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[KwangtungTiger]

EnvyTB075 wrote...

DuffyMJ wrote...

I don't understand anime, I think it's ugly. Canada and the U.S. have vastly superior animation styles than this goofy crap. Why not use the art style from "The Prince of Egypt" (probably the greatest 2d animated movie I've ever seen), Road to El Dorado, Aladdin, Lion King, etc...?

Dude, this IS Western animation style. This is the same **** as that Ben 10 crap and whatever else is on early morning cartoon tv shows.

Real anime is so much better than this

classic anime choice. Im a big follower of anime and have to say that this is some westernized type of crap.

[DuffyMJ]

So the reason bad anime is bad is because it's westernized?

Huh.

I haven't watched cartoons regularly in years, but I'm pretty sure Bugs Bunny and Yogi Bear are much better skilled animation than any anime I've seen. A lot of it is definitely not "western" either since it's subtitled, has Japanese letters/intros, etc.

I mean there's a lot of awful (visual wise) US stuff too like I loved Rugrats and Doug when I was a kid, but the animation was pretty cheap.

Whenever there were animated movies when I was a kid, though, they were always visually amazing. Prince of Egypt, Lion King, Aladdin, etc... Nowadays there's incredible 3d stuff like Wall-E, but I haven't seen a good western-style 2d animated movie in a very long time!

Edit: Even if this is direct-to-video, I think the producers of this film should be ashamed of themselves.  The video game itself spared no expense to make a visually stunning, photo-realistic conversation system (I mean, that was the gimick/selling point of the first game, was it not?)  How in the world can the quality of the product fallen this far?!

Modifié par DuffyMJ, 26 novembre 2012 - 02:59 .

[KwangtungTiger]

DuffyMJ wrote...

So the reason bad anime is bad is because it's westernized?

Huh.

I haven't watched cartoons regularly in years, but I'm pretty sure Bugs Bunny and Yogi Bear are much better skilled animation than any anime I've seen. A lot of it is definitely not "western" either since it's subtitled, has Japanese letters/intros, etc.

I mean there's a lot of awful (visual wise) US stuff too like I loved Rugrats and Doug when I was a kid, but the animation was pretty cheap.

Whenever there were animated movies when I was a kid, though, they were always visually amazing. Prince of Egypt, Lion King, Aladdin, etc... Nowadays there's incredible 3d stuff like Wall-E, but I haven't seen a good western-style 2d animated movie in a very long time!

Edit: Even if this is direct-to-video, I think the producers of this film should be ashamed of themselves.  The video game itself spared no expense to make a visually stunning, photo-realistic conversation system (I mean, that was the gimick/selling point of the first game, was it not?)  How in the world can the quality of the product fallen this far?!

Comparing a full feature film to an anime is alittle unjust. Even some off the best anime dont cost anywhere near as much as some of the movies you eluded to. Most western style cartoons just dont compare to a good anime ( This of course is merely my opinion ). But on the flip side of this of sure do love me some spongebob with my son 

[Yalision]

Holy crap, wow. I didn't believe the original post, but seeing it with my own eyes... sheesh. Where was the creative protection for this franchise?

[yukon fire]

Wow, now this is why Frank O'Connor is both better at his job and a better human being than "The Axis of Idiots" (Hudson, Walters, & Gamble). Unlike them he is committed the overall quality of his franchise, be it books, games, Anime, or live action production. This is now the third Mass Effect prosperity in a row (including the book and ME3) that not only was ridden with errors, but lacked both quality and even the most basic of effort. Their complete lack of care or concern for the material makes Uwe Boll look like Peter Jackson.

Modifié par yukon fire, 26 novembre 2012 - 04:52 .

[EnvyTB075]

DuffyMJ wrote...

So the reason bad anime is bad is because it's westernized?

Huh.

I haven't watched cartoons regularly in years, but I'm pretty sure Bugs Bunny and Yogi Bear are much better skilled animation than any anime I've seen. A lot of it is definitely not "western" either since it's subtitled, has Japanese letters/intros, etc.

I mean there's a lot of awful (visual wise) US stuff too like I loved Rugrats and Doug when I was a kid, but the animation was pretty cheap.

