little off topic-
Am I the only one who likes Manga but cant stand Anime?
I'd lie if I said I like manga. But at least I can stand it. Anime on the other hand...
Manga is tolerable. I don't like it, but it's readable, more so when they actually put it in the right orientation for the book (call it ethnocentrism, but I hate having to read a damn manga book from right to left.)
Anime is crap, especially when it is based on some form of Western Art. I hated Halo Legends, I'm sure I'll hate this.
Gundam is pretty cool though.
#189
Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 01:12
fiendishchicken wrote...
anorling wrote...
solidsnake78 wrote...
A little off topic-
Am I the only one who likes Manga but cant stand Anime?
I'd lie if I said I like manga. But at least I can stand it. Anime on the other hand...
Manga is tolerable. I don't like it, but it's readable, more so when they actually put it in the right orientation for the book (call it ethnocentrism, but I hate having to read a damn manga book from right to left.)
Anime is crap, especially when it is based on some form of Western Art. I hated Halo Legends, I'm sure I'll hate this.
Gundam is pretty cool though.
Anything with giant robots is cool.
For the most part I'm not fan of either anime or manga, but I have seen good examples of both.
#190
Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 01:21
#191
Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 01:27
Mr.House wrote...
That is no excuse, at all. Bioware should make sure they don't create plotholes and contradictions. There is already 4 in those two minutes.lostmercenary99 wrote...
Mr.House wrote...
Does Bioware even care anymore?
They didn't write it. The people who wrote The Clone wars did.
Who is honestly suprised by this?
1:Vega met Liara depsite ME3 saying otherwise.
2:Citadel is the seat of the Alliance which is false.
3:Sovie in tact when in the games he was blowen to bits and and pieces went flying on the Citadel, however Paragon Lost contradicts this big time.
4:Planet near the Citadel, wtf!?
I could understand if there was some minor stuff, but this is not minor. This is big stuff that is screwed up, in only two mintues.
1. Seeing each other once doesn't make them acquaintances. Maybe neither of them remembered the other. Plus I played ME3, several times. Nowhere did it state that the two 'DIDN'T' know each other. Vega just assumed for a second that she might be hostile before Shepard corrected him. There was no direct talking between them or about each other. Know you're facts. Funimation and Bioware co-developed Paragon Lost at the same time as Mass Effect 3.
2. Arcturus Station is the Capital of the Alliance, yes. But this could be a referecne to humanity getting a SEAT ON THE COUNCIL, which was lost in translation. You're blatantly overreacting.
3. Again, blatantly overreacting. It amounts to a graphical difference. How Sovereign exploded isn't exactly a major plot point. If you want to complain about something, complain about how Shepard is credited with blowing Sovereign up throughout ME2 and 3 when he wasn't even on the Normandy when JOKER took the shot.
4. Are you kidding me? Bekenstein, right in the same nebula as the Citadel, referred to by Diana Allers as being "Right next door to the Citadel. It takes less than a minute to go to Bekenstein from the Citadel in ME2 for Kasumi's loyalty mission.
That's hardly major. You guys are just determined to hate on anything Bioware produces after Dragon Age II disappointed you.
The Old Republic, ME Deception, ME3's ending, From Ashes, Leviathan, you'll probably find some ridiculous reason to hate Omega too. And probably Dragon Age III wont win no matter how good it is.
Modifié par The Grey Nayr, 26 novembre 2012 - 01:37 .
#192
Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 01:43
The Grey Nayr wrote...
1. Seeing each other once doesn't make them acquaintances. Maybe neither of them remembered the other. Plus I played ME3, several times. Nowhere did it state that the two 'DIDN'T' know each other. Vega just assumed for a second that she might be hostile before Shepard corrected him. There was no direct talking between them or about each other. Know you're facts. Funimation and Bioware co-developed Paragon Lost at the same time as Mass Effect 3.
2. Arcturus Station is the Capital of the Alliance, yes. But this could be a referecne to humanity getting a SEAT ON THE COUNCIL, which was lost in translation. You're blatantly overreacting.
3. Again, blatantly overreacting. It amounts to a graphical difference. How Sovereign exploded isn't exactly a major plot point. If you want to complain about something, complain about how Shepard is credited with blowing Sovereign up throughout ME2 and 3 when he wasn't even on the Normandy when JOKER took the shot.
4. Are you kidding me? Bekenstein, right in the same nebula as the Citadel, referred to by Diana Allers as being "Right next door to the Citadel. It takes less than a minute to go to Bekenstein from the Citadel in ME2 for Kasumi's loyalty mission.
That's hardly major. You guys are just determined to hate on anything Bioware produces after Dragon Age II disappointed you.
The Old Republic, ME Deception, ME3's ending, From Ashes, Leviathan, you'll probably find some ridiculous reason to hate Omega too. And probably Dragon Age III wont win no matter how good it is.
1. Vega seemed pretty damn interested in Liara after the other Asari mentioned she worked with Shepard. Doubt that name would just be forgotten.
2. No. If it's a lost in translation then they did shoddy work. If they stated it wrong, it's shoddy work. Having a seat on the Council does not mean that the Alliance's jugular is on the freakin' Citadel.
