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TIM is indoctrinated, so he's not powerful at all.... sad really, I had high hopes for that human being..of sorts.

  he is much more powerful than even the council in terms of ability to get things done.  And yes he was indoctrinated, what's your pont? He still opposed the Reapers throughout ME3.


No, can't do both, he's gone, left years ago, just tried to USE Shep to gain on his self delusions, feeding his indoctrination. Self 'unmade' man, as it were...


edit: I had hoped that the indoctrinated man would come above the control trip, but it's just too much to ask someone who's not really themselves. Addicted to power...etc Not the human race at all. Kind of like those Leviathan, only different.

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Wayning_Star wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

TIM is indoctrinated, so he's not powerful at all.... sad really, I had high hopes for that human being..of sorts.

  he is much more powerful than even the council in terms of ability to get things done.  And yes he was indoctrinated, what's your pont? He still opposed the Reapers throughout ME3.


No, can't do both, he's gone, left years ago, just tried to USE Shep to gain on his self delusions, feeding his indoctrination. Self 'unmade' man, as it were...

. And we're done here....<_<

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Wayning_Star wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

TIM is indoctrinated, so he's not powerful at all.... sad really, I had high hopes for that human being..of sorts.

  he is much more powerful than even the council in terms of ability to get things done.  And yes he was indoctrinated, what's your pont? He still opposed the Reapers throughout ME3.


No, can't do both, he's gone, left years ago, just tried to USE Shep to gain on his self delusions, feeding his indoctrination. Self 'unmade' man, as it were...

He was not fully indoctrinated till well into ME3.

Added, if you think about it,the only way to beat the reapers is to turn the galxy into a war machine. Ifthe war last longer, you would of seen the alliance do thesame thing he did.

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Steelcan wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

TIM is indoctrinated, so he's not powerful at all.... sad really, I had high hopes for that human being..of sorts.

  he is much more powerful than even the council in terms of ability to get things done.  And yes he was indoctrinated, what's your pont? He still opposed the Reapers throughout ME3.


No, can't do both, he's gone, left years ago, just tried to USE Shep to gain on his self delusions, feeding his indoctrination. Self 'unmade' man, as it were...

. And we're done here....<_<


and to quote a phrase: It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere - Voltaire

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dreman9999 wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

TIM is indoctrinated, so he's not powerful at all.... sad really, I had high hopes for that human being..of sorts.

  he is much more powerful than even the council in terms of ability to get things done.  And yes he was indoctrinated, what's your pont? He still opposed the Reapers throughout ME3.


No, can't do both, he's gone, left years ago, just tried to USE Shep to gain on his self delusions, feeding his indoctrination. Self 'unmade' man, as it were...

He was not fully indoctrinated till well into ME3.

Added, if you think about it,the only way to beat the reapers is to turn the galxy into a war machine. Ifthe war last longer, you would of seen the alliance do thesame thing he did.


Nah, the alliance was plum crazy..ready to set off a cosmic energy weapon they had absolutely NO clues as to what it were to do for them.... they didn't have time to become indoctrinated, TIM went out of his way to do so, he actually thought(well,not him exactly) that he could overcome his addiction/self indoctrination, turn it on the reapers. Considering that they were ONLY ships,not controlling parties, it was a no brainer..actually. That's just how deep into his ego he has succumbed.. His eye was on the prize, he just handily forgot what the hell that was...Lackey pitfall I spose,eh?

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Wayning_Star wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...
TIM is indoctrinated, so he's not powerful at all.... sad really, I had high hopes for that human being..of sorts.

  he is much more powerful than even the council in terms of ability to get things done.  And yes he was indoctrinated, what's your pont? He still opposed the Reapers throughout ME3.

No, can't do both, he's gone, left years ago, just tried to USE Shep to gain on his self delusions, feeding his indoctrination. Self 'unmade' man, as it were...

. And we're done here....<_<

and to quote a phrase: It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere - Voltaire

you don't make any sense. At all

Modifié par Steelcan, 26 novembre 2012 - 07:16 .


