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[bydoritos]

IndigoVitare wrote...
Again, please tell me why Origin is so much worse than Steam.

this.
please can someone tell me too how is origin so much worse than steam?


Don't get me wrong, i don't like origin too, but I hate origin for the same reasons why I hate steam.
(why do I need a third party software to run the game that I bought) I do love steam sales though, but origin does some amazing sales as well.
hell they even gave bf1942 for free... (i know it's an old game, but it's classic... if you have played that 10 years ago, you probably still have a soft spot on your heart for that game.)

they also gave it for free medal of honor airborne  (as part of a marketing ploy for medal of honor warfighter.)

I know that in some places, origins does have a few issues that steam does not.
like the friend list that keeps going offline.... that's annoying. however, steam also do have a few problems that I hate it.

like, to go in offline mode.. YOU HAVE TO BE ONLINE (lolwut?) what should I do if my internet goes down when my PC is turn off? play the stupid minigames that windows have?? 
And I know that some of you will say, "HA origin have the same problem... and I would agree, however, I do have a few game on origin that DOES NOT require origin to be online, so it's not like I need for every single game ( so in the case of those games, I don't need to have origin running..

like in the case of bulletstorm.. I have on origin, but do I need to use origin to play that game? no....
Dead Space 2, I also have on Origin, do I need this stupid program to play my game? NO...
Dragon Age origins (and I think DA 2 as well) don't need origin.
edit:
Mass effect 1 and 2 - don't need origin for me to play.

On steam however, you need to be online, and if you wanna play while your internet is offline, you have to be online to enable the offline mode (which is the stupid thing I ever saw, and I know that it's probably for security reasons, but you know what? I don't care it's annoying).

And yes, I do know that most games that EA is realeasing now you have to use origin.
but guess what? this is the exactly same thing steam does with their own games.
Wanna play HL2? can't do it without steam...
Wanna play Portal 2? Can't do it without steam..
wanna play ANY GAME FROM VALVE? can't do it without steam....

So yeah, while I hate origin, I don't see any reasons of why Steam is better.
So if the valve fanboys in here are willing to give me some information on why do you love so much steam, please share with us..

also, I apologise for my poor english 

/rant

Modifié par bydoritos, 25 novembre 2012 - 11:28 .

[Chevyboy88]

It really needs explaining as to why Origin isn't even in the same league as Steam? Really?

[K_Os2]

IndigoVitare wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

IndigoVitare wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

IndigoVitare wrote...

Origin is not THAT bad..

yes it is.

Please tell me how.

are you serious? you must be new here on bsn. If not, then I don't believe you have Origin (PC) or you just want to argue because you had a bad day...

A commendable attempt at misdirection, but a complete failure to respond to my request.

Again, please tell me why Origin is so much worse than Steam.

Actually, I'd like to see his arguement as well. I'm a user of both services since their respective launches and coming from him it's just senseless bashing by a 12 year old. Only legitimate complaints are pretty much as some stated earlier is that sales are non-existant, and a few other but beyond that it's pretty much personal preference.

[bydoritos]

Chevyboy88 wrote...

It really needs explaining as to why Origin isn't even in the same league as Steam? Really?

yes.. can you clarify this question for us? because I really don't see why Steam is so much better than origin.

[Seifer006]

Hymmnos wrote...

Blame EA and their Origin.


You can run it through Steam though by going here:

Then select the .exe

Trust me. I tried it. It doesn't always work. Don't ask me why...

[Seifer006]

IndigoVitare wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

IndigoVitare wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

IndigoVitare wrote...

Origin is not THAT bad..

yes it is.

Please tell me how.

are you serious? you must be new here on bsn. If not, then I don't believe you have Origin (PC) or you just want to argue because you had a bad day...

A commendable attempt at misdirection, but a complete failure to respond to my request.

Again, please tell me why Origin is so much worse than Steam.

LOOOOOOL HAHAHAHHA

okay: here's some homework for ya

Forums Search & type: Origin

it's a commendable attempt

[Seifer006]

k1ngl1ves wrote...

PC Master Race.

Amen

[Chevyboy88]

bydoritos wrote...

Chevyboy88 wrote...

