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[DarkSpiral]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Well, people even dispute that it was a blight.

While some of my contemporaries dispute whether the Fifth Blight was a true Blight or merely a large darkspawn resurgence, historians agree that it began in the swamps of the Korcari Wilds on the southeastern border of Ferelden in the year 9:30 Dragon.

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 I'm fairly sure you're tounge-in-cheek with that statement, but what the heck:
 
The Grey Wardens don't, and they're basically the final authority.  Hearing the Archdemon, and all that.
The people in Denerim at the time probably don't.  Seeing the Archdemon flying around over their heads, and all that.

[Herr Uhl]

DarkSpiral wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Well, people even dispute that it was a blight.

While some of my contemporaries dispute whether the Fifth Blight was a true Blight or merely a large darkspawn resurgence, historians agree that it began in the swamps of the Korcari Wilds on the southeastern border of Ferelden in the year 9:30 Dragon.

Source

 I'm fairly sure you're tounge-in-cheek with that statement, but what the heck:
 
The Grey Wardens don't, and they're basically the final authority.  Hearing the Archdemon, and all that.
The people in Denerim at the time probably don't.  Seeing the Archdemon flying around over their heads, and all that.

The statement is not tounge in cheek. In game people dispute that it was a blight. And it was nowhere close to any previous blight in scope or devestation.

Whether this is because your warden is super special awesome or the blight was weaker, I don't know.

[DarkSpiral]

Herr Uhl wrote...


The statement is not tounge in cheek. In game people dispute that it was a blight. And it was nowhere close to any previous blight in scope or devestation.

Whether this is because your warden is super special awesome or the blight was weaker, I don't know.

Fair enough.  Personally, I think Flemeth may have had something to do with it.  If there is a Grand Chessmaster in Thedas, its her.  Seems to me she helped move the pieces so they would all be in the right place at the right time.

Although...we know little (nothing?) about how the other four Blights began, or progressed.  It would be really interesting to hear some tangible information on, say, the Fourth Blight.  It could help put the events of the Fifth Blight in perspective.

[Aolbain]

Nizaris1, The dalish and Orzammar are independent entities.Thats the goddamn point with the dalish, they have no country.
That does not mean that Ferelden is mono-cultured. The city elves and surface dwarf that,live in Ferelden could be counted as subjects of the Ferelden crown. But to tie in to the point that I believe you were trying to make, these groups exist in every other country as well and does not make Ferelden "special".

[Herr Uhl]

DarkSpiral wrote...

Although...we know little (nothing?) about how the other four Blights began, or progressed.  It would be really interesting to hear some tangible information on, say, the Fourth Blight.  It could help put the events of the Fifth Blight in perspective.

A general rule is that they surface in a military weak area to amass an army. And most other blights surfaced in more than one place (which suggests this one was weaker). The Fourth blight began in between Orlais and Tevinter where it was squashed, so it surfaced around Antiva instead.

The main difference is the involvement of the Architect (he tainted Urthemiel). So I assume that is why the fifth blight was kind of weak in comparison.

[Urzon]

The Archdemon said, in the Darkspawn Chronicles, that the Architect's experiments weakened it. Though, that statment is wishy-washy as best canon wise, since that DLC isn't canon for obvious reasons. It could be argued that since the experiments happened before the canon went into AU DLC, that the same experiments happened in the our Warden's timeline.

But like i said, wishy-washy arguements at best.

[Heimdall]

Is Nizaris still going at it? Well, at least he/she has tenacity, I'll say that much, like a brick wall.

[Heimdall]

As for the Architect making the Blight weaker:

Could it be that the Darkspawn simply weren't as organized this time around? I mean most of the time the old gods call to the Darkspawn and they swarm and dig until they strike dragon. Then the dragon gets tainted. If the Architect managed to find Urthemiel first, they Darkspawn may simply have been more scattered than usual, leading to fewer numbers when they hit the surface.

Alternatively, the Blight was weak because we were facing off with the drag queen of the Old Gods:P

Modifié par Lord Aesir, 07 décembre 2012 - 01:47 .

[In Exile]

DarkSpiral wrote...
Although...we know little (nothing?) about how the other four Blights began, or progressed.  It would be really interesting to hear some tangible information on, say, the Fourth Blight.  It could help put the events of the Fifth Blight in perspective.

We know the 4th Blight last close to 20 years, I believe, and that Garahel fought it for a very long time before ending it and become a legend. Part of why people want to call BS on the 5th is just how ridiculously fast it ended.