Whenever there were animated movies when I was a kid, though, they were always visually amazing. Prince of Egypt, Lion King, Aladdin, etc... Nowadays there's incredible 3d stuff like Wall-E, but I haven't seen a good western-style 2d animated movie in a very long time!

Edit: Even if this is direct-to-video, I think the producers of this film should be ashamed of themselves.  The video game itself spared no expense to make a visually stunning, photo-realistic conversation system (I mean, that was the gimick/selling point of the first game, was it not?)  How in the world can the quality of the product fallen this far?!

Again, thats not "Anime", thats American Animation. Anime specifically refers to the Japanese style that i referred to in my youtube link. Despite the fact Paragon Lost has a Japanese director, the animation style is specifically Western in nature.

Cartoons like the ones you referenced are not "Anime" per se, despite being animated features, so to use those as examples of "good" Anime is wrong, because its not "Anime".

That and Disneys style is unique unto its own.

KwangtungTiger wrote...

classic anime choice. Im a big follower of anime and have to say that this is some westernized type of crap.

Really really really can't wait for 3.33. Love the original series as well but the visual fidelity of rebuild is just drool worthy. Also a big fan of Zoids, because Zoids.

Oh and another classic

[Jadebaby]

Arcian wrote...

It's like they've completely stopped caring.

Is this really how its supposed to be, BioWare?

[Jadebaby]

Eterna5 wrote...

HiddenInWar wrote...

This thread pretty much sums up why I love BSN users.

It also sums up why I dislike most of them. It's not like most of the people in this thread were going to watch it anyhow, I don't see why they care. 

Can you blame them for not wanting to watch it?

You said it yourself in your next post, not only is it lame. But it's completely lore-breaking.

And yes, the aethestics of Sovereigns corpse matter a lot. Not because they are dragging him off by a ****ing rope. But because he is *intact*. This completely contradicts the ME1 ending.

[Stella-Arc]

I would also like to add that Anderson in ME2 said that by the time they got to the pieces of Sovereign, a majority of him was gone. It was the "main" reason why the Council didn't believe he was a Reaper; there wasn't much left of him to conduct a "thorough" study. Having him intact would make it difficult for the Council to dismiss it. 
It was obviously a geth dreadnought. 

Modifié par Stella-Arc, 26 novembre 2012 - 06:10 .

[Mr.House]

Eterna5 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Eterna shows up defending it, now the others will

I am the Vanguard of the Drones. 

But seriously, I'm not defending anything, I hate Anime and won't bother watching this because it looks lame. I just don't see how the aesthetics of Sovereings corpse being inaacurate is a travesty to the lore. 

If Sovie is not in pieces that means.

The council had a full body to look at and see this is not geth(they could not do this because Sovie was blowen to bits and so much wreakage was taken from people(Cerberus took alot and used some to build EDI, and Bryson also took some hwich started his rereach wich would lead to Leviathan. Sovie being blowen up is in fact important, by him being intact in this movie it contradicts ME1,2,Ascension, Retribution, ME3, Leviathan and deception. By doing that this movie has to be made non canon, if it's not and considered canon then that means EDI could have never been made and Bryson never did his study. No EDI=No ME2 past Collector ship. Nothing past Collector ship, no rest of ME2, which means no ME3. Which also means no Retribution, any dlc.This is not nit picking, nit picking would be saying Liara looks nothing like her in-game look.

Modifié par Mr.House, 26 novembre 2012 - 07:10 .

[yukon fire]

Mr.House wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Eterna shows up defending it, now the others will

I am the Vanguard of the Drones. 

But seriously, I'm not defending anything, I hate Anime and won't bother watching this because it looks lame. I just don't see how the aesthetics of Sovereings corpse being inaacurate is a travesty to the lore. 

If Sovie is not in pieces that means.