It really needs explaining as to why Origin isn't even in the same league as Steam? Really?

yes.. can you clarify this question for us? because I really don't see why Steam is so much better than origin.

I probably could but opinions are like... well you know, everyone has one. Steam does everything Origin does but better in every regard, research into it a bit if you like but Origin does nothing that Steam can't. Steam also has many features Origin does not, let's not even talk about the sales Steam provides.

I should say I don't really care for Steam all that much, but it really is vastly superior to Crapagin in every way.

[bydoritos]

Seifer006 wrote...

IndigoVitare wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

IndigoVitare wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

IndigoVitare wrote...

Origin is not THAT bad..

yes it is.

Please tell me how.

are you serious? you must be new here on bsn. If not, then I don't believe you have Origin (PC) or you just want to argue because you had a bad day...

A commendable attempt at misdirection, but a complete failure to respond to my request.

Again, please tell me why Origin is so much worse than Steam.

LOOOOOOL HAHAHAHHA

okay: here's some homework for ya

Forums Search & type: Origin

it's a commendable attempt

so basicaly you are giving him the means to read mostly troll posts from people that didn't made one single
constructive argument against origin an in favor of steam.
because trust me, I read this forums and mostly of the complaints that people have of origin, can be apply against steam as well.

[Seifer006]

Chevyboy88 wrote...

It really needs explaining as to why Origin isn't even in the same league as Steam? Really?

Not only have I ( and many others) made so many threads on BSN MP. It's a joke to even waste time explaining why you need to defend origin on why it's GOOD

[Seifer006]

bydoritos wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

IndigoVitare wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

IndigoVitare wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

IndigoVitare wrote...

Origin is not THAT bad..

yes it is.

Please tell me how.

are you serious? you must be new here on bsn. If not, then I don't believe you have Origin (PC) or you just want to argue because you had a bad day...

A commendable attempt at misdirection, but a complete failure to respond to my request.

Again, please tell me why Origin is so much worse than Steam.

LOOOOOOL HAHAHAHHA

okay: here's some homework for ya

Forums Search & type: Origin

it's a commendable attempt

so basicaly you are giving him the means to read mostly troll posts from people that didn't made one single
constructive argument against origin an in favor of steam.
because trust me, I read this forums and mostly of the complaints that people have of origin, can be apply against steam as well.

lol

bye. I rather not waste my time typing a Diseration on why I need to defend this. I just received the Bloodpack Banner. I'm happyB)

[HolyAvenger]

To be fair, I do think Steam's monopoly needed to be challenged. Competition is good for consumers.

Origin does need to improve a lot though (although its getting there, its better than it used to be).

[Chevyboy88]

Seifer006 wrote...

Chevyboy88 wrote...

It really needs explaining as to why Origin isn't even in the same league as Steam? Really?

Not only have I ( and many others) made so many threads on BSN MP. It's a joke to even waste time explaining why you need to defend origin on why it's GOOD

But like, Origin is da best!

I actually disliked it so much I returned BF3 when it was released because it required it (forgot to cancel the pre order frrom amazon) and I love the ME series too much to not play one. However this will be my last EA product that requires Origin and I already boycott everything to do with EA that's not from Bioware.

[bydoritos]

Chevyboy88 wrote...

bydoritos wrote...

Chevyboy88 wrote...

It really needs explaining as to why Origin isn't even in the same league as Steam? Really?

yes.. can you clarify this question for us? because I really don't see why Steam is so much better than origin.

I probably could but opinions are like... well you know, everyone has one. Steam does everything Origin does but better in every regard, research into it a bit if you like but Origin does nothing that Steam can't. Steam also has many features Origin does not, let's not even talk about the sales Steam provides.

I should say I don't really care for Steam all that much, but it really is vastly superior to Crapagin in every way.

Yeah steam sales are awesome, but here's something.
if you look, you can find even cheaper in other sites like greenmangaming 
GOG... gamersgate... they also have amazing prices.
so this is not exclusive from Steam.
and Origin also does have a few good sales once in awhile.. not like Steam, ofcourse.

But it's not like because of the sales alone we will forget EVERY SINGLE PROBLEM  that steam has.

so yeah, AFAIK from reading this thread and many others, all I saw was just people saying bad things about origin
just because they have preference for Steam, and that isnot a constructive argument against origin.

