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[henkez3]

Nizaris1 wrote...

I cannot say Darkspawn and the Blight is "just a part of it", it is the whole part in DA:O, the rest are just a part of it.

Bioware can make Templar vs Mage war, Tevinter vs Qunari and so on, but just a part of it, the main theme on each DA game must be Grey Warden and the Blight

Star Wars is succesful because it is always Jedi vs Sith on every episode, games, comic and story books. There is a movie about Ewoks but "just a part of it" and not have the same weight as Star Wars

The talking darkspawn in Awakening is a good start, but they end it there....why not making Darkspawn no longer mindless, and they have their own empire, culture, social and religion...giving a new breath of a mortal enemy of Grey Warden and mankind. making Archdemon a half dragon half human like Flemeth and so on

I don't fully disagree with you. DA:A had the most interesting plot of all the DA-games so far imo. I also would like to see the Grey Wardens and Darkspawn play some role in future DA installments. But I really would not like it to be the focus of every game, that would do a disservice to the entire world that BioWare has built.

[SpunkyMonkey]

Nizaris1 wrote...

Why not making Darkspawn become intelligent and organized, they secretly gain allies from human, dwarves and elves, corrupting people. races become pawns of Archdemon willingly sacrifice women of their race becoming Broodmothers and they gain power in politic, magic or something, or they are ensure of safety from Archdemon when the Blight happen

The story arc about Darkspawn can be evolved into more interesting than just to end it and making other conflict as the main story

That sounds like a far more interesting story than the mage vs templar one, and one I would like to see.

[Nashimura]

Its not like the Mage/Templar conflict was never touched on in DA:O, there is just more important things going on.

[upsettingshorts]

I cannot imagine a story based upon monsters that could come anywhere close to being as interesting as a conflict based in human interest.

There are probably exceptions.  Dragon Age, so far, is not one of them.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 27 novembre 2012 - 12:49 .

[Navasha]

The darkspawn threat was a great epic event that drew people into the world. However, I don't want a constant flow of great epic world ending events myself. The Templar/Mage conflict is a nice change of pace, since its just a war, even if large in scope.

Its nice to see a world that isn't just a one-trick pony. Other things are happening across the globe. It makes the place seem like a much more vibrant living world that one that is just always being invaded by darkspawn.

Hopefully DA4 will go off in a completely new and unrelated storyline to bring even more richness to the world.

[Herr Uhl]

SpunkyMonkey wrote...

Nizaris1 wrote...

Why not making Darkspawn become intelligent and organized, they secretly gain allies from human, dwarves and elves, corrupting people. races become pawns of Archdemon willingly sacrifice women of their race becoming Broodmothers and they gain power in politic, magic or something, or they are ensure of safety from Archdemon when the Blight happen

The story arc about Darkspawn can be evolved into more interesting than just to end it and making other conflict as the main story

That sounds like a far more interesting story than the mage vs templar one, and one I would like to see.

Ever read lord of the rings?

[SpunkyMonkey]

Herr Uhl wrote...

SpunkyMonkey wrote...

Nizaris1 wrote...

Why not making Darkspawn become intelligent and organized, they secretly gain allies from human, dwarves and elves, corrupting people. races become pawns of Archdemon willingly sacrifice women of their race becoming Broodmothers and they gain power in politic, magic or something, or they are ensure of safety from Archdemon when the Blight happen

The story arc about Darkspawn can be evolved into more interesting than just to end it and making other conflict as the main story

That sounds like a far more interesting story than the mage vs templar one, and one I would like to see.

Ever read lord of the rings?

No actually lol.

[agrael92]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

I cannot imagine a story based upon monsters that could come anywhere close to being as interesting as a conflict based in human interest.

There are probably exceptions.  Dragon Age, so far, is not one of them.

Not necessary true, but it has been true in DA so far. I'd like the story to stick with templars-mages conflict or some other political conflict for the next game, hopefully with a nice background of discoveries, about darkspawn or particularly cool soprannatural events of the past, in the meantime. Then we can get another epic grand-scale conflict, with darkspawn and monsters, in DA4.

[Allan Schumacher]

I cannot say Darkspawn and the Blight is "just a part of it", it is the whole part in DA:O, the rest are just a part of it.