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Oh look, people complaining about things they don't even know.

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Oh look, a clever cnut

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Wayning_Star wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

TIM is indoctrinated, so he's not powerful at all.... sad really, I had high hopes for that human being..of sorts.

  he is much more powerful than even the council in terms of ability to get things done.  And yes he was indoctrinated, what's your pont? He still opposed the Reapers throughout ME3.


No, can't do both, he's gone, left years ago, just tried to USE Shep to gain on his self delusions, feeding his indoctrination. Self 'unmade' man, as it were...

He was not fully indoctrinated till well into ME3.

Added, if you think about it,the only way to beat the reapers is to turn the galxy into a war machine. Ifthe war last longer, you would of seen the alliance do thesame thing he did.


Nah, the alliance was plum crazy..ready to set off a cosmic energy weapon they had absolutely NO clues as to what it were to do for them.... they didn't have time to become indoctrinated, TIM went out of his way to do so, he actually thought(well,not him exactly) that he could overcome his addiction/self indoctrination, turn it on the reapers. Considering that they were ONLY ships,not controlling parties, it was a no brainer..actually. That's just how deep into his ego he has succumbed.. His eye was on the prize, he just handily forgot what the hell that was...Lackey pitfall I spose,eh?

1. He almost did. Why do you think the reaper attacked cerberus horizon base?

2.No he did not go out of his way. Your missing the cause. It's not the surgery he took. It's because of the remains of the proto reaper. The proto reaperis what  started  his down fall to full indoctrination.

Modifié par dreman9999, 26 novembre 2012 - 07:29 .


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Steelcan wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...
TIM is indoctrinated, so he's not powerful at all.... sad really, I had high hopes for that human being..of sorts.

  he is much more powerful than even the council in terms of ability to get things done.  And yes he was indoctrinated, what's your pont? He still opposed the Reapers throughout ME3.

No, can't do both, he's gone, left years ago, just tried to USE Shep to gain on his self delusions, feeding his indoctrination. Self 'unmade' man, as it were...

. And we're done here....<_<

and to quote a phrase: It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere - Voltaire

you don't make any sense. At all


TIM liked the idea of being indoctrinated. Simple really. He was always worried about TIM before all else. Totally selfish. Lost all redeeming qualities. He never EVER served Shep/Alliance or humanity...ever. Only the incoctrinated man. So, he was self indoctrinated way before the catalyst and freinds got their hooks into him.

This is mostly hind sight tho..as I 'kind of' trusted TIM earlier, only to figure it out later. I figured that he was a human, so it were wise to trust him to be so, but he lost it way before ME3 storylines fell across our paths..so I could never really trust that guy, ever. Aria made more sense, as she admitted to her nature, to a point beyond TIM. Im only wondering IF she'll survive this next DLC, as the leader of that pack against her/Shep are not exactly TIMs buddies,either. Just a theory tho. ;^]

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Savage Baird wrote...

Was I the only one who played Shadow Broker? If my memory serves me right, it had no affect on ME2 at all. So what's with all the "no point because Cerberus gets destroyed anyways."?

That's because back when Shadow Broker was released we had no idea how it would affect the series going forward. Few expected it to actually change the story of ME2, but, it could have turned out to be vital to the story of ME3. When ME 3 rolled around and we found out that it actually did nothing to change the story there was some backlash, however it was definitely overshadowed by the more obvious ME3 endings scandal. As for ME3's DLC, we already know that it won't affect the story, so there's less love for them in general than previous DLC's.

For Shadow Broker, we THOUGHT it would affect ME3's story, that's one of the reasons why it was so well recieved. It was fun, delved into the lore, and most importantly, was seemingly going to make a difference to the rest of the series.

Modifié par Dusen, 26 novembre 2012 - 07:28 .


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majormajormmajor wrote...

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Anybody else roll, their eyes when Shepard said that TIM had met his match with Aria?


Only f*cks with an inflated opinion of TIM would. Cerberus-loving f*cks who lick his shaft and balls.