3. Everyone and thier mother who played ME1 knows Sovereieng went kablooie into smaller pieces. Failing to show this detail means they are doign shoddy work. If there was a comic or animation that took place after Halo 1, I wouldn't expect Installation 04 to be shown intact, BECAUSE IT GOT BLOWN UP!
4. Bekenstein is within spitting distance of the Citadel in terms of the galaxy. That does not mean it's RIGHT THERE. Look at every single cutscene dealing with the Ctiadel and tell me what you don't see. A planet!
None of these details are hard to find out. Simple fact checking, DO IT.
#193
Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 01:43
No offense to anime fans intended.
#194
Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 01:53
The Grey Nayr wrote...
Mr.House wrote...
That is no excuse, at all. Bioware should make sure they don't create plotholes and contradictions. There is already 4 in those two minutes.lostmercenary99 wrote...
Mr.House wrote...
Does Bioware even care anymore?
They didn't write it. The people who wrote The Clone wars did.
Who is honestly suprised by this?
1:Vega met Liara depsite ME3 saying otherwise.
2:Citadel is the seat of the Alliance which is false.
3:Sovie in tact when in the games he was blowen to bits and and pieces went flying on the Citadel, however Paragon Lost contradicts this big time.
4:Planet near the Citadel, wtf!?
I could understand if there was some minor stuff, but this is not minor. This is big stuff that is screwed up, in only two mintues.
1. Seeing each other once doesn't make them acquaintances. Maybe neither of them remembered the other. Plus I played ME3, several times. Nowhere did it state that the two 'DIDN'T' know each other. Vega just assumed for a second that she might be hostile before Shepard corrected him. There was no direct talking between them or about each other. Know you're facts. Funimation and Bioware co-developed Paragon Lost at the same time as Mass Effect 3.
2. Arcturus Station is the Capital of the Alliance, yes. But this could be a referecne to humanity getting a SEAT ON THE COUNCIL, which was lost in translation. You're blatantly overreacting.
3. Again, blatantly overreacting. It amounts to a graphical difference. How Sovereign exploded isn't exactly a major plot point. If you want to complain about something, complain about how Shepard is credited with blowing Sovereign up throughout ME2 and 3 when he wasn't even on the Normandy when JOKER took the shot.
4. Are you kidding me? Bekenstein, right in the same nebula as the Citadel, referred to by Diana Allers as being "Right next door to the Citadel. It takes less than a minute to go to Bekenstein from the Citadel in ME2 for Kasumi's loyalty mission.
That's hardly major. You guys are just determined to hate on anything Bioware produces after Dragon Age II disappointed you.
The Old Republic, ME Deception, ME3's ending, From Ashes, Leviathan, you'll probably find some ridiculous reason to hate Omega too. And probably Dragon Age III wont win no matter how good it is.
Number 1 can be debated, but your arguments for 2-4 are downright terrible, especially 4. You obviously have no concept of physical distance.
#195
Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 01:57
DuffyMJ wrote...
I don't understand anime, I think it's ugly. Canada and the U.S. have vastly superior animation styles than this goofy crap. Why not use the art style from "The Prince of Egypt" (probably the greatest 2d animated movie I've ever seen), Road to El Dorado, Aladdin, Lion King, etc...?
No offense to anime fans intended.
You most likely haven't seen good anime then. I'm not the biggest fan, but some of it is mindblowingly well done.
#196
Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 02:01
DuffyMJ wrote...
I don't understand anime, I think it's ugly. Canada and the U.S. have vastly superior animation styles than this goofy crap. Why not use the art style from "The Prince of Egypt" (probably the greatest 2d animated movie I've ever seen), Road to El Dorado, Aladdin, Lion King, etc...?
No offense to anime fans intended.
Cuz' kids watch it. So anime must be cool and edgy with an hip hop style, forget all the old animation styles now everything must be in anime to sell.
Why nobody made a remake of G.I. Joe in anime i dont know.
Honestly i watch anime but sometimes i think that western animation is jumping on a bandwagon it doesnt need to jump on.
Modifié par Twinzam.V, 26 novembre 2012 - 02:06 .
#197
Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 02:03
And it's obvious that planet can't be Bekenstein. Distance is way to short.
#198
Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 02:15
DuffyMJ wrote...
I don't understand anime, I think it's ugly. Canada and the U.S. have vastly superior animation styles than this goofy crap. Why not use the art style from "The Prince of Egypt" (probably the greatest 2d animated movie I've ever seen), Road to El Dorado, Aladdin, Lion King, etc...?
Dude, this IS Western animation style. This is the same **** as that Ben 10 crap and whatever else is on early morning cartoon tv shows.
Real anime is so much better than this
#199
Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 02:31
#200
Posté 26 novembre 2012 - 02:34
And there are lots of amazing stories told in animes, from a wide variety of genres. Saying "anime is crap" is likely just an expression of lacking experience. If anyone is interested to learn more about what anime hast to offer, there is rather informative thread on it in the Off Topic forum.
Anime related to Bioware games really isn't all that great though, at least so far.





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