Modifié par bydoritos, 25 novembre 2012 - 11:47 .

[Major Durza]

EA Needs to get people to use Origin *somehow*, so they decided to use game exclusivity instead of quality.
Indeed, they are not trying to compete with Steam. They know they would fail.

[Chevyboy88]

HolyAvenger wrote...

To be fair, I do think Steam's monopoly needed to be challenged. Competition is good for consumers.

Origin does need to improve a lot though (although its getting there, its better than it used to be).

I dislike monopolies however calling steam one is while technically true, a bit silly since they offer amazing deals, impecable service and Valve is one of the last great hopes for PC gaming. The big dislike I have with them (and all services alike) is that at the core, it is still DRM.

Edit. To clarify, to me a monoply hinders service in some manner, be it through price or through lack of quality product(s).

Modifié par Chevyboy88, 25 novembre 2012 - 11:48 .

[Seifer006]

Chevyboy88 wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

Chevyboy88 wrote...

It really needs explaining as to why Origin isn't even in the same league as Steam? Really?

Not only have I ( and many others) made so many threads on BSN MP. It's a joke to even waste time explaining why you need to defend origin on why it's GOOD

But like, Origin is da best!

I actually disliked it so much I returned BF3 when it was released because it required it (forgot to cancel the pre order frrom amazon) and I love the ME series too much to not play one. However this will be my last EA product that requires Origin and I already boycott everything to do with EA that's not from Bioware.

This. So Much This.

Yeah, Im not buying another EA title that requires Origin.

Im all for it (competition is good) since this requires Steam to only improve products. But EA servers are POS, and you lose precious equipment that you worked hard on...........especially in-game DC'd. Also, Origins Custmer Service is a J.O.K.E. i wonder if anyone knows what the F____ they're doing?

[TrollBerzerker01]

bydoritos wrote...

Don't get me wrong, i don't like origin too, but I hate origin for the same reasons why I hate steam.
(why do I need a third party software to run the game that I bought) I do love steam sales though, but origin does some amazing sales as well.

Because in the age of the Internet there has to be DRM. Remember the Dreamcast? Remember how piracy basically killed that console?

Steam and Origin are the most fair forms of DRM out there. Or would you rather have a limited number of installations per CD key? Because I dunno about you, but having to log into Steam (where I can chat with my friends and browse the internet without having to alt-tab the game) is a lot better than that.

In terms of Steam vs Origin, Origin is simply an inferior, buggier version of Steam. Both are still better than GFWL though.

[Seifer006]

HolyAvenger wrote...

To be fair, I do think Steam's monopoly needed to be challenged. Competition is good for consumers.

Origin does need to improve a lot though (although its getting there, its better than it used to be).

I'm all for that. Steam needs to be "challenge" it'll give them accountability to only make their products good. And hopefully continually stay good.

But EA pisses me off so much. They need to allow their Dev (BW) for example to make their products Quality wise instead of "quanity" which hurts us fans & Bioware's Name reputation.

*sigh* i hate EA...

[HolyAvenger]

Chevyboy88 wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

To be fair, I do think Steam's monopoly needed to be challenged. Competition is good for consumers.

Origin does need to improve a lot though (although its getting there, its better than it used to be).

I dislike monopolies however calling steam one is while technically true, a bit silly since they offer amazing deals, impecable service and Valve is one of the last great hopes for PC gaming. The big dislike I have with them (and all services alike) is that at the core, it is still DRM.

Edit. To clarify, to me a monoply hinders service in some manner, be it through price or through lack of quality product(s).

The whole point is that Origin's very existence forces them to keep offering those amazing deals and great service, as otherwise they could get lazy and complacent if they didn't have any serious competitors. 

[IndigoVitare]

Seifer006 wrote...

LOOOOOOL HAHAHAHHA

okay: here's some homework for ya

Forums Search & type: Origin

it's a commendable attempt

I thought this might be your response. You don't actually have any arguments do you?

Rather than respond, you try to misdirect. When pushed you try to pass the duty off to another.