[Rpgfantasyplayer]

I think the only reason the 5th blight was so short was because it was a game and your warden could only live so long.  Meaning that if you were to be the one to kill the Archdemon, then this blight would have to be shorter than all other blights that came before it.

Modifié par Rpgfantasyplayer, 07 décembre 2012 - 03:52 .

[Heimdall]

Rpgfantasyplayer wrote...

I think the only reason the 5th blight was so short was because it was a game and your warden could only live so long.  Meaning that if you were to be the one to kill the Archdemon, then this blight would have to be shorter than all other blights that came before it.

That's the reason for the design decision, yeah, but we're just speculating on in universe reasons.

[aTrueFool]

hhh89 wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...


That information about Gwaren is false though.  I have never seen anywhere.  It could be the biggest port in Ferelden but the entire Waking Sea?  I doubt it.

It's not even the biggest port in Ferelden. Amaranthine is.

I'd like to point out that Gwaren isn't in the Waking Sea. It's on the coast of the Amaranthine Ocean.

[Rpgfantasyplayer]

Lord Aesir wrote...

Rpgfantasyplayer wrote...

I think the only reason the 5th blight was so short was because it was a game and your warden could only live so long.  Meaning that if you were to be the one to kill the Archdemon, then this blight would have to be shorter than all other blights that came before it.

That's the reason for the design decision, yeah, but we're just speculating on in universe reasons.

Well, there was kind of a heads up about the blight coming.  King Meric kind of had a heads up from Flemeth.

[upsettingshorts]

Is this thread still relevant?

[AlexanderCousland]

@aTrueFool

Gwaren port leads to the Waking Sea. That's how Hawke got to Kirkwall. From Gwaren across the Waking Sea. Amaranthine is near the Amaranthine Ocean.

I wish people would stop giving out Mis-information.

[AlexanderCousland]

By the ****** of my Ancestors!!!!


mall Blight, Big Blight.

A Blight is a Blight. You saw the Archdemon yourself, Riordan and other Wardens from across the borders knew it. I really dont give two nug livers about what some foreigner who wasnt there has to say.

And the Darkspawn really are relevant. Remember, Disciples are free thinking darkspawn who can command small hordes. a disciple and a small group could certainly show themselves. Some sort of side-quest or random encounter.

[Herr Uhl]

FreshIstay wrote...

@aTrueFool

Gwaren port leads to the Waking Sea. That's how Hawke got to Kirkwall. From Gwaren across the Waking Sea. Amaranthine is near the Amaranthine Ocean.

I wish people would stop giving out Mis-information.

Look at this map.


The red arrow is Gwaren and the yellow one is Amaranthine. How is Gwaren towards the Waking Sea?

[Dorrieb]

David Gaider wrote...
DA was never planned as a single story arc or a trilogy on a single subject-- that was Mass Effect. We've never, ever stated this about DA. In fact, we've said the opposite. If that's what you want anyway, then good on ya... but that's not what we're doing.

Put it like this then: You're shifting the focus of the story away from where it started and onto a different aspect of the setting, seemingly abandoning many threads left hanging. Judgment will be reserved until we know what is what, but there is already an obstacle to be surmounted in asking the audience to shift their interest away from where it was and onto something else.

[Hurbster]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Hurbster wrote...

It's difficult to take the darkspawn seriously after their redesign in DA2.

It was difficult to take them seriously when they looked like zombie mud orcs.

Because that's what they looked like after the redesign, right ?

[AlexanderCousland]

@Herr Uhl

I am wrong. You are right.


"It seems that I am at a disadvantage" - Arl Rendorn Howe

[Heimdall]

@Herr Uhl Wow, Hawke really took the long way around.

[Aolbain]

Lord Aesir wrote...

@Herr Uhl Wow, Hawke really took the long way around.

Not really, seams to be the same distance to both the waking see and the Amaranthine ocean from Lothering.

[Heimdall]

Aolbain wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

@Herr Uhl Wow, Hawke really took the long way around.

Not really, seams to be the same distance to both the waking see and the Amaranthine ocean from Lothering.

But a much longer sea route.  If they'd gone north the sea journey would have been much shorter.

[aTrueFool]

FreshIstay wrote...

@Herr Uhl

I am wrong. You are right.


"It seems that I am at a disadvantage" - Arl Rendorn Howe

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