So, was ME3 ending planned from the beginning? Did developers actually have the vision of the ending while they worked on ME1? Maybe they did, maybe they didn't, and it doesn't actually matter what did they say in the interviews...
...Thinking about this, and about Mass Effect Story in general, I created this video.
Sha'ira's Prophecy.
Was ME3 ending planned from the beginning? [Sha'ira's Prophecy]
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Posté 25 novembre 2012 - 06:52
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It was planned according to this video.
Well the dark energy thing was the original plot, but indoctrination was their fall back in case something happened. You always have a contingency plan just in case. Not to mention there was hints of indoctrination before the first game was even released.
Well the dark energy thing was the original plot, but indoctrination was their fall back in case something happened. You always have a contingency plan just in case. Not to mention there was hints of indoctrination before the first game was even released.
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Posté 25 novembre 2012 - 06:53
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Seival, you have truly outdone yourself.
This is your best video yet.
This is your best video yet.
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Posté 25 novembre 2012 - 06:56
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That's, uh, not from the games. A quick google search shows it being from a Planetscape game.
EDIT: Though OP didn't say it was. It was just .. okay. Got it kinda?
EDIT: Though OP didn't say it was. It was just .. okay. Got it kinda?
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Posté 25 novembre 2012 - 06:56
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i will chk out this video later, am watching sidestrafe fight in some knight game.
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Posté 25 novembre 2012 - 06:56
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Is that actual dialogue? Because this is the first time I've hardt it.
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Posté 25 novembre 2012 - 07:07
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Nope.
Even the writers at BW themselves say they did not have the end of the trilogy planned and largely made it up as they went.
On a side note, I did enjoy your video. Only thing, that voice sounds kinda creepy, but the "prophecy" aspect of it was pretty cool.
Even the writers at BW themselves say they did not have the end of the trilogy planned and largely made it up as they went.
On a side note, I did enjoy your video. Only thing, that voice sounds kinda creepy, but the "prophecy" aspect of it was pretty cool.
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Posté 25 novembre 2012 - 07:10
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They didn't have the ending in mind until after ME2 released.
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Posté 25 novembre 2012 - 07:10
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10/10 well done seival...you are an artist
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Posté 25 novembre 2012 - 07:12
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No, because if they did Sovereign wouldn't have needed Saren to open the Citadel and the Citadel relay would've been opened because there's a freakin' AI in the Citadel's systems!
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Posté 25 novembre 2012 - 07:14
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watched the real discussion with shaira on youtube, in my language and in english... none of those words are ever mentioned by shaira where the f*ck did you get that from?!??!?!
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Posté 25 novembre 2012 - 07:16
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Ticonderoga117 wrote...
No, because if they did Sovereign wouldn't have needed Saren to open the Citadel and the Citadel relay would've been opened because there's a freakin' AI in the Citadel's systems!
Yea, but it's an AI that has no real physical platform outside the Reapers. Even if they did plan the Catalyst, which is doubtful, it being on the Citadel doesn't invalidate Sovereign's efforts.
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Posté 25 novembre 2012 - 07:20
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Bioware's plan for ME as a trilogy can be summed up as...
- Shepard finds out about the Reapers
- Shepard stops the Reapers.
As for your video. Whats up with making Sha'ira sound like a creepy old witch? Where did you get these lines from anyway?
- Shepard finds out about the Reapers
- Shepard stops the Reapers.
As for your video. Whats up with making Sha'ira sound like a creepy old witch? Where did you get these lines from anyway?
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Posté 25 novembre 2012 - 07:20
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MegaSovereign wrote...
Yea, but it's an AI that has no real physical platform outside the Reapers. Even if they did plan the Catalyst, which is doubtful, it being on the Citadel doesn't invalidate Sovereign's efforts.
The Citadel. It existed before the first Reaper, so it doesn't need them to exist. He completely invalidates the Prothean's work to help safeguard our cycle. And let's just say that with the Reapers in hibernating mode, he doesn't have the capability to fix the damage they did. Well then he can wake them up, get more processing power, and then fix the bit of code the Protheans changed. Suddenly boom, Reapers.
Hell, why is Sovereign even needed if there's an AI right in the seat of power for the galaxy?
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Posté 25 novembre 2012 - 07:23
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MegaSovereign wrote...
Ticonderoga117 wrote...
No, because if they did Sovereign wouldn't have needed Saren to open the Citadel and the Citadel relay would've been opened because there's a freakin' AI in the Citadel's systems!
Yea, but it's an AI that has no real physical platform outside the Reapers. Even if they did plan the Catalyst, which is doubtful, it being on the Citadel doesn't invalidate Sovereign's efforts.
if we put it this way, why do we need the keepers to transmit the signal in me1 in the first place? the keapers were the key to their arrival in the first game - sovereign was just "plan-b".
if the catalyst was an invisible part of me1 plot, why can it control a reaper, but not the citadel - wich is reaper tech.
the logical conclusion is, that the catalayst was implemented in me3, to provide an "explanation" for the reapers motives. imo, the catalyst was not part of the me1 plot or "hidden" backstory. the reapers were the ones in charge and were doing their thing on their own.