***** please.
The hairs on the back of my head stood up when I heard Shepard say that, overall this trailer looked boring and predictable.
However unlike earth we may actually take it back.

TIM deserved more than what he got.

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I rest my case.

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Well, about time we get see a female Turian. Anyway, let me now when somebody uploads the dlc to youtube.

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dreman9999 wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

TIM is indoctrinated, so he's not powerful at all.... sad really, I had high hopes for that human being..of sorts.

  he is much more powerful than even the council in terms of ability to get things done.  And yes he was indoctrinated, what's your pont? He still opposed the Reapers throughout ME3.


No, can't do both, he's gone, left years ago, just tried to USE Shep to gain on his self delusions, feeding his indoctrination. Self 'unmade' man, as it were...

He was not fully indoctrinated till well into ME3.

Added, if you think about it,the only way to beat the reapers is to turn the galxy into a war machine. Ifthe war last longer, you would of seen the alliance do thesame thing he did.


Nah, the alliance was plum crazy..ready to set off a cosmic energy weapon they had absolutely NO clues as to what it were to do for them.... they didn't have time to become indoctrinated, TIM went out of his way to do so, he actually thought(well,not him exactly) that he could overcome his addiction/self indoctrination, turn it on the reapers. Considering that they were ONLY ships,not controlling parties, it was a no brainer..actually. That's just how deep into his ego he has succumbed.. His eye was on the prize, he just handily forgot what the hell that was...Lackey pitfall I spose,eh?

1. He almost did. Why do you think the reaper attacked cerberus horizon base?

2.No he did not go out ofhis way. Your missing the cause. It not the surgery he took. It's because of the remains of the proto reaper. The proto reaperis what  started  his down fall to full indoctrination.




Who knows why the catlyst sent reaperships there? He/it isn't talking.. With TIM, you just never quite know what the illusive man is doing and why. Why did they send the collectors to kill Shep, when they were apparently indoctrinated, then supply TIM with the ingenious fountain of youth tech to resurrect Shep later?!?

I'm merely stating that TIM was stuck on stupid from jump. Always needing to 'set in his chair' and judge the MEU like a catalyst program. He loved his job.. a little too much?Posted Image

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Now what's this?

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Dare I say it...

Batarian female?

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mauro2222 wrote...

Well, about time we get see a female Turian. Anyway, let me now when somebody uploads the dlc to youtube.


yeah, I promised myself I wouldn't go scope out youtube walkthroughs.... anymore. But 15$$.. I dunno..crap!!Posted Image

edit: I was hoping for an uncased Quarian myself.

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Impossible, we all know that batarian females wear skin-tight fashionable dresses.

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My avatar appropriately describes my level of excitement for this DLC.

Nyreen better damn be worth the 15 bucks.

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Eterna5 wrote...

Oh look, people complaining about things they don't even know.



yeah, canon endings sucks..lol

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About time.

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AWESOME CAN'T WAIT :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

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Wayning_Star wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

TIM is indoctrinated, so he's not powerful at all.... sad really, I had high hopes for that human being..of sorts.

  he is much more powerful than even the council in terms of ability to get things done.  And yes he was indoctrinated, what's your pont? He still opposed the Reapers throughout ME3.


No, can't do both, he's gone, left years ago, just tried to USE Shep to gain on his self delusions, feeding his indoctrination. Self 'unmade' man, as it were...

He was not fully indoctrinated till well into ME3.

Added, if you think about it,the only way to beat the reapers is to turn the galxy into a war machine. Ifthe war last longer, you would of seen the alliance do thesame thing he did.


Nah, the alliance was plum crazy..ready to set off a cosmic energy weapon they had absolutely NO clues as to what it were to do for them.... they didn't have time to become indoctrinated, TIM went out of his way to do so, he actually thought(well,not him exactly) that he could overcome his addiction/self indoctrination, turn it on the reapers. Considering that they were ONLY ships,not controlling parties, it was a no brainer..actually. That's just how deep into his ego he has succumbed.. His eye was on the prize, he just handily forgot what the hell that was...Lackey pitfall I spose,eh?

