Seival wrote...
...Well, and who else is able to tell prophecies in ME except Sha'ira? She is the only one in the trilogy who can be called Oracle.
You're right, there's no one else.
Except you're not because Sha'ira doesn't prophesize anything.
Was ME3 ending planned from the beginning? [Sha'ira's Prophecy]
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#451
Posté 10 février 2013 - 06:08
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You're right, there's no one else.
Except you're not because Sha'ira doesn't prophesize anything.
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Posté 10 février 2013 - 06:13
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Seival wrote...
The speech from Planescape fits ME narrative (and especially the ending) so perfectly, that sometimes I think that the speech was one of the things that inspired ME writers. The fact that the speech was voiced by Jennifer Hale makes the assumption even more interesting
...Well, and who else is able to tell prophecies in ME except Sha'ira? She is the only one in the trilogy who can be called Oracle.
Only Shaira said nothing about the ending, or even something about Shep's future except there is going to be one.
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Posté 10 février 2013 - 06:15
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HagarIshay wrote...
Seival wrote...
The speech from Planescape fits ME narrative (and especially the ending) so perfectly, that sometimes I think that the speech was one of the things that inspired ME writers. The fact that the speech was voiced by Jennifer Hale makes the assumption even more interesting
...Well, and who else is able to tell prophecies in ME except Sha'ira? She is the only one in the trilogy who can be called Oracle.
Only Shaira said nothing about the ending, or even something about Shep's future except there is going to be one.
It still counts, and that's what makes this trilogy so perfect.
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Posté 10 février 2013 - 06:19
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OperatingWookie wrote...
It still counts, and that's what makes this trilogy so perfect.
Counts for what? Shaira never said anything besides the obvious.
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Posté 10 février 2013 - 06:22
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HagarIshay wrote...
OperatingWookie wrote...
It still counts, and that's what makes this trilogy so perfect.
Counts for what? Shaira never said anything besides the obvious.
Speculation. It's a wonderful thing.
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Posté 10 février 2013 - 06:25
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OperatingWookie wrote...
Speculation. It's a wonderful thing.
Again, Unless telling you ME3 would have had an ending brings speculations into your mind, then I don't understand what's there to speculate.
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Posté 10 février 2013 - 06:27
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HagarIshay wrote...
OperatingWookie wrote...
Speculation. It's a wonderful thing.
Again, Unless telling you ME3 would have had an ending brings speculations into your mind, then I don't understand what's there to speculate.
I'm mostly just testing my new sig by posting honestly.
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Posté 10 février 2013 - 06:29
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Seival wrote...
HagarIshay wrote...
Um... What does ME3's ending has to do with Shaira's "prophecy"?
The speech from Planescape fits ME narrative (and especially the ending) so perfectly, that sometimes I think that the speech was one of the things that inspired ME writers. The fact that the speech was voiced by Jennifer Hale makes the assumption even more interesting
...Well, and who else is able to tell prophecies in ME except Sha'ira? She is the only one in the trilogy who can be called Oracle.
If you are trying to say that the Planescape Torment work inspired the writers in ME, then you may be correct.
However, that does not mean that the ending was planned from the beginning. Inspiration does not equal planning. You can get ideas from inspiration while planning but that is not evidence that the end was planned all along.
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Posté 10 février 2013 - 06:30
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OperatingWookie wrote...
I'm mostly just testing my new sig by posting honestly.
Then I'm one of your test subjects??
How can you do this to me? Did you even think about how I'd feel about this before you posted?! you are so mean!!! I'll never forgive!!
NEVER!!!!!!!!!!
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Posté 10 février 2013 - 06:42
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It's incredibly vague. I honestly wasn't reminded of ME3 at all.Seival wrote...
HagarIshay wrote...
Um... What does ME3's ending has to do with Shaira's "prophecy"?
The speech from Planescape fits ME narrative (and especially the ending) so perfectly, that sometimes I think that the speech was one of the things that inspired ME writers. The fact that the speech was voiced by Jennifer Hale makes the assumption even more interesting
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Posté 10 février 2013 - 06:47
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HagarIshay wrote...
Seival wrote...
The speech from Planescape fits ME narrative (and especially the ending) so perfectly, that sometimes I think that the speech was one of the things that inspired ME writers. The fact that the speech was voiced by Jennifer Hale makes the assumption even more interesting
...Well, and who else is able to tell prophecies in ME except Sha'ira? She is the only one in the trilogy who can be called Oracle.
Only Shaira said nothing about the ending, or even something about Shep's future except there is going to be one.
No, she didn't. But it would be great if she did...
...Maybe she sent Shepard a video-letter? It was so private that BioWare decided not to show it to players
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Posté 10 février 2013 - 06:48
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OperatingWookie wrote...
HagarIshay wrote...
Seival wrote...
The speech from Planescape fits ME narrative (and especially the ending) so perfectly, that sometimes I think that the speech was one of the things that inspired ME writers. The fact that the speech was voiced by Jennifer Hale makes the assumption even more interesting
...Well, and who else is able to tell prophecies in ME except Sha'ira? She is the only one in the trilogy who can be called Oracle.
Only Shaira said nothing about the ending, or even something about Shep's future except there is going to be one.
It still counts, and that's what makes this trilogy so perfect.
So perfect that Bioware didnt bother fixing her bug in ME2....
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Posté 10 février 2013 - 06:50
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Yeah, I have to agree with this.Drewton wrote...