The council had a full body to look at and see this is not geth(they could not do this because Sovie was blowen to bits and so much wreakage was taken from people(Cerberus took alot and used some to build EDI, and Bryson also took some hwich started his rereach wich would lead to Leviathan. Sovie being blowen up is in fact important, by him being intact in this movie it contradicts ME1,2,Ascension, Retribution, ME3, Leviathan and deception. By doing that this movie has to be made non canon, if it's not and considered canon then that means EDI could have never been made and Bryson never did his study. No EDI=No ME2 past Collector ship. Nothing past Collector ship, no rest of ME2, which means no ME3. Which also means no Retribution, any dlc.This is not nit picking, nit picking would be saying Liara looks nothing like her in-game look.

And with that, the Jenga blocks fall and everybody loses... First "the book", then the "Action" MP ME3, now an anime that undermines everything, that's three strikes, right?  

[Peranor]

Mr.House wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Eterna shows up defending it, now the others will

I am the Vanguard of the Drones. 

But seriously, I'm not defending anything, I hate Anime and won't bother watching this because it looks lame. I just don't see how the aesthetics of Sovereings corpse being inaacurate is a travesty to the lore. 

If Sovie is not in pieces that means.

The council had a full body to look at and see this is not geth(they could not do this because Sovie was blowen to bits and so much wreakage was taken from people(Cerberus took alot and used some to build EDI, and Bryson also took some hwich started his rereach wich would lead to Leviathan. Sovie being blowen up is in fact important, by him being intact in this movie it contradicts ME1,2,Ascension, Retribution, ME3, Leviathan and deception. By doing that this movie has to be made non canon, if it's not and considered canon then that means EDI could have never been made and Bryson never did his study. No EDI=No ME2 past Collector ship. Nothing past Collector ship, no rest of ME2, which means no ME3. Which also means no Retribution, any dlc.This is not nit picking, nit picking would be saying Liara looks nothing like her in-game look.

So true. Didn't think of that. It makes the mistake so much more then just aesthetics.

[Mcfly616]

Granted, the story inaccuracies are quite pathetic, but I'm not too sure why everybody is taking this so seriously. It's a stupid anime cartoon. Do people flip out when there's a Star Wars lore contradiction in The Clone Wars? No. It's just a cartoon.

Take the games as canon. Take the rest with a grain of salt.

[Omega2079]

Sometimes inconsistencies are made for ease of story telling, especially with a second media. A book, then the movie simplifies things greatly, for example.

So frustrating

[Pottumuusi]

What.

[Peranor]

Pottumuusi wrote...

What.

You could say that

[Lyrandori]

It's pretty bad.

But I got the feeling that if (or by now, perhaps "when") there's a Mass Effect movie, then if it depicts the event of the original game you guys are in for the most vicious lore destruction you'll witness. Wait until they include the Collectors, Omega and Vega in the movie and wait until Sovereign is helped by several other Reapers. And wait until they evacuate people off of the Citadel on the surface of the planet that it orbits, and wait until the Flood gets involved and Master Chief teams up with Shepard at the end.

You guys know Hollywood, s'gonna be fun!

Modifié par Lyrandori, 26 novembre 2012 - 11:49 .

[Cribbian]

Lyrandori wrote...

It's pretty bad.

But I got the feeling that if (or by now, perhaps "when") there's a Mass Effect movie, then if it depicts the event of the original game you guys are in for the most vicious lore destruction you'll witness. Wait until they include the Collectors, Omega and Vega in the movie and wait until Sovereign is helped by several other Reapers. And wait until they evacuate people off of the Citadel on the surface of the planet that it orbits, and wait until the Flood gets involved and Master Chief teams up with Shepard at the end.

You guys know Hollywood, s'gonna be fun!

Help us Development Hell, you are our only hope.

[DesioPL]

Wait ! I don't understand one thing.

In this half of movie, Liara mentioned, that she talk with Sovereign. So in ME1, canonical is Liara in this chamber in Virmire ?

[Grubas]

Do you think they left so many plotholes to explain them in a animated series, piloted by this anime?

[AkodoRyu]

I rarely see anime based on something consistent to that something. Nothing new in this case, but then again, I don't watch as much of it as ten-fifteen years ago, so not sure if anything changed in this industry.

[Armass81]

Maybe the japanese animators missed the notes.

[Grubas]

Armass81 wrote...

Maybe the japanese animators missed the notes.

What notes? You know that Casey himself (proof-) read Deception?

[spirosz]

They had to speculate when writing the script.