1. He almost did. Why do you think the reaper attacked cerberus horizon base?

2.No he did not go out ofhis way. Your missing the cause. It not the surgery he took. It's because of the remains of the proto reaper. The proto reaperis what  started  his down fall to full indoctrination.




Who knows why the catlyst sent reaperships there? He/it isn't talking.. With TIM, you just never quite know what the illusive man is doing and why. Why did they send the collectors to kill Shep, when they were apparently indoctrinated, then supply TIM with the ingenious fountain of youth tech to resurrect Shep later?!?

I'm merely stating that TIM was stuck on stupid from jump. Always needing to 'set in his chair' and judge the MEU like a catalyst program. He loved his job.. a little too much?Posted Image

1. Your saying that cerberus finding out how to control the reaper is not a conserned. Indoctriantion is not puppetry. It a change of a persons thinking. Even then it can't fully control a person untill it's final stage.
Add, teh collecter wanted to capture Shepard, and retake his body to make Shepard a Reaper agent.

2.You don't see that TIM ,Saran and the Catalyst were symbles for the flaws of controling.

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Can someone explain why Shepard suddenly thinks that saving pirates and slavers is a good idea, let alone a moral one he'd support just to stick his middle finger up at TIM? How exactly can they help against the Reapers more than, say, the other half dozen fleets he's picked up? What if your Shepard was raised on Mindoir and had his parents get killed by slavers? Or if Shepard took part in the Skyllian Blitz against slavers, crime bosses and warlords? Quality writing would ensure that Shepard would be somewhat conflicted about this if that was his background, right? He's got to have some kind of prejudice against these people... What about all those side missions in ME1 and 2 where you fight slavers and ****?

Why does Shepard think helping these people is a good idea? Will they all suddenly become nice slavers who reject their ways?

Someone, please... explain...

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Ar7emis wrote...

Can someone explain why Shepard suddenly thinks that saving pirates and slavers is a good idea, let alone a moral one he'd support just to stick his middle finger up at TIM? How exactly can they help against the Reapers more than, say, the other half dozen fleets he's picked up? What if your Shepard was raised on Mindoir and had his parents get killed by slavers? Or if Shepard took part in the Skyllian Blitz against slavers, crime bosses and warlords? Quality writing would ensure that Shepard would be somewhat conflicted about this if that was his background, right? He's got to have some kind of prejudice against these people... What about all those side missions in ME1 and 2 where you fight slavers and ****?

Why does Shepard think helping these people is a good idea? Will they all suddenly become nice slavers who reject their ways?

Someone, please... explain...

Outside of getting more people and resources for the war and taking resources form a group who is trying to slow the gelaxy down?

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Ar7emis wrote...

Can someone explain why Shepard suddenly thinks that saving pirates and slavers is a good idea, let alone a moral one he'd support just to stick his middle finger up at TIM? How exactly can they help against the Reapers more than, say, the other half dozen fleets he's picked up? What if your Shepard was raised on Mindoir and had his parents get killed by slavers? Or if Shepard took part in the Skyllian Blitz against slavers, crime bosses and warlords? Quality writing would ensure that Shepard would be somewhat conflicted about this if that was his background, right? He's got to have some kind of prejudice against these people... What about all those side missions in ME1 and 2 where you fight slavers and ****?

Why does Shepard think helping these people is a good idea? Will they all suddenly become nice slavers who reject their ways?

Someone, please... explain...


slavers would probably be more against being slaves themselves than not? But, I think this DLC is about sticking TIM with a power prod, as they 'take' the base away from cerberus, but then, we don't really know if cerberus/TIM is actually the one behind the take over? Maybe we get a new'n improved illusive man? As the old one has pretty much went to the other side, inadertantly.

There is a certain mystery surrounding Aria that most wants to know who she really is, and why Omega is important at all to the Alliance. As you say, why bother? Some thing is afoot, it appears...