It's incredibly vague. I honestly wasn't reminded of ME3 at all.
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Posté 10 février 2013 - 06:51
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Seival wrote...
HagarIshay wrote...
Seival wrote...
The speech from Planescape fits ME narrative (and especially the ending) so perfectly, that sometimes I think that the speech was one of the things that inspired ME writers. The fact that the speech was voiced by Jennifer Hale makes the assumption even more interesting
...Well, and who else is able to tell prophecies in ME except Sha'ira? She is the only one in the trilogy who can be called Oracle.
Only Shaira said nothing about the ending, or even something about Shep's future except there is going to be one.
No, she didn't. But it would be great if she did...
...Maybe she sent Shepard a video-letter? It was so private that BioWare decided not to show it to players
Coulda,woulda.shoulda, this is the realm of head canon whice makes thing you hate like MEHEM,succesful refusal and IT just as relevent.
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Posté 10 février 2013 - 06:53
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Seival wrote...
No, she didn't. But it would be great if she did...
...Maybe she sent Shepard a video-letter? It was so private that BioWare decided not to show it to players
That'll be great... Only it has nothing to do with the prophecy, or even the game besides personal headcanon.
Besides, if the letter is THAT private then believe me, the ending would be the last thing Shaira will write in it...
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Posté 10 février 2013 - 06:55
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I got a private video-letter confirming IT
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Posté 10 février 2013 - 07:06
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Drewton wrote...
I got a private video-letter confirming IT
Is this proof IT?
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Posté 10 février 2013 - 07:15
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Yes it proofs it but it's too private to revealThe Night Mammoth wrote...
Drewton wrote...
I got a private video-letter confirming IT
Is this proof IT?
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Posté 10 février 2013 - 07:44
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I vote this thread be locked.
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Posté 10 février 2013 - 07:48
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Sha'ira sent Shepard a private 'video letter' saying the same thing.
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Posté 11 février 2013 - 09:06
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mvaning wrote...
Seival wrote...
HagarIshay wrote...
Um... What does ME3's ending has to do with Shaira's "prophecy"?
The speech from Planescape fits ME narrative (and especially the ending) so perfectly, that sometimes I think that the speech was one of the things that inspired ME writers. The fact that the speech was voiced by Jennifer Hale makes the assumption even more interesting
...Well, and who else is able to tell prophecies in ME except Sha'ira? She is the only one in the trilogy who can be called Oracle.
If you are trying to say that the Planescape Torment work inspired the writers in ME, then you may be correct.
However, that does not mean that the ending was planned from the beginning. Inspiration does not equal planning. You can get ideas from inspiration while planning but that is not evidence that the end was planned all along.
No, it doesn't. But it inspires the corresponding thoughts on the matter
It would be interesting to hear the full official response regarding the ME trilogy narrative planing though.
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Posté 11 février 2013 - 09:10
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Devs state that there was originally going to be a plot related to Dark Energy slowly destroying the universe, and that the Reapers were the only way of stopping it. At the end of ME3, the player has the choice of letting the Reapers continue their work (essentially Refuse as it is now), or destroying the Reapers but then being faced with the challenge of overcoming the Dark Energy Crisis (like a no-casualties Destroy). The Catalyst and Crucible were shoehorned in near the end of ME3's plot development.
You can find lines in ME2 that would have foreshadowed the Dark Energy Crisis, particularly at Freedom's Progress, Haestrom, and Tali's Loyalty Mission. Haestrom's abnormal sun would have been a key point for ME3, as it was an example of "what was to come".
You can find lines in ME2 that would have foreshadowed the Dark Energy Crisis, particularly at Freedom's Progress, Haestrom, and Tali's Loyalty Mission. Haestrom's abnormal sun would have been a key point for ME3, as it was an example of "what was to come".
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Posté 11 février 2013 - 09:12
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The Night Mammoth wrote...
Sha'ira sent Shepard a private 'video letter' saying the same thing.
Nah, the letter was so NSFW that they cut it from the game to avoid causing psychological traumas to some of the weak-willed players.
HagarIshay wrote...
Seival wrote...
No, she didn't. But it would be great if she did...
...Maybe she sent Shepard a video-letter? It was so private that BioWare decided not to show it to players
That'll be great... Only it has nothing to do with the prophecy, or even the game besides personal headcanon.
Besides, if the letter is THAT private then believe me, the ending would be the last thing Shaira will write in it...
define "ending"
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Posté 11 février 2013 - 09:27
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Epsilon330 wrote...
Devs state that there was originally going to be a plot related to Dark Energy slowly destroying the universe, and that the Reapers were the only way of stopping it. At the end of ME3, the player has the choice of letting the Reapers continue their work (essentially Refuse as it is now), or destroying the Reapers but then being faced with the challenge of overcoming the Dark Energy Crisis (like a no-casualties Destroy). The Catalyst and Crucible were shoehorned in near the end of ME3's plot development.
You can find lines in ME2 that would have foreshadowed the Dark Energy Crisis, particularly at Freedom's Progress, Haestrom, and Tali's Loyalty Mission. Haestrom's abnormal sun would have been a key point for ME3, as it was an example of "what was to come".
Dark Energy plot could be easily invented for some new stories in MEU.
Why provide the clues about that plot in ME games?... Well, and why not? This doesn't mean Dark Energy plot was planned exactly for ME trilogy ending.