I'm not asking the forums why they don't like Origin. I'm asking YOU. I want to know what YOUR reasons are for disliking Origin. If you cannot give those reasons you have absoltely no business making a thread complaining about Origin. Back up your claims, or at least be prepared to.

I'll make it easier: Give me just one reason. You should be able to do that in a single sentence. A few minutes of your time; no more than what you've already spent trying to hide behind the words of others.

[Seifer006]

IndigoVitare wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

LOOOOOOL HAHAHAHHA

okay: here's some homework for ya

Forums Search & type: Origin

it's a commendable attempt

I thought this might be your response. You don't actually have any arguments do you?

Rather than respond, you try to misdirect. When pushed you try to pass the duty off to another.

I'm not asking the forums why they don't like Origin. I'm asking YOU. I want to know what YOUR reasons are for disliking Origin. If you cannot give those reasons you have absoltely no business making a thread complaining about Origin. Back up your claims, or at least be prepared to.

I'll make it easier: Give me just one reason. You should be able to do that in a single sentence. A few minutes of your time; no more than what you've already spent trying to hide behind the words of others.

Modifié par Seifer006, 26 novembre 2012 - 12:12 .

[Seifer006]

Seifer006 wrote...

IndigoVitare wrote...

Seifer006 wrote...

LOOOOOOL HAHAHAHHA

okay: here's some homework for ya

Forums Search & type: Origin

it's a commendable attempt

Give me just one reason. .

[TrollBerzerker01]

IndigoVitare wrote...

I thought this might be your response. You don't actually have any arguments do you?

Rather than respond, you try to misdirect. When pushed you try to pass the duty off to another.

I'm not asking the forums why they don't like Origin. I'm asking YOU. I want to know what YOUR reasons are for disliking Origin. If you cannot give those reasons you have absoltely no business making a thread complaining about Origin. Back up your claims, or at least be prepared to.

I'll make it easier: Give me just one reason. You should be able to do that in a single sentence. A few minutes of your time; no more than what you've already spent trying to hide behind the words of others.

Okay, you want to know why I don't like Origin?

The service stinks. My friends and I have to log in and out frequently just to be able to see and talk to each other online. Steam's friend list is considerably better.

Origin's game servers also have more down time than Steam. By which I mean it has down time and Steam does not.

Also I seriously challenge you to think of a multiplayer game which runs off of Steam for its matchmaking service which has more problems than ME3.

[DeathIsHere]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Chevyboy88 wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

To be fair, I do think Steam's monopoly needed to be challenged. Competition is good for consumers.

Origin does need to improve a lot though (although its getting there, its better than it used to be).

I dislike monopolies however calling steam one is while technically true, a bit silly since they offer amazing deals, impecable service and Valve is one of the last great hopes for PC gaming. The big dislike I have with them (and all services alike) is that at the core, it is still DRM.

Edit. To clarify, to me a monoply hinders service in some manner, be it through price or through lack of quality product(s).

The whole point is that Origin's very existence forces them to keep offering those amazing deals and great service, as otherwise they could get lazy and complacent if they didn't have any serious competitors. 

You can't say that makes Origin as good as Steam though, it doesn't. Steam was doing the sales before Origin existed and will likely continue long after Origin dies because it gets them a crapload of business and revenue that wouldn't likely get otherwise. Origin, on the other hand, is only doing it (they've had sales before, I believe) because Steam is and they're successful with it. I say this because when Origin first started they practically laughed at Steam sales and said they would never sell games at a discount like that since it "cheapens IP"s.

The issue here is that EA is to Valve what Walmart is to your local grocery store. The difference is that the grocery store has something to hold over Walmart's head now and Walmart's trying to do it too and is failing. Origin has issues with Friends lists as you've seen a lot on this board (Steam doesn't). The offline mode on Steam only needs to be online when you first set it up then you can play offline whenever (See: https://support.stea...=3160-agcb-2555). Add that to the Steam Workshop for compatible games, the community section of Steam for almost all games, and just the general feeling that Valve isn't running Steam just to steal money out of your pockets and you can see why somebody would think Steam is better than Origin. Origin is a cheap way for EA to jump into what it sees as popular. It saw the success of Steam and wanted a piece of it. That's really all there is to it.