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Posté 25 novembre 2012 - 07:32
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Ticonderoga117 wrote...
MegaSovereign wrote...
Yea, but it's an AI that has no real physical platform outside the Reapers. Even if they did plan the Catalyst, which is doubtful, it being on the Citadel doesn't invalidate Sovereign's efforts.
The Citadel. It existed before the first Reaper, so it doesn't need them to exist. He completely invalidates the Prothean's work to help safeguard our cycle. And let's just say that with the Reapers in hibernating mode, he doesn't have the capability to fix the damage they did. Well then he can wake them up, get more processing power, and then fix the bit of code the Protheans changed. Suddenly boom, Reapers.
Hell, why is Sovereign even needed if there's an AI right in the seat of power for the galaxy?
Um, I've never read or heard that before. I'm pretty sure that's not right.
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Posté 25 novembre 2012 - 07:37
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Thanks to everyone who liked the video 
I really tried to do my best... It could be done better of course, but that's beyond my capabilities.
I really tried to do my best... It could be done better of course, but that's beyond my capabilities.
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Posté 25 novembre 2012 - 07:38
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Oh boy, a Seival thread.
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Posté 25 novembre 2012 - 07:39
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Seival on his troll rant again...
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Posté 25 novembre 2012 - 07:40
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MegaSovereign wrote...
Ticonderoga117 wrote...
MegaSovereign wrote...
Yea, but it's an AI that has no real physical platform outside the Reapers. Even if they did plan the Catalyst, which is doubtful, it being on the Citadel doesn't invalidate Sovereign's efforts.
The Citadel. It existed before the first Reaper, so it doesn't need them to exist. He completely invalidates the Prothean's work to help safeguard our cycle. And let's just say that with the Reapers in hibernating mode, he doesn't have the capability to fix the damage they did. Well then he can wake them up, get more processing power, and then fix the bit of code the Protheans changed. Suddenly boom, Reapers.
Hell, why is Sovereign even needed if there's an AI right in the seat of power for the galaxy?
Um, I've never read or heard that before. I'm pretty sure that's not right.
The Citadel was not, in fact, constructed by the Protheans; they were simply the last race to make use of the station before the asari arrived. It, and the mass relays, are the creations of the Reapers, and were built to help facilitate their cycle of galactic genocide. The Reapers were also responsible for the placement of the keepers on the station, in order that the occupying races would not discover the Citadel's key functions. The station is actually an inactive mass relay leading to dark space, designed as an elaborate trap so the Reapers can wipe out the heart of galactic civilization and leadership in a single, devastating strike.
from the mass effect wiki
the citadel is reaper tech - it was build by the reapers or at least by the leviathans, who the reapers are based on.
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Posté 25 novembre 2012 - 07:40
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They made this up as they went along. The same thing occurred with Battlestar Galactica.
No one and I mean no one would have put up with this nonsensical ending for FIVE years.
No one and I mean no one would have put up with this nonsensical ending for FIVE years.
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Posté 25 novembre 2012 - 07:41
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Cthulhu42 wrote...
Oh boy, a Seival thread.
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Posté 25 novembre 2012 - 07:44
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Dr_Extrem wrote...
MegaSovereign wrote...
Ticonderoga117 wrote...
MegaSovereign wrote...
Yea, but it's an AI that has no real physical platform outside the Reapers. Even if they did plan the Catalyst, which is doubtful, it being on the Citadel doesn't invalidate Sovereign's efforts.
The Citadel. It existed before the first Reaper, so it doesn't need them to exist. He completely invalidates the Prothean's work to help safeguard our cycle. And let's just say that with the Reapers in hibernating mode, he doesn't have the capability to fix the damage they did. Well then he can wake them up, get more processing power, and then fix the bit of code the Protheans changed. Suddenly boom, Reapers.
Hell, why is Sovereign even needed if there's an AI right in the seat of power for the galaxy?
Um, I've never read or heard that before. I'm pretty sure that's not right.The Citadel was not, in fact, constructed by the Protheans; they were simply the last race to make use of the station before the asari arrived. It, and the mass relays, are the creations of the Reapers, and were built to help facilitate their cycle of galactic genocide. The Reapers were also responsible for the placement of the keepers on the station, in order that the occupying races would not discover the Citadel's key functions. The station is actually an inactive mass relay leading to dark space, designed as an elaborate trap so the Reapers can wipe out the heart of galactic civilization and leadership in a single, devastating strike.
from the mass effect wiki
the citadel is reaper tech - it was build by the reapers or at least by the leviathans, who the reapers are based on.
I remember Sovereign saying - that Relays are their technology and we are evolving in path which they desire...