This is a contradictory statement. There is a lot going on in DAO. The Blight serves as a reason for you to go to all these different settings to experience them. Blights are not regularly occurring events.

Modifié par Allan Schumacher, 27 novembre 2012 - 04:47 .

[DanIsNotVegan]

It has been said a few times that DA is the story of Thedas, so to me it only seems logical that the theme of each game changes. I also find the mage-templar conflict very interesting, since it isn't as black and white as the darkspawn invasion.

[esper]

agrael92 wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

I cannot imagine a story based upon monsters that could come anywhere close to being as interesting as a conflict based in human interest.

There are probably exceptions.  Dragon Age, so far, is not one of them.

Not necessary true, but it has been true in DA so far. I'd like the story to stick with templars-mages conflict or some other political conflict for the next game, hopefully with a nice background of discoveries, about darkspawn or particularly cool soprannatural events of the past, in the meantime. Then we can get another epic grand-scale conflict, with darkspawn and monsters, in DA4.

I would like to go to Antiva myself. A society where assassin more or less holds the power sounds like a good recipice for a fun game.

Darkspawn can stay in their Deep Roads, they bore me.

Modifié par esper, 27 novembre 2012 - 05:08 .

[Dragoonlordz]

I do think the repercussions of the Architect choice need to be explored much more than what has been in past. The darkspawn should be present and as someone who actually thinks the deeps roads are very interesting and should be also explored much more (was explained in DAO that there are deep roads not only in Ferelden but also places like Free Marches etc...) then there should be a part in the game which allows the player to explore them more imho else is wasted opportunity even if not part of the main plot, using a subplot reason would be good enough. If there is a Warden companion as was suggested could be then that alone is reason enough to explore the darkspawn and deep roads more.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 27 novembre 2012 - 05:26 .

[Helena Tylena]

Actually, each of the four main places you go to (Redcliffe, Tower of Magi, Brecillian Forest and Orzammar), the stories there have very little to do with the Blight. You encounter Darkspawn in the Deep Roads because that's where they always are, but beyond that, the Blight really is just string to tie everything together.

[Herr Uhl]

Nizaris1 wrote...

Archdemon is suppose to be intelligent, not just a dragon going on rampage.

According to what?

Nizaris1 wrote...

And where do darspawn armor, weaponry and balista come from? They have technology, have social class, why should they be mindless? To make weapons and armor, they need ore, to get ore, they need mines...therefore they have all the knowledge similar to human.

No. They have ghouls for that.

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 27 novembre 2012 - 06:07 .

[Helena Tylena]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Nizaris1 wrote...

Archdemon is suppose to be intelligent, not just a dragon going on rampage.

According to what?

Ever played Darkspawn Chronicles?

[Herr Uhl]

Helena Tylena wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Nizaris1 wrote...

Archdemon is suppose to be intelligent, not just a dragon going on rampage.

According to what?

Ever played Darkspawn Chronicles?

According to that Herren is a Desire Demon. I don't take it on face value.

[Dabrikishaw]

Unless Corpy or the Architect are relevant, I don't see the Darkspawn as a whole as being so.

[Dragoonlordz]

Dabrikishaw wrote...

Unless Corpy or the Architect are relevant, I don't see the Darkspawn as a whole as being so.

If what they said was true that a Warden may well be a companion then given the lives of Wardens are so intrinsically linked to the darkspawn and the deep roads, that alone makes them relevant as a potential subplot.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 27 novembre 2012 - 06:51 .

[Melca36]

Taint Master wrote...

As the DA series moves forward, these guys seem less and less important in the grand scheme of things.  Granted, there's only so much you can do with "mindless" zombie-mutants as antagonists, but with DA:A and the Architect I thought there were more interesting developments ahead for these guys.

Are Darkspawn, and accordingly Grey Wardens, going to be left as background characters from here on out?

David Gaider once said Grey Wardens and darkspawn would ALWAYS have a presence in the games.

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

We know next to nothing about the upcoming game or any planned story DLC for it. I doubt the Darkspawn are going to be completely irrelevant for the rest of the series, although unless the Awakened become major players in some way or another Blight starts, I don't think they'll be central to the plot of Inquisition.